Are American colleges hurting Americans by so many international students?

[toobfreak]

Palestinians have as much right to free speech as any other group here. Taking their arguments to Israel tends to get them fired, deported, or killed.

What I was saying is that they do not have the right to force their views on others nor act out violently with those they disagree with.

Really? That is funny.

What is funny about it?

When I was in college we had a number of foreign students. Mostly: China, Iran, several African countries, India and Japan (those are the only ones I remember well).

I use the world "college" generically. I went to two private universities and at a time before it was considered in vogue to be stupidly taking in students from hostile foreign countries. We now know that this has been a major source for the bleeding of U.S. technology out of this country.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Because the ADL (I assume that’s who you meant) has become very liberal, and they are more concerned with bigotry against blacks than against Jews - as are all leftists.

American Mossad

I don't mean the Anti-Defamation League. There was a group, the Jewish Defense League. I guess they faded away.

At least Jews ought to carry pepper spray, brass knuckles, or Tasers. You ought to know by experience that nobody will protect you adequately but yourselves.

 

[JoeB131]

No dope, it isn’t that Americans are too stupid it is that the highest tech, most successful countries in the world need the best people in the world, not just the US. It stands to reason that with the US only have 4-5% of the world population, that many of the “best” may not be American. I can guarantee you that the more than 5% of the employees at Google, Microsoft, Tesla, etc. are Americans.

Then let's end H1B visas. They take away American jobs, right?

I mean, if you are going to block the universities from taking the brightest, Corporate America needs to be forced to do the same.

Oh, no, wait, the billionaires who really run things are against that.

SUCKER!!!!

 

[SweetTea]

Then let's end H1B visas. They take away American jobs, right?

I mean, if you are going to block the universities from taking the brightest, Corporate America needs to be forced to do the same.

Oh, no, wait, the billionaires who really run things are against that.

SUCKER!!!!

Government universities are different than private corporations. Don't be stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

Government universities are different than private corporations. Don't be stupid.

Why are they different?

You might have a point if they were totally subsidized by the government, but for the most part, they are subsidized by tuition (go back to my commentary on UIC and how the costs have been shifted to Students).

So if big corporations find it profitable to hire foreigners, big universities should be able to profit from foreign money.

 

[Correll]

I’ll side with anyone who has done no wrong.

Got it. You feel zero loyalty to your fellow Americans and expect and support American colleges to do the same.

THAT IS TEH POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION.

Well…what happened to merit…you know, the thing you guys used to make a big stink about?

Nothing happened to merit. We are discussing something else, the use of a limited AMERICAN resource and how to divide it up, between Americans and non-Americans.

Your position, which you seem unwilling to discuss, it first come first serve, with regards to non-Americans.

Which is counter to your normal approach, with INTERNAL AMERICANS students, then you want to institution controlls to benefit sub groups of Americans that you like more.

Aside from that, private universities (unlike perhaps public ones) can make their own admissions decisions in regards to US or foreign applicants.

Yes they can. And if those decisions are harmful to America and Americans, we can make some decisions of our own.

Like yanking their funding, denying visas to foreigners, or turning off the fucking lights and heat.

 

[JoeB131]

Got it. You feel zero loyalty to your fellow Americans and expect and support American colleges to do the same.

THAT IS TEH POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION.

Again, guy, imposing the opinion of less than half the country isn't supporting fellow Americans.

I would personally like to see Colleges get rid of legacies, athletics, Dean's interests and preference for children of staff and make it just about merit. I don't think white people would like that very much, though.

Nothing happened to merit. We are discussing something else, the use of a limited AMERICAN resource and how to divide it up, between Americans and non-Americans.

This is where you are confused.

Those resources are generated by those who pay tuition.

So who are you going to take?

Timmy got mediocre grades in High School, and he's paying a fixed rate because his parents are borrowing to the hilt for him to be a C-student.

Or Abdul, who has great grades, speaks at least two languages, and is paying a higher rate because he's an out of state student and he's paying cash on the barrel.

This isn't about merit, of course. This is about some of these college students daring to say stuff the Zionist Lobby doesn't like.

Yes they can. And if those decisions are harmful to America and Americans, we can make some decisions of our own.

Like yanking their funding, denying visas to foreigners, or turning off the fucking lights and heat.

YOu can tell Correll never benefited from a college education.