Are Tariffs A Good Idea?

The EU proposed eliminating all tariffs on cars in 2018 but Trump balked because he thought it was unfair since Europe makes better and more expensive cars than us.
The EU would have taken a chunk of the light truck market....

But yes, that is typical Trump...

I have an idea... Next week Micheal Martin the Prime Minister of Ireland is meeting Trump for St. Patricks Day... Annual tradition...

I think Micheal should sit down and give a big smile and tell him we have a great idea... Let's have 25% tariff on each other's goods coming into our countries.. Think of the money we could raise, EU could use it for paying for the war...
We think China want it as well...
It would be Great!!! Best idea ever!!!
 
Changed my mind...

No matter what happens, they are going to claim they won, and anyone that says anything else suffers from TDS/Trump hater and thus hates America..
They'll try to blame anyone else if there is downturn, certainly.

The problem is, it looks like most folks see the absolute chaos of the last few weeks. That can't be pushed off to "the other guys".
 
No you haven't. This is unprecendented. One thing that neither consumers nor markets will abide is uncertainty, and we haven't seen this size and intensity of uncertainty since WWII. And yeah, it's all deliberate.

I'm holding out hope that there is some kind of master economic plan afoot, but I admit to often overestimating people. It could be that they think we will have fully recovered from this shock to the system by the time the mid terms roll around, I don't know.

But as I always say, nothing illustrates the Dunning-Kruger Effect more vividly than a Trumpster trying to lecture people on economics. And I'm not seeing anything in the way of forethought or planning from our co-Presidents.
Joe promised to unify us. The worst lie of the Progressive Socialist Party. This one hurt. Asit set Joe's4 year term when he showed anti-Christian traits and even seemed to agree to put millions and millions of deplorables into camps. Only a person on the cusp of dictatorship can do this. Calling their election into power Democracy. So sweet and nice.
 
How are they not? Their economy is FAR more dependent on trade with the US than the US is dependent on trade with them! Trump is playing hard ball and Pierre Trudeau is playing T ball! Canada has no choice, Zinc. They will blink. Just like Mexico. Just like Columbia.
I hear Japan is getting Canadian oil and gas, China was bidding hard...


Europe better get a move on... There is a sale on Canadian and Mexican oil

Big thanks to Trump and US for that....
 
Gee, you think!? This is what democrats and the left were screaming at for months before the election. A blanket universal tariff is just dumb, dumber and dumbest. It should come as no surprise that Trump thought of it. Now we're going to get hit by tariffs from Mexico and Canada as well.
well wait, does it affect the consumer or the manufacturer in the other country? Which is it?
 
How are they not? Their economy is FAR more dependent on trade with the US than the US is dependent on trade with them! Trump is playing hard ball and Pierre Trudeau is playing T ball! Canada has no choice, Zinc. They will blink. Just like Mexico. Just like Columbia.
By blink what are they going to do exactly?

Mexico just announced 25% tariffs in response.
 
I hear Japan is getting Canadian oil and gas, China was bidding hard...


Europe better get a move on... There is a sale on Canadian and Mexican oil

Big thanks to Trump and US for that....
Canada can also build the Keystone Pipeline, but West to export directly to China.
 
Tariffs on $20.7 billion worth of goods will take effect immediately, while tariffs on the remaining $86.3 billion in U.S. products will begin in 21 days, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in a statement late Monday. They will remain until the U.S. trade action is withdrawn, he said.

“Because of the tariffs imposed by the U.S., Americans will pay more for groceries, gas and cars, and potentially lose thousands of jobs,” Trudeau said. “Tariffs will disrupt an incredibly successful trading relationship. They will violate the very trade agreement that was negotiated by President Trump in his last term.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped about 800 points, or 1.8%. The S&P 500 fell 2.1% and was set for its worst day of the year. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite slid 3%, weighed down by a separate issue affecting Nvidia, which was already down more than 9%.

In Canada, meanwhile, retaliation against U.S. tariffs could also extend to its individual provinces. Ontario Premier Doug Ford told NBC’s “Meet the Press NOW” on Monday that Canada would “respond like they’ve never seen before.”

He said he was prepared to retaliate by cutting off the transmission of electricity from his province to the U.S. as well as shipments of nickel, which “will shut down manufacturing because 50% of the nickel you use is coming out of Ontario.”


It’s Deja vu all over again. He may even beat Hoover this time.
The American economy reminds me of a guy who abuses his body by over eating for decades, becomes the size of a house at about 800 pounds, with all the various health issues related to not eating right or exercising, with blood vessels clogged to the brim, awaiting a massive heart attack, and then walking into Dr. Trump's office and screaming, "Fix me!!!"

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They'll try to blame anyone else if there is downturn, certainly.

The problem is, it looks like most folks see the absolute chaos of the last few weeks. That can't be pushed off to "the other guys".
They have their own Media Bubble and an exclusive audience...

Let's not underestimate repeating the lie...

They still push that Trump is better than Harris and will keep doing that... They will beat it into their tribe that you had no choice, you had to vote for Trump... Even if Trump screws up, it could have been worse....

Democrats have to change that narrative...
My suggestion would be to run a shadow cabinet... Have a shadow Sec of State, Shadow Transport Sec... Education, Finance....

These guys have a leader (in Europe we call them Ministers) and a one to three team members (Congress or Senate) (junior ministers)... (There are super juniors as well).

So if there is a foreign issue like Friday, the Dems send their foreign team (Sec of State with juniors) on to the airwaves, Fox News, ABC, CNN..... As many conservatives as possible.... They sing from the one sheet set by the shadow secretary of state and hit everything. This is their speciality, this is their patch and they spend all day at it, they might be on a committee or the Juniors there. But their job is to get into the houses of middle America and explain what this administration is doing and how it is hurting you...
This is about discipline and hitting the same message together in that one news cycle...
 
By blink what are they going to do exactly?

Mexico just announced 25% tariffs in response.
I hope Europe is smarter...

Just put 50% on tariffs on Red States goods...

Also hit customer end goods with 33%...

0% on Blue state non customer end goods...
 
So far, groceries have come down, gas has certainly come down.



When reality collides with democrat myth, reality wins every time.
 
I’ve never seen a president reverse a growing economy so quickly and so deliberately. Just bizarre.

The economy was only growing in the twisted intorted paper numbers generated by propagandaistic government agencies.
If it was actually growing Trump would never have been elected.
 
So far, groceries have come down, gas has certainly come down.



When reality collides with democrat myth, reality wins every time.

If the EPA goes through with its repeal of the onerous regulatory burden placed on energy producers by the Biden administration... You should see an immediate drop in grocery prices over the next 3 months and a significant one.
 
This is a lie.

President Biden left Trump a strong, growing economy with historic low unemployment.
And with all of your positive statements the Progressive Socialist Communists lost the election.
 
If the EPA goes through with its repeal of the onerous regulatory burden placed on energy producers by the Biden administration... You should see an immediate drop in grocery prices over the next 3 months and a significant one.
The drop we are seeing now is likely the result of lower transportation costs.
 
Complete bullshit. Your Orange messiah is doing all he can to ring down the country and the sytem that made this country great.

Yet Barry and *Joe want to fundamentally change America. Weird.
 
This is a lie.

President Biden left Trump a strong, growing economy with historic low unemployment.

The quality of the employment was not life sustaining. Thousands of those employment statistics were parasitic government jobs that took away from the economy not added to it.

If the economy was as bright as the Democrats said it was Trump would never have been elected.

Jo
 
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