About 2 New York seconds.
I'd love some of that fucking global warming right now in the Twin Cities, MN. I'm sick of the snow and ice we have down here and would like the women to stop wearing parkas for the first time since SEPTEMBER!!!
7th snowiest all time recorded, and although not the coldest, it won't fucking go away!
Hey I sympathize, we go shopping there for some of the stuff they don`t stock in Manitoba. Where You live it`s not much "warmer" than where I live.
Were You hoping just like us, that You could trade in Your hockey stick for Golf clubs in the Spring ever since the "Hockey Stick Temp Graph" was published..Boy oh boy did they let us down. I bet You`ll be playing ice hockey almost as long as us guys in Manitoba.
At its peak this winter, Arctic Ocean ice covered the smallest area since satellites started measuring it in 1979, researchers report.
Arctic sea ice probably reached its maximum extent for the year on March 7, at 5.65 million square miles, according to the University of Colorado-Boulder’s National Snow and Ice Data Center.
...National Snow and Ice Data Center scientist Walt Meier told Science Daily.
....The seven lowest measurements of end-of-winter sea ice have been recorded in the last seven years, he told Science Daily.
Arctic ice at winter peak is least ever measured by satellite – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs
See, that`s exactly what I was talking about. An "expert" who who is watching satellite pictures, which focus on the Nares Strait, because that`s where the "Global Warming" fodder is...!!! But all the other NASA data which shows how the ice has been building up in other areas of Greenland does not interest him, nor CNN, nor the bloggers You quote..
Chris, don`t take their word as the gospel truth
Chris, there are several reasons why they focus on that area of Greenland, if You were to go there Yourself You would see right away why..It has the steepest slopes and therefore the highest calving action. Atmospheric temperature has nothing to do with it.
The water temperature all around this area has been constant also and always has been warmer than anywhere else in the arctic. I have to admit I have not been up there in 2011 but I doubt any of that has changed since I`ve been there
Taking water temperatures and salinity readings is part of our job up there, but I doubt that the Navy will publish this data, because it was meant for "sub-drivers" that navigate through there on the way to the Dock in Thule and then hide under the polar ice.
But this should help to calm You down...Your house will not get flooded by our "melting ice"..:
The surface waters of the North Atlantic have a higher salinity than those of any other ocean, reaching values exceeding 37 parts per thousand in latitudes
Near the Equator, precipitation dominates and surface salinities of about 35 parts per thousand are encountered
In all fairness I won`t leave this out, but like "OldRocks" I should have, because it does not fit "my oil lobby agenda"...:
At increasingly higher latitudes, precipitation again becomes greater than evaporation, and, correspondingly, the surface salinity decreases in large areas to values less than 34 parts per thousand.
That is only half true when You go as far North as where Greenland is. Because ..
1.) there hardly ever is any precipitation and if there is it comes down as snow and BUILDS up the Glaciers..it sure as hell does not rain very often there.
And...
2.) The SURFACE salinity
at the SOUTHERN (Greenland) TIP ONLY is lower because of the glacier calving in that area...not because "it rains"
Take a look at the Atlantic ocean currents, they have not changed, but I think it might help you understand why that area of Greenland and Ellesmere Island is "warm"..:
What is missing in this picture is how the southern Greenland tip gouges into this current and the "eddie action" goes up half way the Nares Strait between Ellesmere and Greenland. After all there were reasons why the earliest arctic explorer vessels which were`nt "ice breakers" by any stretch of imagination navigated up the Nares as far as they could ride this warm water current..and got as far as Fort Conger way back in 1876. They were in striking distance to reach the North Pole, but that`s as far as they got, after that the climate on both sides of the Nares gets brutally cold and they all died right there
The line where You get blocked by ice is today also exactly where it was back then in 1876.
That`s all stuff You cant` see by satellite..like the huts where the crew of the HMS Discovery died, and the tree stumps of the forests that grew there who knows how many 1000`s of years ago.
Even if hell freezes over Michael Mann won`t write a blog about it.
I have yet to see a CNN report on Fort Conger, Tree Stumps near the pole etc etc..But they do "reports" on Iqaluit natives "having to eat @ McDonalds, instead of raw seal meat...because the ice is too thin"...
My God, has aside from us up there never seen seal on the shores?...Polarbears know,that seals don`t just hang out, way out the ice sheets...
they hang out where the fish they want to eat are!
And any starving Iqaluit native could shoot seal without getting off his couch, if he`d quit playing video games or watch TV...all You have to do is look out the window...We stop in Iqaluit almost every time on our way back from Ellesmere and Thule to AFB Trenton, when we get to go on 6 months leave.
I know what is going on in Iqaluit! You can trip over seal on solid land
California golden seal don`t need any ice...:
and neither do arctic seal, but they have it...
all along the shore there in Iqualuit...the seals hang out like that too, ice or no ice...and no matter if it`s a polar bear or an Eskimo, they could bag one any tme they wanted to
there are a lot polar bears which refuse to leave Churchill and go out on the ice...because they find it easier to eat in the Churchill dump...instead of hunting for food...Wild Life officers have to "dart" them and transport them by helicopter out on the ice sheet...
As You know that is problem with wildlife and especially with bears, they behave like that EVERYWHERE else too,...!
Coyotes, same thing. I had to be in L.A. for a while and then there was a problem with Coyotes in the back-lanes raiding garbage cans..
Nobody in LA said the Coyotes are doing this because "they are starving"
once they found a dump, You can`t get them away from it any more...same as trying to get Iqaluit Eskimos to stay away from McGreaseburgers, once they are in town
You don`t have to live in the arctic to know that...!
Nevertheless, the GW`ers
got lots of mileage out of the "starving polar bears" and the "starving Inuit"
Use Your head Chris...I know You have one...Mathew used it
But it`s up to You which version You prefer about the Greenland glaciers and the Lincoln sea ice sheet
