Any truth to this? Workers over 40 say they’re being passed over for promotions and cut out of higher salaries

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As the U.S. workforce grows older, the problems around ageism in the office are coming to a head. Elder millennials, Gen X, and boomer employees all say they're experiencing serious discrimination issues, and it's hurting their morale.

About 90% of U.S. workers aged 40 or older say they have experienced ageism in the workplace, according to a new report from Resume Now, a jobs platform. The most glaring example is compensation nearly half of these older workers report earning less than their younger colleagues, according to the study. And the same proportion of respondents, about 49%, say they make less money than Gen Z and younger millennial workers for doing the same job.

Older millennials, Gen Xers, and boomers say they're also being given fewer opportunities to progress in their roles, creating barriers in their career growth. About 22% of employees 40 years or older say their work environments skip over older colleagues for challenging assignments, according to the report. Nearly all survey participants said that ageism limits their access to professional development and training services, and around 16% of respondents say their employer engages in a pattern of passing over older workers for promotions in favor of younger counterparts who may have fewer qualifications.

Unsurprisingly, this ageism is impacting the way workers show up to their jobs. Discrimination bulldozes employee well-being: of workers aged 40 or older who have faced ageism, 45% say the bias made them feel isolated and lonely, 44% suffered from depression, and 36% experienced anxiety.

Unfortunately, ageism can be difficult to prove and police, putting up roadblocks for affected staffers to advocate for themselves. About 94% of survey participants who have faced age bias say they have reported the discrimination to their HR teams, but only 45% say that HR mediated the situation. Among workers who have faced ageism, about 37% of those who reported the situation say the ageist coworker was given a warning, 30% said they got a slap on the wrist but weren't fired, 23% say the person was terminated, and 5% said administration took no action.

There's no doubt that the workforce is getting older. And as long as ageism persists, HR leaders must work to help companies dismantle their bias, create more equitable career advancement opportunities, and recognize that America's aging workforce should be respected for their contributions.

I understand that it's supposedly been going on for over a decade. Older, particularly white men are being replaced by DEI hires, H1Bs, or youngsters of color.

Common sense would dictate that older employees, on average, don't make the number mistakes that the youngsters do, therefore they get paid more. It's said those are the first to be let go now.

Seems to me that companies do it at their own risk, but that doesn't help if you are 40-odd and unemployed.
 
I would say I've encountered ageism in my career since my late 40s, and am in my early 60s now.

I try to compensate a bit by dying my hair when I am on the job hunt.
 
I would say I've encountered ageism in my career since my late 40s, and am in my early 60s now.

I try to compensate a bit by dying my hair when I am on the job hunt.
You are looking for a job in your 60's?

Man, that must suck. Good luck

My former employer was a conservative corporation that did not treat employees this way. I really didn't see ageism because so many oldsters were still working when I bailed out. They have a pretty long history of loyalty to employees but that was all changing, for the worse, as I was headed out the door. H1B's from India, and sending people over from India to literally be trained by the people they were replacing was the first negative change I saw on a large scale.

They didn't have to train their replacements, but they would not receive 6 months seperation pay if they chose not to.
 
I remember hearing about this awhile back but it was more targeting those in late 50-60's.
 
I think everyone is their 40s and up has experienced ageism.

I was in my 50s at my last job, and the young women in their 20s and 30s were always requesting and getting approved for training classes and conferences in beautiful resorts - including Hawaii. I and the two other women in our 50s were routinely turned down for similar requests, and limited to day seminars right here in DC.

This was also a very “woke” company - elevating blacks and gays beyond their competence, and leaving whites in subordinate roles where they had to “cover” for the blacks and gays promoted above them. As a result, they had a very high turnover of whites.
 
This was also a very “woke” company - elevating blacks and gays beyond their competence, and leaving whites in subordinate roles where they had to “cover” for the blacks and gays promoted above them. As a result, they had a very high turnover of whites.

Have you ever considered acting gay or transgender to advance your career? You would only have to act this way during business hours (and also conferences and training in Hawaii, Key West, etc.)
 
Have you ever considered acting gay or transgender to advance your career? You would only have to act this way during business hours (and also conferences and training in Hawaii, Key West, etc.)
Why should I have to do that, rather than being recognized for my talents and contributions? I won’t blame that game.
 
I understand that it's supposedly been going on for over a decade. Older, particularly white men are being replaced by DEI hires, H1Bs, or youngsters of color.

I can tell you this: I spent a number of years engineering global telecommunications and had awards for records and expertise I had accomplished with vast training and certification across a wide swath of technologies. I left the field to pursue a business interest of my own but the economy changed and the market for what I wanted to do fell out and about 10-15 years ago decided to look at going back into telecom and sought out a hiring firm dedicated exclusively to that field, figuring that with my knowledge and experience, I was a shoe in--- I would be hiring gold that any employer would gladly snap up.

I was met with a young girl in her 20s that obviously didn't know the first thing about telecom who in the interview summarily told me that they couldn't use me. All they were interested in were new hires fresh out of school with no experience! So I went into another field and got an even better job that paid far more.

How's that for revenge?! :SMILEW~130:

But I really did miss telecommunications.
 
What about becoming more 'woke'?

Not sure how that works, but something to look into.
So pretending to be gay would make me more “woke”? Or just accepting that a less-qualified gay “deserves” to be promoted over a better-qualified straight person?

Would you have the same advice if I were applying for a job with someone who is an antisemite? Should I pretend to be a Protestant?

No way. I wouldn’t want to work for someone who won’t hire (or promote) me because he discriminates against Jews. Same reason I wouldn’t work for a company that discriminates against heterosexuals and white people.
 
No way. I wouldn’t want to work for someone who won’t hire (or promote) me because he discriminates against Jews. Same reason I wouldn’t work for a company that discriminates against heterosexuals and white people.
I thought that was what was happening in your workplace.

Another scenario: All of those promoted over you are just better employees.
 
I thought that was what was happening in your workplace.

Another scenario: All of those promoted over you are just better employees.
Yes, it was. They favored gays and blacks. That’s why they had a large turnover of straight whites.
 
There is definitely a DEI ceiling for most men over 40, especially in government and large corporations. Firing them on that basis is generally illegal, so most are just left in their current positions until they quit out of frustration or simply wait until they retire. I saw this coming in my 30s (1980s), got the hell out and started my own business. I didn't make any more money, but it was like getting released from penal servitude.
 
I believe it is dependent upon what industry we are talking about. My field was software engineering and I personally never experienced ageism in my 38 year career. I did see evidence of favoritism toward young, aggressive types especially women to be quickly promoted to managers. I retired several years ago and I hear that has gotten worse from my friends who are still working.
 
I think everyone is their 40s and up has experienced ageism.

I was in my 50s at my last job, and the young women in their 20s and 30s were always requesting and getting approved for training classes and conferences in beautiful resorts - including Hawaii. I and the two other women in our 50s were routinely turned down for similar requests, and limited to day seminars right here in DC.

This was also a very “woke” company - elevating blacks and gays beyond their competence, and leaving whites in subordinate roles where they had to “cover” for the blacks and gays promoted above them. As a result, they had a very high turnover of whites.
You probably worked for antisemites. That must be it.
 
Wouldn't you think workers over 40 would have the experience and maturity to be ideal for promotions?
 
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