Are Democrats in Congress running Cover for Greedy Health Insurers?

Seymour Flops

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The anger and irrationality of the Democrats during this shutdown reminds me very much of the anger and irrationality of both sides of the aisle when they questioned RFK about the COVID vaccine.

There is a lot of money at stake for the insurers:

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Notice that last paragraph in blue. If they got $35 billion for people who never made a claim, the apart from the cost of computers that processed the enrollments, that 35B was pure profit. We know that - just as with the huge profit Big Pharma made from the various COVID shots, hundreds of millions of those billions went to the very congressfolk who passed the laws allowing it.

Anyone with common sense knows that the insurance providers are not going to raise their rates by three thousand a month, nor any of the other dire predictions of the Democrats. But they will use losing the COVID subsidies as an excuse to raise them by a few hundred. If not for the latest tantrum by Democrats, the insurers would have been blamed for that. Now all such anger can be directed at Donald Trump, the Goldstein of the modern Democratic Party.

Fun Fact: Obamacare subsidies do NOT go to the insured. They are given straight to the health insurers based on the numbers of enrollees they report.

If there were some way for them to artificially raise that number, they would get even more. Turns out that there is.

Why would someone have an all-important healthcare policy and never use it, not even for a checkup? Often because they don't know that they are "insured."

  • Rising numbers of zero-claim enrollees—people who did not file a single medical claim—bolster evidence of rampant fraud in ACA exchanges. Many of these enrollees are phantoms—people unaware of their coverage or enrolled in other plans.
  • Biden COVID credits drove fraud by creating zero-dollar plans that are fully subsidized by taxpayers and require no enrollee contributions. Unscrupulous brokers enrolled many people without their knowledge and many others after manipulating information on applications to maximize subsidies.
  • The sharp increase in zero-claim enrollment from 2021 to 2024 is not explained by meaningfully higher enrollment among young, healthy beneficiaries.

 
We need to address the cost side but sadly neither party is interested.
 
The anger and irrationality of the Democrats during this shutdown reminds me very much of the anger and irrationality of both sides of the aisle when they questioned RFK about the COVID vaccine.

So Americans- even poor MAGAts living in trailer parks, are starting to realize Trump's plan to take away their health coverage is screwing them.

No wonder you are panicking
 
So Americans- even poor MAGAts living in trailer parks, are starting to realize Trump's plan to take away their health coverage is screwing them.

No wonder you are panicking
That is your most counterfactual post of the day.

So far. But it is only early morning, so I'll keep an eye on the rest.
 
Trump is losing the day on taking away people's health coverage. A sensible Republican would have comprimised by now.

Trump just can't stand to be called a "loser".
They already compromised.

Thune promised a vote on the healthcare question after the Dems vote for the CR.

What could be fairer than that?
 
Actually putting health care back into the CR. That would be fair.

How does a Republican Say "**** You"? "Trust me!"
What would the Dems offer in return?

How about revokation of the phony "legal status" given by the Autopen Administration? More than two million of them.

Then that law Dems keep bragging about where illegals never get taxfunded health care would make sure that the 130 billion was not spent on border jumpers.
 
What would the Dems offer in return?

How about revokation of the phony "legal status" given by the Autopen Administration? More than two million of them.

Then that law Dems keep bragging about where illegals never get taxfunded health care would make sure that the 130 billion was not spent on border jumpers.

Why should they trade anything?

This is a simple issue. Return health coverage to lower income people, many of whom are MAGA anyway, so you should be happy to do it.

If you want to make a case to deport people, go to court and make a case.

The problem is, Trump doesn't want to go to court, because under our laws, most of those people would be allowed to stay.
 
Why should they trade anything?
Because they claim they want to negotiate. You gotta bring something to the table if you want to negotiate.

Democrats have never understood that simple principle. There idea of negotations is:

Dems: Pitty us and give us what we want.

Reps: What will you give us if we give you what you want?

Dems: I said, Pitty me! Pitty me! Pitty me!!!!!

This is a simple issue. Return health coverage to lower income people, many of whom are MAGA anyway, so you should be happy to do it.
"Return?"

Health coverage has NOT been taken away from them. All we have so far is speculation from the left about people losing healthcare. You have not explained why it would be in the healthcare providers interest to raise their rates so much that they lose their customers.

After Jan 1st, if your worst predictions come true, you will have something real to talk about.
If you want to make a case to deport people, go to court and make a case.
Deportations seems to be happening at a decent clip regardless of the shutdown and Blue state and local interference.

Meanwhile, why give them incentive to stay, when so many are voluntarily self-deporting?
The problem is, Trump doesn't want to go to court, because under our laws, most of those people would be allowed to stay.
Nope. Most are being denied.

Asylum seekers are having less and less success at their individual hearings before an Immigration Judge.[1] The latest case-by-case Court records for October 2024 show asylum grant rates had declined to just 35.8 percent. This is in down sharply from earlier in the current administration when grant rates had climbed to above 50 percent. See Figure 1.

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Because they claim they want to negotiate. You gotta bring something to the table if you want to negotiate.

Democrats have never understood that simple principle. There idea of negotations is:

Dems: Pitty us and give us what we want.

Reps: What will you give us if we give you what you want?

Dems: I said, Pitty me! Pitty me! Pitty me!!!!!


"Return?"

Health coverage has NOT been taken away from them. All we have so far is speculation from the left about people losing healthcare. You have not explained why it would be in the healthcare providers interest to raise their rates so much that they lose their customers.

After Jan 1st, if your worst predictions come true, you will have something real to talk about.

Deportations seems to be happening at a decent clip regardless of the shutdown and Blue state and local interference.

Meanwhile, why give them incentive to stay, when so many are voluntarily self-deporting?

Nope. Most are being denied.

Asylum seekers are having less and less success at their individual hearings before an Immigration Judge.[1] The latest case-by-case Court records for October 2024 show asylum grant rates had declined to just 35.8 percent. This is in down sharply from earlier in the current administration when grant rates had climbed to above 50 percent. See Figure 1.

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Exactly.... That was that very denial rate that caused them to seek a black market method of coming into the country.
 
Trump is losing the day on taking away people's health coverage. A sensible Republican would have comprimised by now.

Trump just can't stand to be called a "loser".
Only illegals lost it
 
No they are covering up the failure of the ACA
 
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Because they claim they want to negotiate. You gotta bring something to the table if you want to negotiate.

Democrats have never understood that simple principle. There idea of negotations is:

Dems: Pitty us and give us what we want.

Reps: What will you give us if we give you what you want?

Dems: I said, Pitty me! Pitty me! Pitty me!!!!!


"Return?"
Oh-so close...

Dems: What you won't pity me?...Well, that just shows us what a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, cat kicking hater of the cheeeeelllldrennnnnnn that you are!
 
Because they claim they want to negotiate. You gotta bring something to the table if you want to negotiate.

Democrats have never understood that simple principle. There idea of negotations is:

Sure, this is what we are bringing to the table. Restore health care and we'll let you turn the government back on.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
 
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