Apartheid Israel

[georgephillip]

1.35 million Arabs living in Palestine in 1948.
160,000 Arabs living in Palestine in 1949.

That's voting with your feet.

Arabs did not own any land. There was no state. They had no voting rights.

Are only land owners entitled to vote in your "democracy"?

 

[Marc39]

1.35 million Arabs living in Palestine in 1948.
160,000 Arabs living in Palestine in 1949.

That's voting with your feet.

Arabs did not own any land. There was no state. They had no voting rights.

Are only land owners entitled to vote in your "democracy"?

There are no democracies in the Middle East, except, Israel, nor have there ever been in history.

 

[georgephillip]

Glad you brought up democracy:

"Given that American taxpayers, even during recessions in which thousands of Americans are thrown out of work, have long given Israel far more of our tax money than to any other nation on earth – currently about $7 million per day – it is highly appropriate that we examine the target of our truly inordinate generosity...

"First, he (Rabbi Mitchell Hurvitz) starts out by quoting the First Amendment of the US Constitution: 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...'

"It is strange that an Israel advocate should draw attention to this bedrock principle of democracy, since Israel violates it so systematically.

"Israel is a self-defined 'Jewish state' in which non-Jews (i.e. the Christians and Muslims who made up a majority of the population in this land until recently, and still make up almost twenty percent of the population) are second-class citizens, at best."

"While US media almost never report this, the fact is that their religions are routinely disparaged, their economic situation is far inferior, their children are taught in school that Jewish culture is superior to all others, and periodically there are outright attacks on their institutions and texts -- in 1980 hundreds of copies of the New Testament were publicly and ceremonially burnt in Jerusalem under the auspices of a Jewish organization subsidized by the Israeli Ministry of Religions.

"Today, thousands of Muslims and Christians under Israeli occupation are prevented from worshiping in their holiest churches and mosques."

Only porcine propagandists and rhymes-with-rich hacks would look at the Jewish State of Israel and see a democracy.

What Our Taxes...

 

[docmauser1]

"Given that American taxpayers,

Those, who doesn't pay US taxes, tend to thump them most, of course.

even during recessions in which thousands of Americans are thrown out of work,

Those, who doesn't care about the US worker, thump the issue most, of course. The web fact.

have long given Israel far more of our tax money than to any other nation on earth – currently about $7 million per day

Oh, about same the South Korea gets, and the latter isn't too keen on buying american too. There goes all wailing about the "american worker-taxpayer".

– it is highly appropriate that we examine the target of our truly inordinate generosity...

Why won't my fans here dispense with silly excuses and be men, and admit they just hate joos out of the bottomest of the bottoms of their hearts and would very much like to see all joos dead?

 

[georgephillip]

What experience have you had with "being a man?"

Reading Hemingway?

Burning copies of the New Testament in Jerusalem?

Explaining why Jewish culture is superior to all others?

Looking for the last day South Korea received $7 million US tax dollars?

All of the above?

None of the above?

 

[docmauser1]

What experience have you had with "being a man?" Reading Hemingway? Burning copies of the New Testament in Jerusalem? Explaining why Jewish culture is superior to all others? Looking for the last day South Korea received $7 million US tax dollars? All of the above? None of the above?

An unemployed psychoanalist? Funny way of weaseling out, of course, by getting personal, driveling, etc..

 

[georgephillip]

So...why is Jewish culture superior to all others?

What makes a Jew superior to an Arab?

Besides the $7 million US tax dollars every day.

Weasel away, doc.

 

[Jroc]

What experience have you had with "being a man?"

Reading Hemingway?

Burning copies of the New Testament in Jerusalem?

Explaining why Jewish culture is superior to all others?

Looking for the last day South Korea received $7 million US tax dollars?

All of the above?

None of the above?

Is you're name really mohamed? Ahmed? ALI? Why are you so upsessed with you're Jew hatred? Do you ever post on any other subject? Wat exactly is it with you? are you just a lunitic?

 

[georgephillip]

Good questions.
You are right.
Lately I've been obsessed with this subject.
Here's why.

In 1955 one of the most famous humans (and Jews) who ever lived, Albert Einstein, and Bertrand Russell wrote a letter to the world putting forth a choice "stark and dreadful and inescapable: shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?"

War is a Racket today, earning billions of dollars in profits while devastating millions of (mostly) innocent lives from Gaza to the Great Lakes.

The Jewish State of Israel (not all Jews) and Wall Street are at the financial heart of the War Racket. Seven million US taxpayer dollars go to Israel every day of every year to feed the Racket.

Israel also controls over 240 illegal nuclear weapons AND their delivery systems, land, air, and submarine.

You don't have to be Einstein or Russell or Noam Chomsky to see what's coming if the War Racket isn't neutered.

That starts with ending US support for the Jewish State of Israel.

Copyright 2006 Failed States by Noam Chomsky P.3.

 

[docmauser1]

Good questions. You are right. Lately I've been obsessed with this subject. Here's why.

Because Chomskin is full of gumbass moronities, which my fans here, naturally, associate with and absorb.

 

[georgephillip]

"IOA: Arab allies of the US remain committed to the Arab League peace initiative. Is a settlement along these lines -- a Two-State solution, based on the 1967 borders -- consistent with US interests in the region? If so, what is stopping the United States from actually applying pressure on Israel, and not just talking about peace?

NC: The Arab initiative reiterates the longstanding international consensus and goes beyond, calling also for normalization of relations.

"It is accepted by virtually the entire world, including Iran.

"Would this be consistent with US interests? It depends on how we understand the phrase 'US interests.'

"In general, it is well to bear in mind that the concept 'national interest' is a rather mystical one.

"There are some shared interests among the population: not to be destroyed by nuclear weapons, for example.

"But on a great many issues interests differ sharply.

"The interests of the CEO are not the same as those of the woman who cleans his office."

"The interests of the huge mass of Christian Zionists or those allied with AIPAC are quite different from yours and mine." (Speaking of "gumbass moronities")

"It should hardly be controversial that the operative 'national interest' is largely determined by those who control the domestic economy, an observation as old as Adam Smith and amply confirmed since.

"They seem quite satisfied with US rejectionism.

"In the media, the most fervent supporter of Israeli actions is the Wall Street Journal, the journal of the business world.

"Though Jews mostly vote for and fund Democrats, the Republican Party is even more extreme than the Democrats in support for Israeli actions, and is even closer to the business community.

"High tech industry maintains close ties with its Israeli counterparts, and investment continues.

"For military industry, Israel is a double bonanza: it sells advanced armaments to Israel (courtesy of the US taxpayer) and that induces Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Emirates to purchase a flood of weapons, less advanced, helping to recycle petrodollars and contributing to profits.

"Close intelligence connections go back to the 1950s.

"There seems to be no significant domestic force pressing Washington to join the world on this issue. A popular movement might make a difference, but for the present it is too weak and disunited to weigh significantly in the balance.

"Our primary task should be to change that."

Chomsky is regarded as the 8th most widely quoted author in history.

Where do you place on that list?

Israel's War Against...

 

[Jroc]

Good questions.
You are right.
Lately I've been obsessed with this subject.
Here's why.

In 1955 one of the most famous humans (and Jews) who ever lived, Albert Einstein, and Bertrand Russell wrote a letter to the world putting forth a choice "stark and dreadful and inescapable: shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?"

War is a Racket today, earning billions of dollars in profits while devastating millions of (mostly) innocent lives from Gaza to the Great Lakes.

The Jewish State of Israel (not all Jews) and Wall Street are at the financial heart of the War Racket. Seven million US taxpayer dollars go to Israel every day of every year to feed the Racket.

Israel also controls over 240 illegal nuclear weapons AND their delivery systems, land, air, and submarine.

You don't have to be Einstein or Russell or Noam Chomsky to see what's coming if the War Racket isn't neutered.

That starts with ending US support for the Jewish State of Israel.

Copyright 2006 Failed States by Noam Chomsky P.3.

War is the Choice of the Arabs not the Jews and look were its gotten them, The so called "Palestinians" are only pawns, slaves to the rest of the Arab muslims who want Israel gone and all the Jews dead if they had it thier way

" When the Arabs love thier children more then they hate the Jews there will be peace"

Golda Meir

 

[Jroc]

So...why is Jewish culture superior to all others?

What makes a Jew superior to an Arab?

Besides the $7 million US tax dollars every day.

Weasel away, doc.

The muslim Arabs are stuck in the 7th century, Jews and Christians are not, thats why thier societies are far superior to muslims

 

[MelissaD]

So...why is Jewish culture superior to all others?

What makes a Jew superior to an Arab?

Besides the $7 million US tax dollars every day.

Weasel away, doc.

The muslim Arabs are stuck in the 7th century, Jews and Christians are not, thats why thier societies are far superior to muslims

So when Iran gets some nukes, what century will they be in then? I say you guys should make peace with the arabs now before it's too late.

 

[georgephillip]

Good questions.
You are right.
Lately I've been obsessed with this subject.
Here's why.

In 1955 one of the most famous humans (and Jews) who ever lived, Albert Einstein, and Bertrand Russell wrote a letter to the world putting forth a choice "stark and dreadful and inescapable: shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?"

War is a Racket today, earning billions of dollars in profits while devastating millions of (mostly) innocent lives from Gaza to the Great Lakes.

The Jewish State of Israel (not all Jews) and Wall Street are at the financial heart of the War Racket. Seven million US taxpayer dollars go to Israel every day of every year to feed the Racket.

Israel also controls over 240 illegal nuclear weapons AND their delivery systems, land, air, and submarine.

You don't have to be Einstein or Russell or Noam Chomsky to see what's coming if the War Racket isn't neutered.

That starts with ending US support for the Jewish State of Israel.

Copyright 2006 Failed States by Noam Chomsky P.3.

War is the Choice of the Arabs not the Jews and look were its gotten them, The so called "Palestinians" are only pawns, slaves to the rest of the Arab muslims who want Israel gone and all the Jews dead if they had it thier way

" When the Arabs love thier children more then they hate the Jews there will be peace"

Golda Meir

It's my understanding that only one time, in 1973, did Arabs attack Israel first. It's certainly clear in 1948 who launched the first assaults:

"Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Arab citizens of Israel have had to struggle for their basic civil and political rights.

"In 1948, the area that became Israel was inhabited by 900,000 Palestinian Arabs2.

"After the war of 1948 and the establishment of the State of Israel, some 770,000-780,000 (86%)3 of this population was displaced from their homes and expelled from Israel, to become refugees in neighboring Arab states.

"In addition, tens of thousands of Palestinian Arabs were displaced from their homes to other locations within the borders of Israel, becoming refugees within the State of Israel.

"Those Arabs who remained within the borders of Israel found that virtually overnight they had become a minority in a Jewish State..."

"Each Israeli government has held a different stand on the Arab population, but no Israeli government has ever officially recognized the population as a valid national minority.

"Israel’s leaders reflect the lack of recognition, from David Ben Gurion, who stated that Arabs should be permitted to stay in Israel 'to serve as water carriers', to Golda Meir, who declared that 'there is no such thing as Palestinians.'"5

Social, Economic and Political...

If you find Noam Chomsky a credible source, you'll want to consider the possibility that Arabs proposed a Peace Plan in January of 1976 that the US and Israel have been rejecting ever since.

"The fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict grinds on without resolution might appear to be rather strange. For many of the world's conflicts, it is difficult even to conjure up a feasible settlement.

"In this case, it is not only possible, but there is near universal agreement on its basic contours: a two-state settlement along the internationally recognized (pre-June 1967) borders -- with 'minor and mutual modifications,' to adopt official U.S. terminology before Washington departed from the international community in the mid-1970s.

"The basic principles have been accepted by virtually the entire world, including the Arab states (who go on to call for full normalization of relations), the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran), and relevant non-state actors (including Hamas).

"A settlement along these lines was first proposed at the U.N. Security Council in January 1976 by the major Arab states.

"Israel refused to attend the session.

"The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980.

"The record at the General Assembly since is similar."

A Middle East Peace...

 

[docmauser1]

So...why is Jewish culture superior to all others? What makes a Jew superior to an Arab?

My faithful judophobes here, of course. They don't talk about arabs. Heh.

 

[docmauser1]

So when Iran gets some nukes, what century will they be in then?

Same backward, same backward century, of course.

I say you guys should make peace with the arabs now before it's too late.

Before arabs and their palestinian® strain finally self-destruct and their oil with them, that is. Well, their islamic culture-cult demands sacrifices, 72 virgins and all that islamo-jihadodrivel. So sad.

 

[MelissaD]

So when Iran gets some nukes, what century will they be in then?

Same backward, same backward century, of course.

I say you guys should make peace with the arabs now before it's too late.

Before arabs and their palestinian® strain finally self-destruct and their oil with them, that is. Well, their islamic culture-cult demands sacrifices, 72 virgins and all that islamo-jihadodrivel. So sad.

That's ok son, we don't expect you to make sense. It's hard to apologize for israel and still keep some common sense.

 

[docmauser1]

So when Iran gets some nukes, what century will they be in then?

Same backward, same backward century, of course.

I say you guys should make peace with the arabs now before it's too late.

Before arabs and their palestinian® strain finally self-destruct and their oil with them, that is. Well, their islamic culture-cult demands sacrifices, 72 virgins and all that islamo-jihadodrivel. So sad.

That's ok son, we don't expect you to make sense. It's hard to apologize for israel and still keep some common sense.

Poor me, I was apologizing for arabs, and that didn't make sense, indeed.

 

[georgephillip]

"From Afrikaans apartheid...literally 'separateness', apartness..."

apartheid - Wiki

The belligerent occupation Israel inflicts on Gaza and the West Bank and Arab Jerusalem works to separate Arabs from their human rights the same way South Africa's policy of racial separation disenfranchised blacks in that country between 1948 to 1990.

It's not as if International Law and UNSC Resolution 1322 aren't clear.

"Belligerent occupation is governed by The Hague Regulations of 1907, as well as by the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, and the customary laws of belligerent occupation.

"Security Council Resolution 1322 (2000), paragraph 3 continued: 'Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and its responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in a Time of War of 12 August 1949;...' Again, the Security Council vote was 14 to 0, becoming obligatory international law.

"The Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the West Bank, to the Gaza Strip, and to the entire City of Jerusalem, in order to protect the Palestinians living there.

"The Palestinian People living in this Palestinian Land are 'protected persons' within the meaning of the Fourth Geneva Convention. All of their rights are sacred under international law."

The fact Israel routinely violates virtually all of the 149 substantive articles of GCIV that protect the rights of every non-Jew living in occupied Palestine, constitutes serial war crimes and apartheid.

International Law...