Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Marener]

What were the crimes stipulated?

All of them. Is that confusing for you?

What did the January 6th committee do?

Investigated Trump.

Why are you so concerned about them getting prosecuted?

Because Trump is a little wanna be fascist.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Again, the crimes being pardoned are stipulated. There’s no ambiguity.

There were no crimes mentioned. They don't even know if a crime has been committed. "Any and all" doesn't work, as your article had stipulated, the pardon can only come AFTER the commission of a crime. So if biden pardoned them, then either they did indeed commit federal crimes, or his pardon is not valid.

 

[buckeye]

There is no such thing as a grant of immunity. A pardon does not have to specify the crime.

Baloney. Prosecutors grant immunity all the time.

As I said this will go to the courts where it belongs.

 

[ThisIsMe]

You tell me. I don’t care.

I know you don't care lol...unless it's a republican. I'm asking you to tell me what crime they committed, that's all

 

[ThisIsMe]

Pardoning a future crime is not a pardon. That's called immunity as another poster was so ineloquently argued. That is why a future pardon cannot exist.

ok, so now we're back to what marener posted, that a pardon can only happen after the commission of a crime. So, we are to understand that the J6 committee indeed committed federal crimes?

 

[Marener]

There were no crimes mentioned. They don't even know if a crime has been committed. "Any and all" doesn't work, as your article had stipulated, the pardon can only come AFTER the commission of a crime. So if biden pardoned them, then either they did indeed commit federal crimes, or his pardon is not valid.

Any and all absolutely does work.

Okay. Let’s say that the pardon isn’t valid if they didn’t commit any crimes. Fine. If they didn’t commit any crimes, they don’t need a pardon. Either way, the pardon stands and they’re not able to be prosecuted.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The key word you are missing is "alleged".

There is nothing in that article about "alleged" it simply says a pardon can only happen after the crime has been committed.

 

[Marener]

I know you don't care lol...unless it's a republican. I'm asking you to tell me what crime they committed, that's all

I never said they committed any crime. That should be obvious by now.

 

[Blisterfinger]

All of them. Is that confusing for you?

So you're admitting the j6 committee is Criminal. Could you be more specific? Why are you running away from all my questions? Why are you so dishonest? What's in it for you?

Investigated Trump.

Since when is it investigating Trump a crime that you need to be pardoned for? Are you admitting that the January 6th committee was engaged in criminal Behavior?

Because Trump is a little wanna be fascist.

Do you have any proof of that? I've already proven that you are dishonest and nefarious, so honestly your credibility is gone. You are an empty shell

 

[Blisterfinger]

There were no crimes mentioned. They don't even know if a crime has been committed. "Any and all" doesn't work, as your article had stipulated, the pardon can only come AFTER the commission of a crime. So if biden pardoned them, then either they did indeed commit federal crimes, or his pardon is not valid.

Mariner, lying again

 

[egp320i]

The signatures are verified, logged, and retained.

You have to make a case that was not the case.

we will never know, we are peons, we don't get inside information on what they do unless they want us to know, usually for some angle or misdirection for themselves

 

[Marener]

Since when is it investigating Trump a crime that you need to be pardoned for?

When you elected a wanna be fascist who intends to use the DoJ to persecute his political enemies.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What were the crimes stipulated? What did the January 6th committee do? Why are you so concerned about them getting prosecuted?

There was no crime stipulated. They want to take "any and all" and say that THAT is enough, yet, their own links say that a pardon comes after a crime...as I originally stated when I entered this argument lol

They want to thumb their nose at what the law says and say that biden can pardon someone for any crime they MAY have committed, though, I think it was marener who said the real reason out loud, that biden pardoned them to prevent trump from investigating them..which goes against the law article that they just linked that says a pardon has to come after the commission of a crime.

 

[buckeye]

I know you don't care lol...unless it's a republican. I'm asking you to tell me what crime they committed, that's all

He's been running from that question for about 12 hours now.

He'll never answer it because it blows his argument to smithereens. And he lies, too.

Leftsts are like that.

 

[Blisterfinger]

The signatures are verified, logged, and retained.

You have to make a case that was not the case.

Trump wants to prosecute these people, for very good reason. We will see about that

 

[Marener]

He's been running from that question for about 12 hours now.

He'll never answer it because it blows his argument to smithereens. And he lies, too.

Leftsts are like that.

It’s a dishonest question and I’ve explained it many times. In the same vein as asking when you stop being your wife.

 

[ThisIsMe]

All of them. Is that confusing for you?

OK, so you are saying a federal crime was committed? What was it? By him saying "all of them" must mean the committed a bunch of crimes...

 

[otto105]

There were no crimes mentioned. They don't even know if a crime has been committed. "Any and all" doesn't work, as your article had stipulated, the pardon can only come AFTER the commission of a crime. So if biden pardoned them, then either they did indeed commit federal crimes, or his pardon is not valid.

Hilarious

 

[ThisIsMe]

Any and all absolutely does work.

Okay. Let’s say that the pardon isn’t valid if they didn’t commit any crimes. Fine. If they didn’t commit any crimes, they don’t need a pardon. Either way, the pardon stands and they’re not able to be prosecuted.

If the pardon isn't valid, then they can be investigated.

you have already said that the biden pardon was preemptive to ward off trump going after them. If that is true, then the pardon didn't follow a crime...means it's invalid.

If the pardon is valid, then a crime HAS to have been committed. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Marener]

OK, so you are saying a federal crime was committed?

For the nth time, I’ve not said that at all.