Anyone have Suddenlink cable?

[Lakhota]

Suddenlink recently dropped 24 Viacom channels and gave us shit as replacements - with no reduction in cable bills. I ain't happy.

Home Page - Keep Viacom

Get the facts on why Suddenlink dropped Viacom - Keep Viacom

 

[MarcATL]

You know, Lakotha, I was just having a lovely conversation with my pops earlier tonight about the cable industry.

I was telling him about how HBO will be offering a new stand-alone package starting next year and explaining to him how it's the best thing since slice bread for the consumer. I explained to him that this move is the first step in breaking the backs of the cable industry, which currently run, basically a monopoly on us.

What's this Suddenlink business?

 

[Lakhota]

You know, Lakotha, I was just having a lovely conversation with my pops earlier tonight about the cable industry.

I was telling him about how HBO will be offering a new stand-alone package starting next year and explaining to him how it's the best thing since slice bread for the consumer. I explained to him that this move is the first step in breaking the backs of the cable industry, which currently run, basically a monopoly on us.

What's this Suddenlink business?

Suddenlink is just another greedy cable company. Its headquarters is based in St. Louis, Missouri.

Suddenlink Communications - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Moonglow]

And Turner dropped all their channels but TBS from Dish Network...I am going to have only Hulu and Netflix on my TV after December...

 

[Darkwind]

Good, I would like to see the end to this government forced market monopolies of cable. The cable company I am forced to endure are incompetent at best. My internet speeds are two orders of magnitude less than any metro market baseline and there is no cause for it.

 

[Lakhota]

And Turner dropped all their channels but TBS from Dish Network...I am going to have only Hulu and Netflix on my TV after December...

Cable companies are worse than the mafia. They're legal and much bigger than the traditional mafia. Of all utilities throughout my lifetime - I've always had the greatest disdain for cable companies.

 

[MarcATL]

Good, I would like to see the end to this government forced market monopolies of cable. The cable company I am forced to endure are incompetent at best. My internet speeds are two orders of magnitude less than any metro market baseline and there is no cause for it.

How did the government force this monoply?

Please explain.

 

[Lakhota]

Government forced/sanctioned cable monopolies:

• Don't Blame Big Cable. It's Local Governments That Choke ... - Wired
  http://www.wired.com / 2013 / 07 / we-need-to-stop-focusing / - 184k - similar pages
  Jul 16, 2013 ... And it's essentially a system of forced kickbacks. ... Google Fiber and other fiber companies in portraying cable as a permanent monopoly.).
• How Government Regulations Created the Time Warner-CBS ...
  How Government Regulations Created the Time Warner-CBS Blackout - Reason.com - 214k -similar pages
  Aug 13, 2013 ... At stake is how much the cable company should pay to carry CBS's ... interested in carrying a local TV station's signal, the station can force them to do so. ... local TV stations would be at the mercy of monopoly cable systems.
• Why the Government Won't Protect You from Getting Screwed by ...
  http://gizmodo.com / 5830956 / why-the-government-wont-... - 81k - similar pages
  Aug 15, 2011 ... The cable industry is a patchwork of micro-monopolies. Or more accurately, naturalmonopolies: situations of little or no competition that doesn't ...
• Coercive monopoly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  Coercive monopoly - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia - 80k - similar pages
  Examples ofgovernment-granted monopolies include cable television and water ... In addition to moral arguments over the use of force, free market anarchists ...
• A Cable Merger Too Far - NYTimes.com
  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/opinion/a-cable-merger-too-far.html - similar pages
  May 26, 2014 ... ... when the government forced the breakup of the original AT&T telephone monopoly. The combined company would provide cable-TV service ...

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

 

[MarcATL]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

 

[MarcATL]

Government forced/sanctioned cable monopolies:

• Don't Blame Big Cable. It's Local Governments That Choke ... - Wired
  http://www.wired.com / 2013 / 07 / we-need-to-stop-focusing / - 184k - similar pages
  Jul 16, 2013 ... And it's essentially a system of forced kickbacks. ... Google Fiber and other fiber companies in portraying cable as a permanent monopoly.).
• How Government Regulations Created the Time Warner-CBS ...
  How Government Regulations Created the Time Warner-CBS Blackout - Reason.com - 214k -similar pages
  Aug 13, 2013 ... At stake is how much the cable company should pay to carry CBS's ... interested in carrying a local TV station's signal, the station can force them to do so. ... local TV stations would be at the mercy of monopoly cable systems.
• Why the Government Won't Protect You from Getting Screwed by ...
  http://gizmodo.com / 5830956 / why-the-government-wont-... - 81k - similar pages
  Aug 15, 2011 ... The cable industry is a patchwork of micro-monopolies. Or more accurately, naturalmonopolies: situations of little or no competition that doesn't ...
• Coercive monopoly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  Coercive monopoly - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia - 80k - similar pages
  Examples ofgovernment-granted monopolies include cable television and water ... In addition to moral arguments over the use of force, free market anarchists ...
• A Cable Merger Too Far - NYTimes.com
  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/opinion/a-cable-merger-too-far.html - similar pages
  May 26, 2014 ... ... when the government forced the breakup of the original AT&T telephone monopoly. The combined company would provide cable-TV service ...

So basically the government is kowtowing to demands from private industry.

Yes?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

Well, that's not ENTIRELY their fault.

I mean you take a company like ABC who owns so many stations that everyone wants (ESPN etc etc) and they know that, so what they do is they force the providers to tell their subscibers if you want ESPN you also have to take Bravo (or whatever lame ass station they own) because though they have a few customers who want Bravo, they don't have enough who want it to justify DirecTV offering it if they weren't forced to by ABC.

So, you as the consumer get 20 stations you want, and 40 you don't all for $69.99 a month

I'll tell you my biggest peeve with satelite TV. Everytime they come out with a new receiver , they offer it to new customers for free, and want good loyal customers to pay $200-500 for it.

I had been with Dish for like 6 years when the HDTV got popular and they came out with an HD receiver, offering it free to new customers . I called and told them I wanted to upgrade and they wanted to bill me like $500. They wouldn't budge. I cancelled and had DTV installed the next day, upgraded receiver for free.

 

[MarcATL]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

Well, that's not ENTIRELY their fault.

I mean you take a company like ABC who owns so many stations that everyone wants (ESPN etc etc) and they know that, so what they do is they force the providers to tell their subscibers if you want ESPN you also have to take Bravo (or whatever lame ass station they own) because though they have a few customers who want Bravo, they don't have enough who want it to justify DirecTV offering it if they weren't forced to by ABC.

So, you as the consumer get 20 stations you want, and 40 you don't all for $69.99 a month

I'll tell you my biggest peeve with satelite TV. Everytime they come out with a new receiver , they offer it to new customers for free, and want good loyal customers to pay $200-500 for it.

I had been with Dish for like 6 years when the HDTV got popular and they came out with an HD receiver, offering it free to new customers . I called and told them I wanted to upgrade and they wanted to bill me like $500. They wouldn't budge. I cancelled and had DTV installed the next day, upgraded receiver for free.

I know. What you stated is exactly backing up my statement.

I've had all of them, Cable, DirectTV, DishNetwork...it's all the same BS, paying for a bunch of stuff you don't want to get the stuff you really want.

AKA, monopoly.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

Well, that's not ENTIRELY their fault.

I mean you take a company like ABC who owns so many stations that everyone wants (ESPN etc etc) and they know that, so what they do is they force the providers to tell their subscibers if you want ESPN you also have to take Bravo (or whatever lame ass station they own) because though they have a few customers who want Bravo, they don't have enough who want it to justify DirecTV offering it if they weren't forced to by ABC.

So, you as the consumer get 20 stations you want, and 40 you don't all for $69.99 a month

I'll tell you my biggest peeve with satelite TV. Everytime they come out with a new receiver , they offer it to new customers for free, and want good loyal customers to pay $200-500 for it.

I had been with Dish for like 6 years when the HDTV got popular and they came out with an HD receiver, offering it free to new customers . I called and told them I wanted to upgrade and they wanted to bill me like $500. They wouldn't budge. I cancelled and had DTV installed the next day, upgraded receiver for free.

I know. What you stated is exactly backing up my statement.

I've had all of them, Cable, DirectTV, DishNetwork...it's all the same BS, paying for a bunch of stuff you don't want to get the stuff you really want.

AKA, monopoly.

I wish you could just pick 50 channels and pay a buck each a month for them.

I need the 3 ESPNs, the 4 networks, a shit load of kid's channels, and I"m good really

 

[Papageorgio]

Hulu plus, Netflix Amazon prime, iTV, HD Antenna, all for less than cable or satellite..

As far as utilities, they all suck, electric, phone, water, garbage. At least now I'm free from T v monopoly.

 

[MarcATL]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

Well, that's not ENTIRELY their fault.

I mean you take a company like ABC who owns so many stations that everyone wants (ESPN etc etc) and they know that, so what they do is they force the providers to tell their subscibers if you want ESPN you also have to take Bravo (or whatever lame ass station they own) because though they have a few customers who want Bravo, they don't have enough who want it to justify DirecTV offering it if they weren't forced to by ABC.

So, you as the consumer get 20 stations you want, and 40 you don't all for $69.99 a month

I'll tell you my biggest peeve with satelite TV. Everytime they come out with a new receiver , they offer it to new customers for free, and want good loyal customers to pay $200-500 for it.

I had been with Dish for like 6 years when the HDTV got popular and they came out with an HD receiver, offering it free to new customers . I called and told them I wanted to upgrade and they wanted to bill me like $500. They wouldn't budge. I cancelled and had DTV installed the next day, upgraded receiver for free.

I know. What you stated is exactly backing up my statement.

I've had all of them, Cable, DirectTV, DishNetwork...it's all the same BS, paying for a bunch of stuff you don't want to get the stuff you really want.

AKA, monopoly.

I wish you could just pick 50 channels and pay a buck each a month for them.

I need the 3 ESPNs, the 4 networks, a shit load of kid's channels, and I"m good really

My pops was telling me that he pays for an ESPN standalone package on his tablet, I'm guessing his iPad.

He's back home in the Caribbean, so its seemingly out there and available to all already.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Woah, I'm gonna agree with Liekhota.

Cable sucks.

I love my DirecTV

They're not much better.

Same monopoly going on, based on price and what you get for what you pay.

Well, that's not ENTIRELY their fault.

I mean you take a company like ABC who owns so many stations that everyone wants (ESPN etc etc) and they know that, so what they do is they force the providers to tell their subscibers if you want ESPN you also have to take Bravo (or whatever lame ass station they own) because though they have a few customers who want Bravo, they don't have enough who want it to justify DirecTV offering it if they weren't forced to by ABC.

So, you as the consumer get 20 stations you want, and 40 you don't all for $69.99 a month

I'll tell you my biggest peeve with satelite TV. Everytime they come out with a new receiver , they offer it to new customers for free, and want good loyal customers to pay $200-500 for it.

I had been with Dish for like 6 years when the HDTV got popular and they came out with an HD receiver, offering it free to new customers . I called and told them I wanted to upgrade and they wanted to bill me like $500. They wouldn't budge. I cancelled and had DTV installed the next day, upgraded receiver for free.

I know. What you stated is exactly backing up my statement.

I've had all of them, Cable, DirectTV, DishNetwork...it's all the same BS, paying for a bunch of stuff you don't want to get the stuff you really want.

AKA, monopoly.

I wish you could just pick 50 channels and pay a buck each a month for them.

I need the 3 ESPNs, the 4 networks, a shit load of kid's channels, and I"m good really

My pops was telling me that he pays for an ESPN standalone package on his tablet, I'm guessing his iPad.

He's back home in the Caribbean, so its seemingly out there and available to all already.

I actually just slingbox from my DTV, but these apps are out there

WatchESPN Apps - Available on Xbox 360 iPhone iPad Android and Kindle Fire

have no idea how well they work