Arab League criticizes allied airstrikes on Libya

[Ropey]

I've demanded my account to be deleted.

This is my last Post.

Didn't take ekrem long to go back on his word.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, THAT Arab league..

Didn’t take long did it? I guess their idea of a no fly zone is, well a NO FLY zone.
Or they played us, I think they played us personally. *shrugs*

In any event lets see how this plays out.


"Men are so simple and so much inclined to obey immediate needs that a deceiver will never lack victims for his deceptions".
Machiavelli




Arab League criticizes allied airstrikes on Libya
(AP) – 5 hours ago

CAIRO (AP) — The head of the Arab League has criticized international strikes on Libya, saying they caused civilian deaths.

The Arab League's support for a no-fly zone last week helped overcome reluctance in the West for action in Libya. The U.N. authorized not only a no-fly zone but also "all necessary measures" to protect civilians.

Amr Moussa says the military operations have gone beyond what the Arab League backed.

Moussa has told reporters Sunday that "what happened differs from the no-fly zone objectives."

more at---
The Associated Press: Arab League criticizes allied airstrikes on Libya

Maybe the Arab League can invent a Smart-Bomb that only kills troops wearing uniforms.

 

[California Girl]

It appears the Arabs say one thing in private, and another in public. .

WHAAAAAAAAT?

 

[High_Gravity]

Didn't the Arab league ok the strikes, now they are upset about it? go figure.

 

[mudwhistle]

Didn't the Arab league ok the strikes, now they are upset about it? go figure.

But they didn't want anybody killed!!!

If it wasn't for their oil I would recommend we just let them murder each other.

Arabs tend to start shit then ask for help when things get outta hand. We have to risk looking like imperialists or like uncaring isolationists.

The rub is ether way you end up being criticized.

 

[JBeukema]

Video, Libya: Colonel Gaddafi Recommends Armed Forces Call A Ceasefire, Amid Anti-Aircraft Fire | World News | Sky News

It appears the Arabs say one thing in private, and another in public.


Of the Arab states, only Qatar has openly supported the Western-led campaign and their planes are now moving into position near Libya.

Sky sources confirm the United Arab Emirates is offering help but does not seek to publicise it.

The same Qatar that gives us Al Jazeera?

 

[mudwhistle]

from the link;


Moussa said the Arab League’s approval of a no-fly zone on March 12 was based on a desire to prevent Moammar Gaddafi’s air force from attacking civilians and was not designed to endorse the intense bombing and missile attacks — including on Tripoli, the capital, and on Libyan ground forces — whose images have filled Arab television screens for two days.'

“What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone,” he said in a statement carried by the official Middle East News Agency. “And what we want is the protection of civilians and not the shelling of more civilians.”

and there it is, I am also watching Wolf Blitzer right now, he just made exactly the same comment, it appears we may have been had.

I have said all along, this is not a no fly zone, they are to be kind, shading the truth.

Anyone ever see Breaker Morant?...I am reminded of the part where Edward Woodward and Bryan Brown are walking past peters cell towards their death, ( he, peter was spared a firing squad) and he calls out to them, Woodward was he slowly walks by says, " this is what come of empire building peter"....if you saw the movie or know the story you'll see the flavor of the comment I am making.

My question is why is the U.N doing this in libya and did nothing last year in Iran? What about Darfur?

Iran is big fish.
Libya is midget fish of 6 Million people equipped with 1960's Soviet weapons, and production costs of Oil are 1$ per Barrel in Libya as Libya is a flat desert nation with Oil not deep.
Oil reserves in Libya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and the french need to lash out because they gave up on Lebanon and Egypt.

Seems lately the U.S.is acting more like the French then the French are.

 

[ekrem]

Putin: anti-Libya force reminiscent of Crusades
The Associated Press: Putin: anti-Libya force reminiscent of Crusades


German FM Westerwelle
'We decided not to participate with German soldiers, we calculated the risk and if we see that three days after this intervention began the Arab League already criticized this intervention, I think we had good reasons,' German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said
Germany opposition exposes EU divisions on Libyan military action - Monsters and Critics


Prime Minister Erdogan
"NATO should only enter Libya to determine that Libya belongs to Libyans and not to distribute its natural resources and richness to others," Erdogan said
The Associated Press: Putin: anti-Libya force reminiscent of Crusades


Turkish Defence Minister Vecdi Gonul
"It seems impossible for us to understand France being so prominent in this process. We are having difficulty in understanding it being like the enforcer of United Nations decisions,"
Turkey criticises France's role in Libya intervention | Reuters


Making show in Paris isn't an international consensus.
France has destroyed other options with its hasty actions. Now the West is basically in another War with a Muslim country, and US-France try to convince some insignificant Gulf Sultanates to join the operation with 4-5 Aircrafts so it gets legitimacy for US's PR in Muslim world.

 

[mudwhistle]

Why oh why do they hate us???

 

[ekrem]

Diplomats said Turkey, NATO’s only predominantly Muslim member, was angered by its exclusion from an emergency summit Saturday in Paris organized by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, at which the 22 participants agreed to launch armed action against Gadhafi’s military. The diplomats said Turkey’s envoys have warned that NATO’s participation in the airstrikes could damage the alliance’s standing in the Islamic world at a time when it is heavily engaged in the war in Afghanistan.
Europeans struggle to stay united on Libyan airstrikes, Turkey blocks NATO from participating - The Washington Post



WIKILEAKS
Sarkozy's staff 'diverted plane so he didn't see Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkish colours'.
Read more: WIKILEAKS: Sarkozy's staff 'diverted plane so he didn't see Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkish colours' | Mail Online


France might sit in UNSC, but it doesn't have the influence and standing Turkey has in Muslim world.

Turkey to serve as protecting power for U.S. in Libya - CNN.com

Turkey frees 4 NYT journalists from Libya
The Associated Press: Turkey: 4 New York Times journalists released


Now France can lead you in another PR distaster in the Muslim world.

 

[ekrem]

"There are legal procedures for the establishment of a coalition in an international operation.
We take the view that for Libya, these were not sufficiently respected"

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu
Turkey says legal procedures not respected in West Libya action | Diplomacy | World Bulletin

Sarkozy can fish some % points from the far-right off of LePen and Obama can get his Muslim PR ratings.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey to serve as protecting power for U.S. in Libya - CNN.com

Turkey frees 4 NYT journalists from Libya
The Associated Press: Turkey: 4 New York Times journalists released


Now France can lead you in another PR distaster in the Muslim world.

NYT journalists with Turkish ambassador in Libya

 

[ekrem]

Italy warns it will review use of bases if Libya operation doesn’t pass to NATO control

Foreign Minister Franco Frattini issued the ultimatum Monday after Turkey blocked NATO from approving a military strategy that would allow NATO’s participation in the operation.
Italy warns it will review use of bases if Libya operation doesn’t pass to NATO control - The Washington Post

Just bomb, and think later.

 

[High_Gravity]

Italy warns it will review use of bases if Libya operation doesn’t pass to NATO control

Foreign Minister Franco Frattini issued the ultimatum Monday after Turkey blocked NATO from approving a military strategy that would allow NATO’s participation in the operation.
Italy warns it will review use of bases if Libya operation doesn’t pass to NATO control - The Washington Post

Just bomb, and think later.

Turkey better get with the program or they are going to miss out on those juicy multi billion dollar oil contracts.

 

[ekrem]

Russia, China, India and Turkey condemn Libya strikes


India urged an immediate halt to the strikes spearheaded by French fighter jets Saturday, as Germany said it had "good reasons" for abstaining from Thursday's UN vote on the action and African nations voiced criticism.

Read more: Russia, China, India and Turkey condemn Libya strikes

 

[High_Gravity]

Russia, China, India and Turkey condemn Libya strikes


India urged an immediate halt to the strikes spearheaded by French fighter jets Saturday, as Germany said it had "good reasons" for abstaining from Thursday's UN vote on the action and African nations voiced criticism.

Read more: Russia, China, India and Turkey condemn Libya strikes

Looks like Russia, China, India and Turkey are going to miss out on those oil contracts.

 

[ekrem]

"It seems impossible for us to understand France being so prominent in this process. We are having difficulty in understanding it being like the enforcer of United Nations decisions,"

- Defence Minister Vecdi Gonul
Turkey criticises France's role in Libya intervention | Reuters

 

[ekrem]

Looks like Russia, China, India and Turkey are going to miss out on those oil contracts.

“France is acting as if it were the gendarmerie of the region. This approach could lead to instability,” one Turkish diplomat said.

‘Like-minded countries invited’ [to Paris meeting]
“Prime Minister [Recep Tayyip] Erdoğan explicitly said he opposed foreign intervention. Therefore, we only invited like-minded countries,” a French diplomat told the Daily News.

Alliance of the unaligned split on Libya intervention - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

 

[ekrem]

There was claim, UAE would participate as Muslim country.

The UAE announced on Monday that its role in Libya was strictly confined to the delivery of humanitarian assistance.
UAE role in Libya 'strictly humanitarian' - official - Politics & Economics - ArabianBusiness.com


NATO's Muslim member is not wished to voice its view, and therefore was not invited to Paris meeting.
France has made this thing a 'West' thing.

 

[ekrem]

Only Qatar is contributing 4 airplanes.

Qatar has the population of 0.1% of World Muslims.

Well done! Sarkozy Show.