Are knives arms?

[woodwork201]

You do not sound very informed. Nobody had any guns at the j6 event other than law enforcement, yet lefties promote the notion that j6 was an armed insurrection.

As much as it was an armed insurrection, it was a legged insurrection.

 

[Bobob]

They gave an option for changing the Constitution for changing times. If you think it needs changing then change it.

You can't eliminate the right but you could potentially get an amendment passed to authorize the government to infringe. Then the discussion will change. Today, it's that the government has no right to infringe. If that is changed the discussion would be how or whether they can enforce a ban and whether gunowners comply.

Unfortunately, it takes, I believe, two thirds of the stated to approve a change, so that won't happen. However, regulations can be enacted to control gun usage.

 

[Bobob]

You, like most on the left, misunderstand the nature of our Republic. We are a republic of sovereign states. The states agreed to team up, work together, and create a republic to help each other. Thus the militias are, in fact, state militaries to be utilized, controlled, and maintained by the governors. Congress has the power to call up the militias in times of insurrection and invasion. The militias are not the standing army and are not the National Guard or Reserves. Unless called up by Congress, the Florida militia does, in fact, answer to DeSantis within the framework of laws created by Congress designed to regulate (as in standardize) the militias across all states.

Then why does he want to enact a law that would enable a special militia that answers only to him?
No, lamb chop, I fully understand the nature of a republic.

 

[Bobob]

Many of the writings of the time discuss swords in the same terms as firearms.

And, no, you don't support gun owners' rights; you clearly only support your rights. If three guns fill all your needs or interests then that's all anyone should own? Do you have three hands or arms? Why the hell do you need 3 guns? And if you can only use one at a time, assuming that at least two of your three guns are Fudd guns, why have even more than one? I might own a thousand guns but if I can only carry one then I have guns I can't use just as you have guns you can't use. 1 extra, 2 extra, 999 extra, makes no difference. My 999 extra aren't hurting you or anyone else.

Yours may not, but obviously not the case for some gun owners. I do not question the numbers of guns owned, but I do question the type of fire arm owned. No, I support the right to own guns for you too.

 

[woodwork201]

Also, an American expressing his personal, subjective opinion – and as already correctly noted, an opinion that is meaningless, completely devoid of legal, Constitutional merit.

The Second Amendment codifies an individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to lawful self-defense – not to ‘combat’ crime, not to act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement,’ and not to ‘deter’ government tyranny.

There is nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that sanctions insurrectionist dogma, nothing that authorizes the people to engage in an act of treason by taking up arms against a lawfully elected government reflecting the will of the people – the Founding Generation did not amend the Constitution to facilitate the destruction of the Republic they had just created.

That's absolutely correct. If government becomes so tyrannical that taking up arms becomes the only choice for those who love freedom and liberty, there will not be a restoration of the Constitution, there will be an overturning of it. And that's why it is not a thing to be undertaken lightly - any more so than the revolution in 1776 was undertaken lightly. But in between defending ourselves from tyranny and overthrowing the government is a huge abyss with unpredictable situations and scenarios.

Read the Declaration of Independence. It talks about the need to endure a lot of burden and suffering before taking up arms against an existing government. We are in that stage - and have been since the day after the Constitution was ratified. And we'll likely be in that stage for many, many, years to come. But it's not certain; it's possible that government could become so tyrannical tomorrow that things change.

As toobfreak posted, though, it was the recognized intent that the people have the arms necessary to defend against their own government's tyranny.

 

[woodwork201]

Nevertheless, murder rates in places where guns are banned are generally lower then murder rates in places that have guns.

That's the stupidest statement you've made. Chicago and NYC have fewer murders than cities with guns? Mexico has fewer murders than the US?

 

[woodwork201]

Most suicide attempts without guns fail. Here.

From your own link:​

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Of more than 3.6 million suicidal acts recorded in several U.S. government databases from 2007 to 2014, only 4.8% involved firearms, reported Andrew Conner, BS, of Quinnipiac University in North Haven, Connecticut, and colleagues.​

 

[woodwork201]

If so, his approval would include strict controls. You make a statement that can't be supported.
The rule was for guns to be in the hands of militia fighting in that conflict, and you are stretching it.

It's been explained to you before that the Revolutionary War ended in 1783 and the Constitution was ratified in 1789, six years later. The bill of rights, including the 2nd Amendment, was ratified in 1791. Washington's support for the right to keep and bear arms was not related to the war.

 

[Man of Ethics]

From your own link:​

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Of more than 3.6 million suicidal acts recorded in several U.S. government databases from 2007 to 2014, only 4.8% involved firearms, reported Andrew Conner, BS, of Quinnipiac University in North Haven, Connecticut, and colleagues.​

3.6 million suicidal acts in 2007-2014 are clearly attempts. Only about 40,000 suicides per year take place in USA.

 

[Blues Man]

3.6 million suicidal acts in 2007-2014 are clearly attempts. Only about 40,000 suicides per year take place in USA.

Suicide is a choice

 

[Man of Ethics]

Suicide is a choice

Items enabling suicide like opioids and guns should be harder to obtain.

 

[progressive hunter]

Items enabling suicide like opioids and guns should be harder to obtain.

what about rooftops, bridges and cars??

 

[AZrailwhale]

Items enabling suicide like opioids and guns should be harder to obtain.

How about cars, natural gas and propane? All are popular for suffocation suicide.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If yes...is the right to carry a knife protected by the Second Amendment?

Are spoons legs?

 

[skye]

I don't know the answer to the OP's question....all I know is that in Crime Investigation....... that series that I watch in cable,....

80% of the women ....some men..... who were murdered .....were murdered with a steak knife.... you know...... taken from the kitchen drawer.

 

[g5000]

If yes...is the right to carry a knife protected by the Second Amendment?

Automatic and OTF knives are banned in about 10 states. Have these bans ever been challenged in court, do you know?

Some municipalities also ban blades over a certain length.

I have a gazillion automatics and OTFs, but they are legal in my state.

 

[g5000]

If yes...is the right to carry a knife protected by the Second Amendment?

I don't think our Founders were thinking about knives when they wrote the Second Amendment. It was probably inconceivable to them that anyone would regulate knives.

 

[g5000]

There's the "National Switchblade Act" that banned switchblades for some reason.

That Act regulates interstate commerce of automatics.

It must not be very restrictive because I have bought automatics off the web. I have not read the Act, though.

 

[g5000]

Certain guns are not necessary for gun owners to possess. For example, AR15 rifles don't belong in Bobby Joe's arsenal, in my view. Nor do machine guns.

Our God-given rights are not determined by NEED.

You don't NEED midget porn, either. But it is protected by the First Amendment.

 

[g5000]

We were at war with England and that is what the 2nd amendment was referring to when the word "militia" was used relative to gun possession. The ownership can be regulated.

Um, no. We were not at war with England when the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written.