Apply crippling sanctions on Israel

[Stryder50]

Be glad
Holmes is an idiot.

So is

multivita-man​

 

[Stryder50]

Nope. You don't even understand your own Bible verses, you fucken tard. The OT wasn't talking about Jews. There wasn't an Israel or a Jewish people as we now know them today when that passage was authored. You have no ******* clue what you're talking about

I'm an "Atheist"* dumbfuck !
* = per most definitions of the term; = don't believe in any "Religion"=Theism; ...

And while it may have used the term Hebrew, it is still the same people and concept.

You are the one who like most Marxist~socialists/communists~lying pigs who distorts and abuses the literal word for your dis-informational purposes. But that is typical of neo-Nazi fascists.

 

[The Duke]

Israel is 100% dependent on the US taxpayer, it's a somewhat rogue US proxy and once US enthusiasm for the colonial project fades as I think it eventually must, the regime will collapse.

The fear of course is Israel is the only nuclear armed state in the Middle East, and I've long worried that the regime (the neo-Zionist ideology) will use nuclear weapons to destroy any Arab enemy that gains a foothold.

The Zionist lobby here is powerful and manipulative but that could change, here's what Truman said about the bastards in 1948:

• 
  United States (Vote: For): President Truman later noted, "The facts were that not only were there pressure movements around the United Nations unlike anything that had been seen there before, but that the White House, too, was subjected to a constant barrage. I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance. The persistence of a few of the extreme Zionist leaders—actuated by political motives and engaging in political threats—disturbed and annoyed me."

Despite this the uneducated, antillectual trumpanzees revere the demonic ideology, fools, fools everywhere .

^One of the most fucked-up and absolutely wrong posts I have ever seen.
Somehow that's more fucked uppy and wrong than JoeB's worst. Damn!
I am speechless at the suckitude.

 

[Rambunctious]

Israel is not our enemy... Muslim extremists are... now wake the **** up losers...

 

[Stryder50]

At some point, other Arab neighbors who thought that they might be able to normalize relations with Israel are going to have a rethink. I mean, these countries have spent the last 25 years trying to leave Arab nationalism in their rearview mirrors. Hoping the Palestinian issue would go away and that Israel could just 'manage' it.

What Middle Eastern nations are going to begin to realize sooner rather than later is that the Abraham Accords are tilted in favor of Israel so that it can do whatever the **** it wants. Israel's bombing of Iran has created Shia-Sunni tensions again. Islamic State is back again - for now in Syria but it will spread. ME nations are going to ******* hate Israel for doing this.

You get dumber by the minute.

Arabs~Muslims seek only one type of "normal relations" with any other nation and that is eventual conversion to Islam and Sharia. Anything else is just a delaying and subterfuge tactic to deceive and mislead the infidel towards the eventual conversion to Islam.

In the case of Israel, that land having once been under the Sharia of Islam it is not considered a part of the realm of Islam, just a part lost and to be reclaimed. similar applies to many parts of Eastern and Southern Europe from the Islamic/Sharia/Jihad perspective.

Israel will always be a target because it has reclaimed a land that was once under Sharia rule and per Islamic Dogma, such MUST be returned to Islamic/Sharia Rule.

This is what many in the West fail to grasp or understand, especially the stupid ones whom are of the pseudo-Liberal/Left-wing delusions. Islam has a goal of global conversion of all humans and lands to Islam and any that were once conquered and converted/ruled by Sharia must be returned to that status.

Hence,as far as Islam/Muslims/'Arabs' are concerned, their is only one solution to "Israel" and that is a return of that land into the fold of the Dar El-Islam, the Land/Rule of Islam.

The concept of Taquayya allows for deception of diplomacy to provide lip-service to the "existence" of Israel, but ultimately the land of Israel mus be returned to the Ream/Rule of Islam, as it was once before.

Israel will only be secure and safe once the dogma of Islam is invalidated. Or the religion of Islam is purged from the planet Earth.
Since the goal of Islam is global conversion to that religion, the Earth is only safe and offered Peace if Islam is purged or eradicated. !!!

 

[Stryder50]

Well it's late for me, been a long day so I bid you farewell until tomorrow, let me leave you with this breaking news.

European Commission proposes suspending Israel from part of Horizon research programme

Horizon Europe is among the most prestigious science research programmes in the world

www.theguardian.com

Even dumald can see what's happening

Trump acknowledges ‘real starvation’ in Gaza and tells Israel to let in ‘every ounce of food’

Starmer said to have pressed US president on humanitarian crisis during talks at Turnberry golf resort in Scotland

www.theguardian.com

So who's side you on magats? Dumald Trump or Nazinyahu?

NOT;
Islam,
Hamas,
Islamic Jihad
Pseudo-Leftism/socialism-communism
Or other delusions of your Sith mind.

 

[Stryder50]

many Jews can trace their family ancestry back thousands of yrs ..

Abraham's Pact/Covenant with YHWH starts about 4000 BC.
This is when the Hebrews/Jews become a distinct people/clan/ethnic/Religion .....

 

[Stryder50]

The Bible describes several periods of conflict between the kingdoms of Judah and Israel after the united monarchy split following King Solomon’s reign. Here are a few key passages:

• 1 Kings 15:6 – “There was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days.” This refers to King Asa of Judah and King Baasha of Israel being in constant conflict.
• 2 Chronicles 13:2–3 – King Abijah of Judah went to war against King Jeroboam of Israel with 400,000 chosen men, while Israel had 800,000 mighty men of valor.
• 2 Samuel 3:1 – “There was a long war between the house of Saul and the house of David.” While this is earlier and more about dynastic struggle, it reflects the tension between Saul’s lineage (Israel) and David’s (Judah).
• 2 Chronicles 28:5–8 – During King Ahaz’s reign in Judah, Israel allied with Syria and attacked Judah, capturing many people and spoils.

Yet both Judah and Israel would be considered of the same Hebrew ethnic (Abrahamic Pact with YHWH), so this is like the American Civil war for context.

 

[GLASNOST]

No US president is dumb enough to call for crippling economic sanctions against Israel.

You misspelled "brave".

 

[GLASNOST]

Israel is not our enemy... Muslim extremists are... now wake the **** up losers...

You are saying that a country is not your enemy but a religion is. You are an idiot but I know where you are getting your education:

 

[Stryder50]

It's a relevant question. You're suggesting Jews facing periodic pogroms just go somewhere -- like where?



Ah, got it. You're not criticizing Zionism or Israel; you're indiscriminately insulting all Jews.

That ain't me.

Zionism is "All Jews" and also "Israel".

Zion, the land we know as Israel (and near by parts of the Levant) was a major part of the Pact/Covenant Abraham made with YHWH in forming the 'Hebrew' 'Ethnic'/Religion. The land of Zion/Israel/"Levant" along with the dogma and diet/lifestyle rules are all part of the Pact/Covenant that makes up the Hebrews/Jews.

A similar is the Constitution of the USA, which defines, the land/nation, the politics, and the ethnicity of (U.S. of)America/Americans.

One cannot separate a true, real (US)American from the Constitution. Constitutionalists are not separable from Americans. By definition, to be an (U.S. of) American is also a Constitutionalist.

Similar, to be a Jew is to be a Zionist.

 

[Stryder50]

You are saying that a country is not your enemy but a religion is. You are an idiot but I know where you are getting your education:

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Ever examined the Aztec religion ?
You think their religion with a foundation of living humans being sacrificed/killed is the same classification as other religions like Hindu, Buddhism, pagan, etc. ???

Speaking of idiots, I'm wondering where/what you got for an "education".

 

[Rambunctious]

You are saying that a country is not your enemy but a religion is. You are an idiot but I know where you are getting your education:

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The 9-11 terrorists did not represent a country they represented an ideology... the same Ideology that attacked Israel on Oct 7th... what will it take to wake you fools up?...

 

[Midnight FM]

That's the opinion expressed by a multitude of prominent Israeli Jews today in a letter sent to The Guardian.

Sanctions would hurt the regime, the tool has been used on many brutal regimes over the years and there's no reason to treat this one any differently.

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Israeli public figures call for ‘crippling sanctions’ on Israel over Gaza starvation

Thirty-one high-profile Israelis express shame over ‘brutal campaign’ and demand permanent ceasefire in letter

www.theguardian.com

The problem is that criticism of Israel is tainted by idiots such as anarchists who view any developed country such as Israel as entirely "oppressive" to whom they view as "indigenous" populations, or Nazis who've suddenly taken an affinity to Palestine.

So I don't trust criticism of Israel, and support the level of human rights improving in the Middle East. Israel seems more inclined to do that than undeveloped populations such as Palestine and Afghanistan, where I'm sure that practices such as wife-beating and child marriage are common.

It's not as though Palestine would care any more about the human rights of Jews if they were in power.

 

[Midnight FM]

You get dumber by the minute.

Arabs~Muslims seek only one type of "normal relations" with any other nation and that is eventual conversion to Islam and Sharia. Anything else is just a delaying and subterfuge tactic to deceive and mislead the infidel towards the eventual conversion to Islam.

Doesn't matter. Freedom of religion allows people to attempt to convert others to their religion. I see no reason to believe that the average Muslim is attempting to impose Sharia Law on people, or has any chance of doing so. Nor am I convinced that things are or have to be interpreted in the way you describe.

In the case of Israel, that land having once been under the Sharia of Islam it is not considered a part of the realm of Islam, just a part lost and to be reclaimed. similar applies to many parts of Eastern and Southern Europe from the Islamic/Sharia/Jihad perspective.

Israel will always be a target because it has reclaimed a land that was once under Sharia rule and per Islamic Dogma, such MUST be returned to Islamic/Sharia Rule.

This is what many in the West fail to grasp or understand, especially the stupid ones whom are of the pseudo-Liberal/Left-wing delusions. Islam has a goal of global conversion of all humans and lands to Islam and any that were once conquered and converted/ruled by Sharia must be returned to that status.

Hence,as far as Islam/Muslims/'Arabs' are concerned, their is only one solution to "Israel" and that is a return of that land into the fold of the Dar El-Islam, the Land/Rule of Islam.

The concept of Taquayya allows for deception of diplomacy to provide lip-service to the "existence" of Israel, but ultimately the land of Israel mus be returned to the Ream/Rule of Islam, as it was once before.

You'll need to substantiate "who" interprets things in the way you're describing, but I'm convinced that many Muslims don't.

Israel will only be secure and safe once the dogma of Islam is invalidated. Or the religion of Islam is purged from the planet Earth.
Since the goal of Islam is global conversion to that religion, the Earth is only safe and offered Peace if Islam is purged or eradicated. !!!

Fearmongering nonsense. I would say, in America, if we look at statistics, that those who engage in racist violence are a bigger daily threat to the lives of Americans, for example.

 

[Stryder50]

Doesn't matter. Freedom of religion allows people to attempt to convert others to their religion. I see no reason to believe that the average Muslim is attempting to impose Sharia Law on people, or has any chance of doing so. Nor am I convinced that things are or have to be interpreted in the way you describe.


You'll need to substantiate "who" interprets things in the way you're describing, but I'm convinced that many Muslims don't.


Fearmongering nonsense. I would say, in America, if we look at statistics, that those who engage in racist violence are a bigger daily threat to the lives of Americans, for example.

Fairly clear you have vast ignorance of history, especially global and going back several centuries.
You also are ignorant of the diversity of religions it would seem. Talking one's ears off isn't the same as cutting them off, which is one many ways Islam parts with most religions.
I'm not here to make up your deficit in learning and general education.
This is about all your post/response is worth since your ignorance level has depths I've no interest in filling.
Try learning something in the next half of your lifetime, if you live that long.
Meanwhile, your delusions may be exceeding your ignorance.

 

[GLASNOST]

The 9-11 terrorists did not represent a country they represented an ideology...

It's a toss-up if they were fighting for something or against something. Both are legitimate gripes in their own right.

the same Ideology that attacked Israel on Oct 7th...

the same toss-up. They might have been pro-Palestine, pro-Islam, or anti-Zionist. All three are legitimate gripes in their own right.

what will it take to wake you fools up?...

what will it take to wake you imbeciles up?

 

[Midnight FM]

Fairly clear you have vast ignorance of history, especially global and going back several centuries.
You also are ignorant of the diversity of religions it would seem. Talking one's ears off isn't the same as cutting them off, which is one many ways Islam parts with most religions.

No, I'm aware that many who identify as Muslims don't necessarily interpret things the way you're insisting. Most of them aren't cutting people's ears off, or attempting to impose an ancient form of Sharia Law on the population, and plenty of them are law-abiding citizens. There's quite a bit of diversity within Islam and its varying sects, apparently.

I'm not here to make up your deficit in learning and general education.
This is about all your post/response is worth since your ignorance level has depths I've no interest in filling.
Try learning something in the next half of your lifetime, if you live that long.
Meanwhile, your delusions may be exceeding your ignorance.

I'm pretty uninterested in the rubbish your spewing. There simply isn't a reason that a sane and reasonable person would live in constant fear and paranoia of a minority of Muslims, when Neo-Nazis, for example, are far more of a threat to them in daily life.

 

[multivita-man]

Zionism is "All Jews" and also "Israel".

Zion, the land we know as Israel (and near by parts of the Levant) was a major part of the Pact/Covenant Abraham made with YHWH in forming the 'Hebrew' 'Ethnic'/Religion. The land of Zion/Israel/"Levant" along with the dogma and diet/lifestyle rules are all part of the Pact/Covenant that makes up the Hebrews/Jews.

A similar is the Constitution of the USA, which defines, the land/nation, the politics, and the ethnicity of (U.S. of)America/Americans.

One cannot separate a true, real (US)American from the Constitution. Constitutionalists are not separable from Americans. By definition, to be an (U.S. of) American is also a Constitutionalist.

Similar, to be a Jew is to be a Zionist.

Nope.

 

[multivita-man]

You get dumber by the minute.

Arabs~Muslims seek only one type of "normal relations" with any other nation and that is eventual conversion to Islam and Sharia. Anything else is just a delaying and subterfuge tactic to deceive and mislead the infidel towards the eventual conversion to Islam.

Looked in the mirror lately? lol

You have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to think that the origins of the conflict are religious. They're only religious to the extent that Jews from Europe decided they weren't safe in Europe (with good reason) and decided to mass migrate into a weakening Ottoman Empire to form their own religious ethno-state. In forming Israel, they displaced not only Muslims, but also Christians and even the occasional non-Zionist Jew. You have no idea what this conflict is about. Maybe have a cup of shut-the-****-up with your breakfast this morning.