Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
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Any British Subjects Here? What is a "Prince"?
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A prince is a spoiled out of touch man that marries loony women and never has to work.....
ReinyDays
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Easy ... titles have precedence ... "Duke of Sussex" is a higher rank than "Prince" ... so we call Harry and Meagan the Duke and Duchess of Sussex rather than Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom ...
I don't know about Archie ... he is an official Prince, but he may also have a higher title which we would call him ...
I don't know about Archie ... he is an official Prince, but he may also have a higher title which we would call him ...
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The kid is not in a direct line to be King. So he's not a prince.Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
EvilCat Breath
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The Queen chose not to give Archie a title at all.Easy ... titles have precedence ... "Duke of Sussex" is a higher rank than "Prince" ... so we call Harry and Meagan the Duke and Duchess of Sussex rather than Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom ...
I don't know about Archie ... he is an official Prince, but he may also have a higher title which we would call him ...
ReinyDays
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The Queen chose not to give Archie a title at all.I don't know about Archie ... he is an official Prince, but he may also have a higher title which we would call him ...
Thank you for this correction ...
Do you know if Harry and Meagan registered Archie's birth with the US consulate ... thus giving Archie his American citizenship? ...
It's not at all unusual for children of a marriage between royalty and a commoner to be considered out of the line of succession and not receive the kind of titles that a child of a "proper" marriage would.Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
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Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
Great-grandchildren are not required to receive the title of Prince or Princess if the Great-Grandparent (the sitting Queen) is still alive when they are born.
And it is also not commonly done when the great grandchild is so far out of the proposed line of succession that they will never be King or Queen.
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Hang on Sloopy
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Boy Fat O and them really made asses of themselves. What a fucking race baiter. Wait until that woman takes red head to the cleanersCan anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
Jimmy_Chitwood
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"In England a king hath little more to do than to make war and give away places; which in plain terms, is to impoverish the nation and set it together by the ears. A pretty business indeed for a man to be allowed eight hundred thousand sterling a year for, and worshipped into the bargain! Of more worth is one honest man to society and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived."
"Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions."
"But where says some is the King of America? I’ll tell you Friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the Royal Brute of Britain."
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God bless Tommy Paine.
"Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions."
"But where says some is the King of America? I’ll tell you Friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the Royal Brute of Britain."
— Thomas Paine
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God bless Tommy Paine.
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DrLove
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Jesus - Don't care. What a Royal BORE. 
Hang on Sloopy
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A few hundred years ago you'd get your head chopped in London Square for this blasphemy.Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
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Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
My understanding is the queen hands out the titles. I think Williams kids are all above Harry in the line of succession.
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He'll be a confused train wreck when this is over. She seems to be very Kardashian like.A prince is a spoiled out of touch man that marries loony women and never has to work.....
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The Queen chose not to give Archie a title at all.I don't know about Archie ... he is an official Prince, but he may also have a higher title which we would call him ...
Thank you for this correction ...
Do you know if Harry and Meagan registered Archie's birth with the US consulate ... thus giving Archie his American citizenship? ...
His mother is American, so Archie is by default.
(pssst, he is also British)
Vagabond63
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Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
This extrct sums it up for anyone who cares:
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.
The Queen did step in ahead of George’s birth to issue letters patent to ensure the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s children would have the titles of prince and princess.
But they are children of the future monarch, whereas Archie is not. His father, Harry, is sixth in line to the throne, and will move down the line of succession if William and Kate have more children, and as George, Charlotte and Louis have children of their own."
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Duke and Dutchess like Lord, Lady, Earl, Vicount are bestowed titles. None are inheritance. The Queen giveth and the Queen taketh away. William and Kate are the Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge. Charles is Prince of Wales because the direct heir to the throne is always Prince of Wales. When Charles is King William and Kate will lose the titles of Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge and become Prince and Princess of Wales. Duke is not a higher rank than Prince. Camilla despite being married to Charles will never be Princess of Wales because she will never be Queen. Queen Elizabeth bestowed no more than the title of Lady.
Harry is not a direct heir to the throne. He is 7th in line. Archie is not in line at all and will never be a prince. The Queen has chosen not to give him a title. Duke is not an inherited title so Archie is just a commoner. Had Meghan not been so overbearing and destroyed the entire family relationship Charles as King could have given Archie a title or William could when he takes the throne.
Harry is not a direct heir to the throne. He is 7th in line. Archie is not in line at all and will never be a prince. The Queen has chosen not to give him a title. Duke is not an inherited title so Archie is just a commoner. Had Meghan not been so overbearing and destroyed the entire family relationship Charles as King could have given Archie a title or William could when he takes the throne.
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Neither is Prince Andrew or his children.The kid is not in a direct line to be King. So he's not a prince.Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
But his daughters are Princesses
EvilCat Breath
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You didn't pay attention to the excellent explanation. Prince Andrew is the Queen's son. His daughters are grandchildren. That makes them Princesses. Archie is a great grandchild. Entitled to nothing. When Charles takes the throne Archie will be a grandchild so it might change.Neither is Prince Andrew or his children.The kid is not in a direct line to be King. So he's not a prince.Can anyone explain how it happened that the kid of Harry & Megan was deemed to be something other than a "Prince"?
But his daughters are Princesses
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