Another reason why School Vouchers are needed....

[Unkotare]

Public School Rankings By State

Ranked with 2024 data, Massachusetts leads all 50 states in public school quality while Utah ranks 11th on less than half the national average in spending.

www.datapandas.org

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[Unkotare]

These 10 states have the nation's best schools

When it comes to overall quality and safety, Massachusetts boasts the nation's best school systems, a new WalletHub ranking suggests.

districtadministration.com

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[Unkotare]

... If a Public School loses too many Students, they lose their funding and the Teachers have to get a real job.

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"A real job"? How many years of experience as a teacher do you have?

 

[Unkotare]

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Trust me, they don't want that.

Trust you? Why?

 

[Unkotare]

Oh, so what you're saying is that private charitable institutions, who care about children, will step in and fill the gaps.
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When did I say that?

 

[Unkotare]

Hogwash....Federal dollars have been used as a cudgel to dictate curriculum and policies.....

You may want to believe that because it gives you one more thing to be outraged over, but it doesn't change the fact that almost all aspects of education are a state/local thing.

 

[Edgetho]

"A real job"? How many years of experience as a teacher do you have?

Being a Teacher is a miserable job. I know this to be true without ever being a Teacher. I knew enough of them professionally and personally to be certain of this.

The 2nd problem is -- It doesn't have to be. The Teachers are the Spear Catchers for all the numbskull, idiotic, stupid, lame-brained ideas forced on them by Academic Imbeciles. The ones who never have to step foot in the Classroom.

The 1st problem is -- Teachers accept it. They get dumped on and the Teachers slurp it up like Mothers Milk.

So excuse me if I don't waste a lot of sympathy on them.

It's one of the reasons why Private Schools get such good Teachers. Teachers often leave because of all the bullshit. Most of them go into another profession but some of them, the ones who can live on less money, go to Private Schools where the object is to actually teach the kids.

When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children. ~ Albert Shanker, president of the United Federation of Teachers

 

[Unkotare]

...State and local bureaucracies are every bit as top heavy with administration, corrupt, and incompetent as any federal agency....In fact, a lot of them are worse.

Ok.

 

[Unkotare]

Being a Teacher is a miserable job. I know this to be true without ever being a Teacher. ...

Do you have any idea how incredibly stupid that statement is?

 

[Oddball]

You may want to believe that because it gives you one more thing to be outraged over, but it doesn't change the fact that almost all aspects of education are a state/local thing.

Not outraged, just conveying a fact of which you are in blissful denial.

 

[Unkotare]

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It's one of the reasons why Private Schools get such good Teachers. Teachers often leave because of all the bullshit. Most of them go into another profession but some of them, the ones who can live on less money, go to Private Schools where the object is to actually teach the kids.

And you know any of that based on absolutely nothing as well? Edifying.

 

[Oddball]

When did I say that?

It's tacit in your response.

You are excused now.

 

[Unkotare]

Not outraged, just conveying a fact ...

It can't be a fact when it's incorrect.

 

[Unkotare]

It's tacit in your response.
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Is it imagination time again? What fun!

 

[Edgetho]

And you know any of that based on absolutely nothing as well? Edifying.

Based on personal experience.

It also happens to be true. Sorry if it doesn't fit into your view of the world

 

[Edgetho]

Do you have any idea how incredibly stupid that statement is?

It just happens to be a ******* FACT. Which is supported by this --


Education Resource Strategies
https://www.erstrategies.org › Tools and Publications


May 1, 2025 — After the 2022-23 school year, 30% of new teachers left their schools, and 26% of teachers with 3-7 years of experience left their schools

 

[Unkotare]

Based on personal experience.
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What experience, specifically?

 

[Edgetho]

What experience, specifically?

******* spare me the interrogation --

 

[Unkotare]

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It's one of the reasons why Private Schools get such good Teachers. ...

Yeah...not always. Private schools don't require their teachers to have teaching licenses, so it's kind of a crap shoot.

 

[Unkotare]

... Private Schools where the object is to actually teach the kids.

The object at public schools is to actually teach the kids too. Really.