Are Biden's issuance of presidential pardons going too far?

[Marener]

I've seen the DEMO crazies with their lockdowns, authoritarian mandates and Lord Fauci "I am the science" garbage.

Yeah, lockdowns were tough. So was a global pandemic.

It’s hardly crazy given what we were dealing with at the time.

And when the risk abated, the lockdowns went away.

Hardly crazy. Pretty rational.

I never saw Fauci misrepresent any of the science. Hes earned his position by merit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm going to call out Biden and his use of pardons as a means to protect his crime family.

That's what free expression allows me to do.

What are you going to do about that wannabe internet tough guy?

Feel free to bitch, but don't lie about the justification is all I am saying.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Time after time after time after time, democrats have shown us how to do something and then gripe about it when Republicans wind up doing it better than they did. Opening cans of worms has been destroying our country and, of course, democrats will cry themselves red when blanket pardons are issued like this under Trump and other Republicans. No one opens more cans of worms than the democrats do.

EXACTLY! You and I will, nor anyone else will never change their hypocrisy.

 

[martybegan]

You guys love coming up with new rules out of convenience.

You just make it up as you go along.

Biden did that with mass pre-pardoning of his family and cronies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The question isn't about the pardon's content, the question is can you even pardon someone who hasn't even been indicted for a crime.

It's not questioning the reasoning for the pardon, it's questioning if it's actually a pardon at all.

People were willing to let i pass when it was used on Nixon, less so when it's used as Biden used it.

There is no challenge, so why worry about it?

 

[Hollie]

You guys love coming up with new rules out of convenience.

You just make it up as you go along.

Yeah, lockdowns were tough. So was a global pandemic.

It’s hardly crazy given what we were dealing with at the time.

And when the risk abated, the lockdowns went away.

Hardly crazy. Pretty rational.

I never saw Fauci misrepresent any of the science. Hes earned his position by merit.

The most onerous lockdowns occurred in states run by Uber leftist governors.


Lord Fauci earned his position by length of employment. There were much better virologists and immunologists who cpuld have taken his place.
The entire 6 feet apart nonsense was acknowledged by Lord Fauci as "made up".

Vaccine mandates served only to appease the authoritarian left.

 

[martybegan]

There is no challenge, so why worry about it?

I have a feeling one will be coming up. These things just happened.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I do, it gave the SC the ability to review things like this.

Again, it's not questioning the pardons themselves, it's questioning if they are pardons at all.

No. Constitutional review has nothing to do with this.

 

[martybegan]

No. Constitutional review has nothing to do with this.

It goes to the question of what is a pardon, not the reason for it, or the act of giving one.

 

[Marener]

Biden did that with mass pre-pardoning of his family and cronies.

Nope. Nothing new about pardoning people who haven’t been convicted.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The issue is are they actually pardons as the framers intended?

The framers intent was that pardons not be subject to interference from the legislative or judicial branches.

 

[Hollie]

Feel free to bitch, but don't lie about the justification is all I am saying.

Feel free to whine and moan. I'll call out lack of justification when warranted.

Feel free to find a soothing balm for your hurt feelings.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You think Nixon should have been tried in traffic court? Do you want to exhume and impeach?

Can you please be serious in you discussions? The adults are talking.

 

[Marener]

I'll call out lack of justification when warranted.

Biden explained the justification. There is nothing lacking other than your ignorance.

 

[Marener]

The most onerous lockdowns occurred in states run by Uber leftist governors.


Lord Fauci earned his position by length of employment. There were much better virologists and immunologists who cpuld have taken his place.
The entire 6 feet apart nonsense was acknowledged by Lord Fauci as "made up".

Vaccine mandates served only to appease the authoritarian left.

Fauci was promoted to his position because of merit, not from seniority. He was extremely highly regarded throughout the medical community and had contributed massively to medical science.

 

[Hollie]

Biden explained the justification. There is nothing lacking other than your ignorance.

Biden, appeased the ignorance and authoritarianism of punk democrat mini-dictators.

No need to announce your ignorance in a public forum.

 

[22lcidw]

Nope. Nothing new about pardoning people who haven’t been convicted.

That does not mean they are not criminals. And Joe has proved it with the pardons.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have a feeling one will be coming up. These things just happened.

The Constitution does not allow challenges.

 

[Marener]

Biden, appeased the ignorance and authoritarianism of punk democrat mini-dictators.

No need to announce your ignorance in a public forum.

What are you talking about?

Biden clearly said he was issuing the pardons to protect people from political persecution.

Agree with it or not isn’t relevant. The justification exists.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It goes to the question of what is a pardon, not the reason for it, or the act of giving one.

The Constitution is explicit.