Anyone Still Believing in the Evolution Fraud Should Watch This

But in the end, they were still fruit flies.
Chicken or the Egg: You do know what came first, don't you?

Obviously, the egg. Science. Evolution. Over generations some bird like creature evolves. Genetic changes over a long time. The bird that lays the chicken egg, looks like a chicken, but many generations before would not have looked like a chicken.

The chicken does not spontaneously appear.
 
But in the end, they were still fruit flies.

This is the chicken and the egg story, isn't it?

Which came first?

The logical thing to say is the egg, because dinosaurs had eggs. But that's not the point of the whole the chicken and the egg thing.

The reality is we give labels to things that are constantly changing. At some point we see that this one a long time ago, and this one now, are different.

Homo Sapiens were not always Homo Sapiens, but some other Homo ******

At no point did a Homo Erectus give birth to a Homo Sapien. You can't see the changes in a small period of time, you see it by comparing this age, with that age....

So, before chickens there was something else, but at no point did a non-chicken give birth to a chicken.
 
I have thoughts on evolution, but I doubt they'd be considered "original." Do you imagine you have original thoughts on most common subjects?

Maybe somebody ought to put forward your name for a MacArthur Grant.
Absolutely.
 
Chickenshit that you are: "This member limits who may view their full profile." LOL

I believe you've evolved. From what into what is an open question.

Do you know about the "granite monolith found on earth's moon?"
No. Do you know about punctuated equilibrium?
 
One could argue persuasively for a First Cause. Can you prove beyond a showdow of doubt that it was your version of this First Cause that is responsible for everything?
 
Go on then, show your debunking.


Here's some of my evidence that we can see evolution.


"That's the focus of a new study by a Florida State University researcher who raised 200 generations of fruit flies to examine how they changed both in the short and long term. What he found was quite surprising."

"Fruit flies are considered an ideal species for scientists to investigate unsolved problems in evolution and genetics because it is easy to breed more than 20 generations each year. Their wings are also easy to measure, so scientists can easily identify even small changes."

"Houle then raised 200 generations of fruit flies -- it takes four years to breed that many generations -- and then individually raised some of the flies to see what, if any, changes occurred in the wings of the flies. In total, the researchers measured more than 50,000 fly wings in the course of this study and found changes in the overall shape of the wing, such as the ratio of width to length and vein locations."

What you got?
Humans vary in appearance more than fruit flies from generation to generation, yet there is no evidence of evolution.
 
Irrelevant.

Scientists have already created brand new species in the laboratory. It's old news.

Your objection is moot.
I know. I see some of their monstrosities at the dog shows.
 
Chicken or the Egg: You do know what came first, don't you?

Obviously, the egg. Science. Evolution. Over generations some bird like creature evolves. Genetic changes over a long time. The bird that lays the chicken egg, looks like a chicken, but many generations before would not have looked like a chicken.

The chicken does not spontaneously appear.
The creation story suggests that the chicken was created with the ability to reproduce by laying eggs.
 
How much of a percentage is the difference?
Huge at birth. My son weighed 9 pounds 15 oz., my daughter was just under 8 pounds. He is now 6' 3", she 5' 7". My grandson is now 6' 6", granddaughter 5' 6". Also, each has different facial and physical features, as does everyone else I know.

I have seen thousands of fruit flies and none exhibited such differences.
 
Huge at birth. My son weighed 9 pounds 15 oz., my daughter was just under 8 pounds. He is now 6' 3", she 5' 7". My grandson is now 6' 6", granddaughter 5' 6". Also, each has different facial and physical features, as does everyone else I know.

I have seen thousands of fruit flies and none exhibited such differences.
You only observed them and never measured their height or weight, what kind of scientist are yous?
 
Uhm...

Who would have thought about God as an apt topic for an essay about mathematics? Don’t worry, the following discussion is still solidly grounded within an intelligible scientific framework. But the question of whether God can be proved mathematically is intriguing. In fact, over the centuries, several mathematicians have repeatedly tried to prove the existence of a divine being. They range from Blaise Pascal and René Descartes (in the 17th century) to Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (in the 18th century) to Kurt Gödel (in the 20th century), whose writings on the subject were published as recently as 1987. And probably the most amazing thing: in a preprint study first posted in 2013 an algorithmic proof wizard checked Gödel’s logical chain of reasoning—and found it to be undoubtedly correct. Has mathematics now finally disproved the claims of all atheists?

As you probably already suspect, it has not. Gödel was indeed able to prove that the existence of something, which he defined as divine, necessarily follows from certain assumptions. But whether these assumptions are justified can be called into doubt. For example, if I assume that all cats are tricolored and know that tricolored cats are almost always female, then I can conclude: almost all cats are female. Even if the logical reasoning is correct, this of course does not hold. For the very assumption that all cats are tricolored is false. If one makes statements about observable things in our environment, such as cats, one can verify them by scientific investigations. But if it is about the proof of a divine existence, the matter becomes a little more complicated.

That's extremely interesting, never knew about this.
 
Go on then, show your debunking.


Here's some of my evidence that we can see evolution.


"That's the focus of a new study by a Florida State University researcher who raised 200 generations of fruit flies to examine how they changed both in the short and long term. What he found was quite surprising."

"Fruit flies are considered an ideal species for scientists to investigate unsolved problems in evolution and genetics because it is easy to breed more than 20 generations each year. Their wings are also easy to measure, so scientists can easily identify even small changes."

"Houle then raised 200 generations of fruit flies -- it takes four years to breed that many generations -- and then individually raised some of the flies to see what, if any, changes occurred in the wings of the flies. In total, the researchers measured more than 50,000 fly wings in the course of this study and found changes in the overall shape of the wing, such as the ratio of width to length and vein locations."

What you got?

It must be understood that these kinds of experiments involve human intelligence, the experiments are guided by humans, how to show that the same result would arise without human involvement?
 
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