Are American colleges hurting Americans by so many international students?

[Coyote]

Are the universities AMERICAN or not?

I’ve never before heard the are restricted to Americans. You guys were all about merit.

Guess not.

 

[Coyote]

DEPORT THEM ALL;.

Can’t deport American citizens.

 

[Correll]

I’ve never before heard the are restricted to Americans. You guys were all about merit.

Guess not.

YOur reflexive siding with foreigners, over Americans, is clear for all to see.


Why should an AMERICAN university, not serve AMERICAN students interests ahead of those of FOREIGN students?

 

[Correll]

Can’t deport American citizens.

Some you can. If they lied to get their citizenship. Or if they joined an anti-American organization soon after getting papers.


Dumbass.

 

[Coyote]

YOur reflexive siding with foreigners, over Americans, is clear for all to see.


Why should an AMERICAN university, not serve AMERICAN students interests ahead of those of FOREIGN students?

Should students be admitted on the basis of merit?

Or not?

 

[Coyote]

Some you can. If they lied to get their citizenship. Or if they joined an anti-American organization soon after getting papers.


Dumbass.

Cool. Maybe they can deport you then since MAGA is anti-American

 

[Correll]

Should students be admitted on the basis of merit?

Or not?

My opinion? No. We should admit them based on what serves AMERICAN interests.

I ask you again, Why should an AMERICAN university, not serve AMERICAN students interests ahead of those of FOREIGN students?

 

[Correll]

Cool. Maybe they can deport you then since MAGA is anti-American

You leftards have demonstrated that you don't give a damn about the law or civil rights, when dealing with your political enemies, so, I would not be surprised.

 

[toobfreak]

What is wrong with pro-Palestinian?

What is right about it? Where was all of this same ardor and flag waving when China invaded Tibet, murdered many, imprisoned others and sent the government into exile effectively destroying all that was Tibetan?

If I were a doctor and took a blood sample, I could not tell you if you were Palestinian or not as they inhabit no specific haplogroup separate from others.

A couple years ago, a terrorist organization using Gaza as cover, snuck into Israel and brutally murdered thousands of people.

To this day, Hamas gets support from about 80% of all Palestinians.

Just what is there about them to be pro about?

 

[Coyote]

What is right about it? Where was all of this same ardor and flag waving when China invaded Tibet, murdered many, imprisoned others and sent the government into exile effectively destroying all that was Tibetan?

So because you feel insufficient attention was paid to one, people shouldn’t care about others?

If I were a doctor and took a blood sample, I could not tell you if you were Palestinian or not as they inhabit no specific haplogroup separate from others.

So what? Do Americans inhabit a specific halo group?

A couple years ago, a terrorist organization using Gaza as cover, snuck into Israel and brutally murdered thousands of people.

Yes, and? How does deny Palestinians any rights?

To this day, Hamas gets support from about 80% of all Palestinians.

Just what is there about them to be pro about?

Israel has killed over 50,000 mostly women and children with popular support. Why should anyone be pro Israel?

Ultimately, it makes no difference. You may not agree with them having any rights but others do. Just as many support Israel yet no one is talking about deporting protesters who support Israel’s rights.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That’s some scary stuff. I do notice that when I am at the shopping mall, or as it happens visiting a loved one in the hospital, there is a very small minority of whites. At the hospital, it was even more pronounced. I didn’t see a single white staffer - doctor, nurse, or support staff.

That's where you live. Not a good example.

I have spent a lot of time in two university hospitals over the past 4 years. The hospital staffs are diverse with more doctors being foreign born than not. My current surgeon and specialist are both native born Americans, one Polish and one with a Christian-Arabic last name. The surgeon who did my transplant and most of the surgical staff were an even mix of American and foreign born, but American educated. The nursing staff tend to have mostly white nurses with black, Filipino, and African blacks being the minorities and each represented about the same.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Where I live college students are joyless, depressed, like they were being marched to the gallows.

You apparently don't get out much.

 

[toobfreak]

So because you feel insufficient attention was paid to one, people shouldn’t care about others?

First come, first served. At least Tibetans did nothing to bring China's ire on.

So what? Do Americans inhabit a specific halo group?

Non sequitur. At best, all that says is that being Palestinian is much like being a Chicagoan, so, no genocide possible.

Yes, and? How does deny Palestinians any rights?

Israel was invaded by terrorists from Gaza, some of them Palestinian, with their full knowledge and support apparently. Then broke into Israel and raped and murdered, throwing babies into hot ovens.

Israel has killed over 50,000 mostly women and children with popular support. Why should anyone be pro Israel?

With the median age of Palestinians being 18, it is pretty hard not to fight them and not kill a lot of women and children. Apparently by age 7, they are already taught to hate Jews, how to carry bombs and how to blow themselves up. Is Israel faultless? No, but for the most part, Israelis are in Israel hunkered down looking for missile attacks. Had Hamas simply turned over the hostages long ago and surrendered, there would be no war, no killing in Gaza today.

Ultimately, it makes no difference. You may not agree with them having any rights but others do.

Sure, everyone has rights. But that includes the Israelis too, to live in peace. But there can be no peace with neighbors who have vowed to exterminate you down to every last man, woman and child. Why do you defend Palestine yet not Israel?

I prefer another way:

1. The elimination of Iran as a sponsor of terrorism.
2. The eradication of Hamas and similar terror groups.
3. The stabilization of the region by recognizing territorial boundaries.

 

[Coyote]

First come, first served. At least Tibetans did nothing to bring China's ire on.


Non sequitur. At best, all that says is that being Palestinian is much like being a Chicagoan, so, no genocide possible.


Israel was invaded by terrorists from Gaza, some of them Palestinian, with their full knowledge and support apparently. Then broke into Israel and raped and murdered, throwing babies into hot ovens.


With the median age of Palestinians being 18, it is pretty hard not to fight them and not kill a lot of women and children. Apparently by age 7, they are already taught to hate Jews, how to carry bombs and how to blow themselves up. Is Israel faultless? No, but for the most part, Israelis are in Israel hunkered down looking for missile attacks. Had Hamas simply turned over the hostages long ago and surrendered, there would be no war, no killing in Gaza today.


Sure, everyone has rights. But that includes the Israelis too, to live in peace. But there can be no peace with neighbors who have vowed to exterminate you down to every last man, woman and child. Why do you defend Palestine yet not Israel?

I prefer another way:

1. The elimination of Iran as a sponsor of terrorism.
2. The eradication of Hamas and similar terror groups.
3. The stabilization of the region by recognizing territorial boundaries.

I’m not to answer in detail, or I’ll derail the thread.

But approving of selectively persecuting people who support Palestinian rights or an end to the war in Gaza is very dangerous territory for free speech and for our country. Immigrants are the low hanging fruit. Who’s next?

Who’s view point will next need to be silenced by the government?

 

[toobfreak]

But approving of selectively persecuting people ~~~~ is very dangerous territory for free speech and for our country.

Four years of Joe Biden proved that. But Palestinians have no innate right to free speech here. They should take those arguments straight to Israel whom they seem to have the big problem with.

Who’s view point will next need to be silenced by the government?

Joe Biden has shown that all things are possible.
When I was in college, there were no Palestinians protesting, and very few foreigners. Maybe American colleges should stick to educating Americans.

 

[Pastelli]

The numbers are staggering. NYU is about 50% foreign, and Ivies like Columbia and Harvard - with major antisemitism problems and a lot of Arab funding - are about 25%.

Given 1) how many of these foreigners hate the country and oppose its foreign policies and 2) how difficult it is for Americans, especially whites of middle class backgrounds, to get in, isn’t this unfair to our nation’s youth?

Schools with the Highest Foreign Student Populations

As admissions become increasingly competitive, Congress should consider whether it would make sense to limit the number of foreign students that can be enrolled at America’s educational institutions, in total numbers and/or as a percentage of any institution’s overall enrollment.

cis.org

Correctly stated

 

[Lisa558]

Correctly stated

Thank you. Our liberal friends seem to think that American colleges should reject American students in favor of foreign students, many of whom have values antithetical to America.

 

[Lisa558]

I’ve never before heard the are restricted to Americans. You guys were all about merit.

Guess not.

Why are you assuming the Palestinians and Arabs accepted into the leftist Universities have more “merit”? These institutions have been getting a fortune from rich Muslim countries, and they have an agenda. THAT is why there are so many Arab students and professors - and so much anti-semitism.

Why are you on the side of foreign Muslims rather than American Jewish students who are now being bullied and assaulted by atmosphere the Arabs have enabled?

 

[Lisa558]

Cool. Maybe they can deport you then since MAGA is anti-American

MAGA is the very epitome of pro-American.

 

[Pastelli]

Thank you. Our liberal friends seem to think that American colleges should reject American students in favor of foreign students, many of whom have values antithetical to America.

Abd many are plain anti American, but use the "pro-palestine-mask" as a stepping stone.