Anything is strange in the Ukraine war

[Baron]

Anything is strange in the Ukraine war, from the start until the current situation. The only logical explanation would be Biden and Putin work together to destroy Europe.
Only fool can't understand without cheap energy from Russia any manufacturing in Europe becomes extremely expensive, at first the German one.
The logical consequence: Industry in Europe will die
Neither USA nor Russia nor China need Europe in the 21st century.
Before blame my thread ask yourself who benefits from any Russian or Ukrainian step in the last 4 months?
I can't remember Europa has got one point in any question.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

The only good Russian soldier, is a dead Russian soldier. To weaken the Russian state is to benefit the United States. Russia is a world superpower, and we are too. Bogging down Russia in a useless war only helps us stay ahead as a superpower.

 

[MisterBeale]

The only logical explanation would be Biden and Putin work together to destroy Europe.

Good chance of it.

War would end in a week or two, of Russia withdrew oil from Europe. Even JP Morgan has admitted as much. None of this makes any sense to intelligent folks.

Putin need not launch a nuke, nor does there NEED to be a military escalation to end this. . . unless all the global oligarchs really ARE conspiring on this, and the whole war is orchestrated to begin with. In which case, every last one of them, all the world's leaders and CEO's need to be hung or executed.

JPMorgan Sees ‘Stratospheric’ $380 Oil on Worst-Case Russian Cut​

JPMorgan Sees ‘Stratospheric’ $380 Oil on Worst-Case Russian Cut

(Bloomberg) -- Global oil prices could reach a “stratospheric” $380 a barrel if US and European penalties prompt Russia to inflict retaliatory crude-output cuts, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts warned.Most Read from BloombergBezos Slams Biden Over Call for Lowering of Gas PricesUS Court Ruling May...

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The Kremlin’s Hesitancy and Prevarication Is a Road to War​

The Kremlin’s Hesitancy and Prevarication Is a Road to War |

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". . . Europe has made it publicly clear that it intends to be 100% independent of Russian oil and gas within 3 years, and in the meantime intends to cap the price of Russian oil at half its current price. So why is the Kremlin continuing to supply Europe with energy, without which European industry simply must close down, when Europe intends to punish Russia by spurning her energy while cutting its price? Has it not yet occurred to the Kremlin that it is the energy that the Kremlin is supplying to Europe that is making it possible for Europe to flood Ukraine with weapons? The Kremlin’s policy seems designed to demoralize Russia’s armed forces.

Why hasn’t the Kremlin terminated all energy flows to Europe? Why does the Kremlin sell the West the energy with which to carry on its war with Russia? JPMorganChase says if Russia cut its oil exports by five million barrels, the oil price would rise to $380 per barrel. JP Morgan sounds alarm over oil price prospects

Why doesn’t Russia do it? Europe would immediately and totally collapse. The conflict in Ukraine would instantly end. The Kremlin could tell the Europeans that energy would reappear when Europe exits NATO. As I have previously written, the Kremlin holds all the cards but is not competent to play them.

What explains this stupidity? Russian soldiers are dying and the Kremlin is supplying the enemy with energy. I believe that the problem is that the Kremlin has a mystical belief in legalism. The Kremlin, playing goody two shoes, is trying to impress the West by showing how Russia, unlike the West, respects contracts and agreements with her enemies even when she is at war with them. It is extraordinary that the Kremlin thinks this makes any impression on the West other than a demonstration of Russian stupidity and weakness.

Consider Lithuania’s blockade of Kaliningrad, a part of Russia separated from the main geographical part of Russia. Russia complained but has done nothing. The governor of Kaliningrad said that Moscow could collapse the Lithuanian economy by counter sanctions on goods coming in and out of Baltic states. “Russia could make half of the Lithuanian economy disappear,” he said. Instead, the Kremlin emanates more confusion and hesitancy which invites more provocations.

The Kremlin back-peddles so much that the West simply does not take Russia seriously. How many times have we heard Foreign Minister Lavrov and other high ranking members of the Russian government, including Putin, say that the West is seeking to destroy Russia, that Russia will never again trust the West, that the West keeps no agreements that it makes with Russia? So why is Kremlin spokesman Peskov publicly moaning that western leaders are not interested in achieving peace in Ukraine through dialogue and negotiations. West bars Kiev from thinking about peace – Kremlin Does the Kremlin really want another worthless Minsk Agreement, another agreement not to move NATO to Russia’s border? Has the Kremlin already abandoned the reason it sent military forces into Donbass–to deNazify, demilitarize, and neutralize Ukraine? Is what Russia was going to do by force now to be negotiated?

Maybe the Western whore media is correct. Ukraine is winning.

My patriotic readers are probably wondering why I am chastising the Kremlin for setting Russia up for defeat, not of course in Donbass but on the wider scene. Whose side is Roberts on? I am on the side of avoiding a wider war that will end in nuclear war. Both Washington and the Kremlin are making mistakes that will result in nuclear war. Washington pushed by neoconservative ideology is intent on hegemony and in pursuit of hegemony crosses Russian red lines. By not enforcing her red lines, Russia encourages more provocations. In effect, as I have explained, Russia’s tolerance of provocations results in more provocations. Washington no longer believes that there are any Russian red lines. This is a mistaken belief, but it is an operative one, and it is the Kremlin’s fault. . . ."

 

[MisterBeale]

The only good Russian soldier, is a dead Russian soldier. To weaken the Russian state is to benefit the United States. Russia is a world superpower, and we are too. Bogging down Russia in a useless war only helps us stay ahead as a superpower.

You consume too much corporate TEE VEE and establishment propaganda, do too little reading and have never been taught genuine critical thinking.

 

[Baron]

Good chance of it.

War would end in a week or two, of Russia withdrew oil from Europe. Even JP Morgan has admitted as much. None of this makes any sense to intelligent folks.

Putin need not launch a nuke, nor does there NEED to be a military escalation to end this. . . unless all the global oligarchs really ARE conspiring on this, and the whole war is orchestrated to begin with. In which case, every last one of them, all the world's leaders and CEO's need to be hung or executed.

JPMorgan Sees ‘Stratospheric’ $380 Oil on Worst-Case Russian Cut​

JPMorgan Sees ‘Stratospheric’ $380 Oil on Worst-Case Russian Cut

(Bloomberg) -- Global oil prices could reach a “stratospheric” $380 a barrel if US and European penalties prompt Russia to inflict retaliatory crude-output cuts, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts warned.Most Read from BloombergBezos Slams Biden Over Call for Lowering of Gas PricesUS Court Ruling May...

finance.yahoo.com

The Kremlin’s Hesitancy and Prevarication Is a Road to War​

The Kremlin’s Hesitancy and Prevarication Is a Road to War |

www.paulcraigroberts.org

". . . Europe has made it publicly clear that it intends to be 100% independent of Russian oil and gas within 3 years, and in the meantime intends to cap the price of Russian oil at half its current price. So why is the Kremlin continuing to supply Europe with energy, without which European industry simply must close down, when Europe intends to punish Russia by spurning her energy while cutting its price? Has it not yet occurred to the Kremlin that it is the energy that the Kremlin is supplying to Europe that is making it possible for Europe to flood Ukraine with weapons? The Kremlin’s policy seems designed to demoralize Russia’s armed forces.

Why hasn’t the Kremlin terminated all energy flows to Europe? Why does the Kremlin sell the West the energy with which to carry on its war with Russia? JPMorganChase says if Russia cut its oil exports by five million barrels, the oil price would rise to $380 per barrel. JP Morgan sounds alarm over oil price prospects

Why doesn’t Russia do it? Europe would immediately and totally collapse. The conflict in Ukraine would instantly end. The Kremlin could tell the Europeans that energy would reappear when Europe exits NATO. As I have previously written, the Kremlin holds all the cards but is not competent to play them.

What explains this stupidity? Russian soldiers are dying and the Kremlin is supplying the enemy with energy. I believe that the problem is that the Kremlin has a mystical belief in legalism. The Kremlin, playing goody two shoes, is trying to impress the West by showing how Russia, unlike the West, respects contracts and agreements with her enemies even when she is at war with them. It is extraordinary that the Kremlin thinks this makes any impression on the West other than a demonstration of Russian stupidity and weakness.

Consider Lithuania’s blockade of Kaliningrad, a part of Russia separated from the main geographical part of Russia. Russia complained but has done nothing. The governor of Kaliningrad said that Moscow could collapse the Lithuanian economy by counter sanctions on goods coming in and out of Baltic states. “Russia could make half of the Lithuanian economy disappear,” he said. Instead, the Kremlin emanates more confusion and hesitancy which invites more provocations.

The Kremlin back-peddles so much that the West simply does not take Russia seriously. How many times have we heard Foreign Minister Lavrov and other high ranking members of the Russian government, including Putin, say that the West is seeking to destroy Russia, that Russia will never again trust the West, that the West keeps no agreements that it makes with Russia? So why is Kremlin spokesman Peskov publicly moaning that western leaders are not interested in achieving peace in Ukraine through dialogue and negotiations. West bars Kiev from thinking about peace – Kremlin Does the Kremlin really want another worthless Minsk Agreement, another agreement not to move NATO to Russia’s border? Has the Kremlin already abandoned the reason it sent military forces into Donbass–to deNazify, demilitarize, and neutralize Ukraine? Is what Russia was going to do by force now to be negotiated?

Maybe the Western whore media is correct. Ukraine is winning.

My patriotic readers are probably wondering why I am chastising the Kremlin for setting Russia up for defeat, not of course in Donbass but on the wider scene. Whose side is Roberts on? I am on the side of avoiding a wider war that will end in nuclear war. Both Washington and the Kremlin are making mistakes that will result in nuclear war. Washington pushed by neoconservative ideology is intent on hegemony and in pursuit of hegemony crosses Russian red lines. By not enforcing her red lines, Russia encourages more provocations. In effect, as I have explained, Russia’s tolerance of provocations results in more provocations. Washington no longer believes that there are any Russian red lines. This is a mistaken belief, but it is an operative one, and it is the Kremlin’s fault. . . ."

That's completely idiotic, we're teetering on the verge to completely annihilation and no one can't grasp it

 

[Confederate Soldier]

You consume too much corporate TEE VEE and establishment propaganda, do too little reading and have never been taught genuine critical thinking.

And you are obviously not a nationalist.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Anything is strange in the Ukraine war, from the start until the current situation. The only logical explanation would be Biden and Putin work together to destroy Europe.
Only fool can't understand without cheap energy from Russia any manufacturing in Europe becomes extremely expensive, at first the German one.
The logical consequence: Industry in Europe will die
Neither USA nor Russia nor China need Europe in the 21st century.
Before blame my thread ask yourself who benefits from any Russian or Ukrainian step in the last 4 months?
I can't remember Europa has got one point in any question.

That is the story Putin is trying to sell, but if Russia cuts off the gas pipeline Europe will be forced to find other sources of energy to replace it and Russia will have lost that revenue stream forever.

The question is not whether Europe will survive but whether Russia will survive Putin. Because of the sanctions, the Russian economy is projected to shrink by almost 10% this year and unemployment is projected to doble; inflation in Russia is nearly 18% and Russia is already passing emergency economic laws because its military industries are not producing enough weapons and ammunition to sustain Putin's war in Ukraine. The sanctions will not end and the Russian economy will not recover, and Putin will have left the Russian economy just a shriveled husk of what it was before this war.

 

[Baron]

The question is not whether Europe will survive but whether Russia will survive Putin.

Don't think Russia receives a new Gorbachev after Putin
The choice would be between Kadirov and Stalin 2.0

 

[gipper]

And you are obviously not a nationalist.

It’s best to always unthinkingly support the State. They know best and you’re just a dumb serf.

Heil Hitler!!!!!

 

[MisterBeale]

And you are obviously not a nationalist.

 

[Baron]

The Christian White Anti-Globalist nationalism is the only one which is highly actual today.
We whites are a small minority in the hostile to us world today
It's stupid to fight each other now, we shall be united

 

[toomuchtime_]

Don't think Russia receives a new Gorbachev after Putin
The choice would be between Kadirov and Stalin 2.0

The Russian economy is already straining and creaking and it will break no matter which sociopath is in charge.

 

[Baron]

The Russian economy is already straining and creaking and it will break no matter which sociopath is in charge.

LOl
Who says it?

 

[toomuchtime_]

LOl
Who says it?

The Russian Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister.

"Mihail Mishustin, Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, admitted to a « certain slump » in the Russian economy in the fifth month of Russia’s war against Ukraine and of Western sanctions against Russia."

Russian Prime Minister admits to certain slump in Russian economy - US Sports

ROMAN PETRENKO – MONDAY, JULY 4, 2022, 9:45 PM Mihail Mishustin, Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, admitted to a

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RUSSIAN lawmakers on Tuesday (July 5) gave the first stamp of approval to 2 Bills that would authorise the government to oblige businesses to supply the military with goods and their employees to work overtime to support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told Parliament the moves were driven by the need to support the military at a time when Russia’s economy was under “colossal sanctions pressure” from the West, more than four months into what it calls its special military operation in Ukraine.

“The load on the defence industry has increased significantly. In order to guarantee the supply of weapons and ammunition, it is necessary to optimise the work of the military-industrial complex and enterprises that are part of cooperation chains,” he said.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/russian-parliament-passes-first-vote-on-war-economy-measures

In addition, the Russian economy is projected to contract by 12.4% and unemployment to double while inflation stands at nearly 18%. How stupid does Putin have to be to think Russia's feeble little economy could withstand economic pressure from the world's richest nations?

 

[Confederate Soldier]

It’s best to always unthinkingly support the State. They know best and you’re just a dumb serf.

Heil Hitler!!!!!

And you support a lawless anarchy.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

The Christian White Anti-Globalist nationalism is the only one which is highly actual today.
We whites are a small minority in the hostile to us world today
It's stupid to fight each other now, we shall be united

Your cause is a farce.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

And George Orwell supported communism. So he obviously was not very bright.

 

[gipper]

And you support a lawless anarchy.

I‘ll take anarchy any day over the dumb authoritarian shit you support.

 

[gipper]

And George Orwell supported communism. So he obviously was not very bright.

A closed ignorant mind is a terrible thing to witness.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

I‘ll take anarchy any day over the dumb authoritarian shit you support.

You have no clue what I want. I want a smaller federal government, subservient to the states, and a strict adherence to the constitution on state and federal levels.


You want lawless animalistic human bandits.