Another mass shooting. Another assault rifle

[Skull Pilot]

Correct, it is a tool for use in killing in mass, especially when equipped with a large magazine and a quick release magnet.

No.....wrong...again...The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in the United States, over 5 million in private hands.....and in 35 years how many people have been murdered with one......less than 167, ...in 35 years....hardly a mass killing weapon...

Knives on the other hand...kill over 1,500 every single year. Knives are actually deadlier by body count than these rifles....

AJune 2016 article: "At least 84 people have been killed and 119 have been injured so far this year in 86 shooting incidents involving assault-style rifles, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit corporation that tracks gun violence. Those numbers include the casualties at Pulse nightclub over the weekend."

84 in half of 2016. Assault type rifles. Yet you are claiming 137 in 35 years........

It's pretty clear why you didn't include a link to that article, isn't it? Could it be that most of those killed were killed by terrorists? Would you be happier is the terrorists just used trucks to commit mass murder?

The fact remains, most murders are done with handguns and involve gang-bangers shooting other gang-bangers or domestic violence. More than half of the "gun violence" (a term the LW antigunners love to toss around) are suicides. Gang-bangers is an inner-city crime problem. Domestic violence and suicides are a mental health issue. If the LW really gave a shit about saving lives, they'd focus on fixing those areas and less on shredding the Constitution for their authoritarian agenda.

I think I looked up what he was talking about.....I think they include pistols, shotguns and some bolt action rifles as "Assault weapons" I would have to see his link...which he didn't give yet......to be sure...

Correct. It depends if they have "military" features such as a pistol grip, thumb grip or detachable magazine. Example:

Assault Weapons Ban summary - United States Senator for California

• All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
• All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
• 157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).

MILLER: Feinstein's list of 157 banned guns - Washington Times
None of these guns function any differently than any other standard semi-automatic weapon. What makes a gun get on Mrs. Feinstein’s list is that it appears scary to her. We really should be governing by fact and not not emotion.

Here is the list of 157 makes and models of banned guns:

and no one can tell me how a rifle with a pistol grip is more deadly than a rifle without a pistol grip

 

[Divine Wind]

No...it doesn't...that is the lie the anti gunners use because they want to ban the weapon. The truth is that a military rifle must have select fire capability.......the AR-15 does not, and never has had this...and has never been used by the military....the definition you gave...fits most modern pistols...which is another thing the gun grabbers do...they bait and switch, here we were talking about rifles...but the definition you gave fits pistols too....which is why we don't trust anti gunners....

We had a ban on assault type rifles. Where were the other bans you keep whining about?

Many LWs want to ban all guns. This forum is replete with that idea. However, shredding the Constitution isn't a practical path for them. Slowly eating away at individual rights and eroding the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment in particular works much better for them. They use words like "for the children" and "common sense" but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty it's statements that mean restricting all free citizens from exercising their natural right of self-defense.

BTW, there is not such thing as an "assault rifle" much less an "assault type rifle". It's a fabricated term used by the anti-gun left that means "scary-looking rifle".

What is the difference between these two rifles, RealDave?

Would you call CPS on the parents of this young man?

Premise one is a lie ("Many LWs want to ban all guns"); no one in authority has ever proposed legislation to ban all guns. Most of us believe guns need to be controlled, and kept out of the hands of those who have a demonstrated a lack of self control (drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, etc.).

Any tool can be an assault weapon, from a hammer or screw driver to a a knife or a gun. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is a felony, though no real harm to the victim needs to have occurred.

It is already against the law for a felon to buy, own or carry a gun. If they are caught doing any of those things they can be arrested.....this can already be done, under current law.

If you use a gun to commit an actual crime, rape, robbery, murder, attempted murder, you can already be arrested...under current law, using any type of firearm.

We already have the laws for gun crimes........yet the anti gunners want more laws that solely target law abiding people, who have not, and do not use their guns to commit crimes....

Why is that?

Q. How do felons acquire a gun.

Q. What laws are in place and enforced to prevent the sale of a gun to a felon, by a private party.

Q. The 2nd A. which you argue is clear in its "shall not be infringed" phrase, allows the state to deny this right to felons.

Steal it, buy it from another criminal.

It's against the law.

I agree that once a criminal has done their time, all of their rights should be restored including self-defense and voting rights.

 

[Divine Wind]

No.....wrong...again...The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in the United States, over 5 million in private hands.....and in 35 years how many people have been murdered with one......less than 167, ...in 35 years....hardly a mass killing weapon...

Knives on the other hand...kill over 1,500 every single year. Knives are actually deadlier by body count than these rifles....

AJune 2016 article: "At least 84 people have been killed and 119 have been injured so far this year in 86 shooting incidents involving assault-style rifles, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit corporation that tracks gun violence. Those numbers include the casualties at Pulse nightclub over the weekend."

84 in half of 2016. Assault type rifles. Yet you are claiming 137 in 35 years........

It's pretty clear why you didn't include a link to that article, isn't it? Could it be that most of those killed were killed by terrorists? Would you be happier is the terrorists just used trucks to commit mass murder?

The fact remains, most murders are done with handguns and involve gang-bangers shooting other gang-bangers or domestic violence. More than half of the "gun violence" (a term the LW antigunners love to toss around) are suicides. Gang-bangers is an inner-city crime problem. Domestic violence and suicides are a mental health issue. If the LW really gave a shit about saving lives, they'd focus on fixing those areas and less on shredding the Constitution for their authoritarian agenda.

I think I looked up what he was talking about.....I think they include pistols, shotguns and some bolt action rifles as "Assault weapons" I would have to see his link...which he didn't give yet......to be sure...

Correct. It depends if they have "military" features such as a pistol grip, thumb grip or detachable magazine. Example:

Assault Weapons Ban summary - United States Senator for California

• All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
• All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
• 157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).

MILLER: Feinstein's list of 157 banned guns - Washington Times
None of these guns function any differently than any other standard semi-automatic weapon. What makes a gun get on Mrs. Feinstein’s list is that it appears scary to her. We really should be governing by fact and not not emotion.

Here is the list of 157 makes and models of banned guns:

and no one can tell me how a rifle with a pistol grip is more deadly than a rifle without a pistol grip

It's not, but for the anti-gun Left, it's a step to a complete semi-auto ban. In their view, if a 10-bullet magazine limit is good, then a 5-bullet magazine limit is better. Semi-autos shoot too fast so bolt action will save lives. etc.

 

[Divine Wind]

Look, asswipe,....

LOL. I'm guessing you flunked debate club in high school. No worries. Nice dodge on the bet since you would have lost your fucking ass. The proof was in the initial post hidden in the four dots as hyperlinks.

 

[RealDave]

No.....wrong...again...The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in the United States, over 5 million in private hands.....and in 35 years how many people have been murdered with one......less than 167, ...in 35 years....hardly a mass killing weapon...

Knives on the other hand...kill over 1,500 every single year. Knives are actually deadlier by body count than these rifles....

AJune 2016 article: "At least 84 people have been killed and 119 have been injured so far this year in 86 shooting incidents involving assault-style rifles, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit corporation that tracks gun violence. Those numbers include the casualties at Pulse nightclub over the weekend."

84 in half of 2016. Assault type rifles. Yet you are claiming 137 in 35 years........

It's pretty clear why you didn't include a link to that article, isn't it? Could it be that most of those killed were killed by terrorists? Would you be happier is the terrorists just used trucks to commit mass murder?

The fact remains, most murders are done with handguns and involve gang-bangers shooting other gang-bangers or domestic violence. More than half of the "gun violence" (a term the LW antigunners love to toss around) are suicides. Gang-bangers is an inner-city crime problem. Domestic violence and suicides are a mental health issue. If the LW really gave a shit about saving lives, they'd focus on fixing those areas and less on shredding the Constitution for their authoritarian agenda.

I think I looked up what he was talking about.....I think they include pistols, shotguns and some bolt action rifles as "Assault weapons" I would have to see his link...which he didn't give yet......to be sure...

Correct. It depends if they have "military" features such as a pistol grip, thumb grip or detachable magazine. Example:

Assault Weapons Ban summary - United States Senator for California

• All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
• All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
• 157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).

MILLER: Feinstein's list of 157 banned guns - Washington Times
None of these guns function any differently than any other standard semi-automatic weapon. What makes a gun get on Mrs. Feinstein’s list is that it appears scary to her. We really should be governing by fact and not not emotion.

Here is the list of 157 makes and models of banned guns:

and no one can tell me how a rifle with a pistol grip is more deadly than a rifle without a pistol grip

Why have one if it presents no advantage?

 

[RealDave]

You dickweeds do realize that by stating how other weapons can kill just as quickly that you are arguing there is no need for assault type weapons.

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

Wrong again. My mini 14 which is not classified as an "assault" rifle can take a 30 round magazine

I was referring to the semi automatic deer rifles.

any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine can accommodate literally any number of rounds the magazine is made to hold

you might want to learn a little bit more about firearms before you post any more so you don't look like even more of an idiot

So, all of these semi-automatic deer rifles have clips?

 

[RealDave]

Premise one is a lie ("Many LWs want to ban all guns"); no one in authority has ever proposed legislation to ban all guns. Most of us believe guns need to be controlled, and kept out of the hands of those who have a demonstrated a lack of self control (drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, etc.).

Any tool can be an assault weapon, from a hammer or screw driver to a a knife or a gun. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is a felony, though no real harm to the victim needs to have occurred.

It is already against the law for a felon to buy, own or carry a gun. If they are caught doing any of those things they can be arrested.....this can already be done, under current law.

If you use a gun to commit an actual crime, rape, robbery, murder, attempted murder, you can already be arrested...under current law, using any type of firearm.

We already have the laws for gun crimes........yet the anti gunners want more laws that solely target law abiding people, who have not, and do not use their guns to commit crimes....

Why is that?

Q. How do felons acquire a gun.

Q. What laws are in place and enforced to prevent the sale of a gun to a felon, by a private party.

Q. The 2nd A. which you argue is clear in its "shall not be infringed" phrase, allows the state to deny this right to felons.

A. They buy it via illegal avenues from other criminals
A It is illegal to knowingly sell a gun to a felon in almost every state and more and more states are now requiring that all private gun sales be brokered by am Federally licensed dealer who is obligated to run a background check and keep a record of the transaction

A. Felons are denied other rights as well

But, but, but the only Right not to be infringed is the Second Amendment. Isn't that what you've always posted?

You can't have it both ways, if you agree a felon can be denied this Right, it opens the door for less restrictive gun controls, such as licensing and registration.

Please...tell the class what licensing law abiding gun owners does to stop gun crimes or prevent gun crimes......

Considering that criminals cannot buy, own or carry a gun, they can't get a license for a gun......so what is the point?

And before you say...so we know who owns the gun.....again, what does that do to stop or solve a gun crime?

Be brave...answer the question.

Keeping in mind that the criminals in this country steal their guns, from homes, stores, train cars and cars......so if a gun is found, the original owner has no connection to the actual crime.

If a criminal gets the gun from a straw buyer...someone who can pass a background check, both at a store and at a private sale, we can find out that straw buyer when we arrest the criminal who actually used the gun for the crime...right? Again, the license did nothing to stop or prevent that crime.

And since most of the time a straw buyer is the baby momma of the criminal, or the criminals grandmother....prosecutors do not tend to prosecute them for their gun selling....since juries don't like to convict baby momma's who say they had to get the gun or the gang would beat the shit out of them.....

So please....tell the class why we need to license guns...

Gee why not just hand out guns to everyone? Criminals, crazy people, kids, etc According to you, that will stop gun violence.

Licensing will make it more difficult for criminals to buy guns. The more difficult, the more likely they will be caught.

If a person is stopped for whatever reason & is carrying an unlicensed gun, it is then a crime & the person arrested & gun taken - BEFORE a crime a committed with it.

 

[RealDave]

We had a ban on assault type rifles. Where were the other bans you keep whining about?

Many LWs want to ban all guns. This forum is replete with that idea. However, shredding the Constitution isn't a practical path for them. Slowly eating away at individual rights and eroding the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment in particular works much better for them. They use words like "for the children" and "common sense" but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty it's statements that mean restricting all free citizens from exercising their natural right of self-defense.

BTW, there is not such thing as an "assault rifle" much less an "assault type rifle". It's a fabricated term used by the anti-gun left that means "scary-looking rifle".

What is the difference between these two rifles, RealDave?

Would you call CPS on the parents of this young man?

Premise one is a lie ("Many LWs want to ban all guns"); no one in authority has ever proposed legislation to ban all guns. Most of us believe guns need to be controlled, and kept out of the hands of those who have a demonstrated a lack of self control (drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, etc.).

Any tool can be an assault weapon, from a hammer or screw driver to a a knife or a gun. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is a felony, though no real harm to the victim needs to have occurred.

It is already against the law for a felon to buy, own or carry a gun. If they are caught doing any of those things they can be arrested.....this can already be done, under current law.

If you use a gun to commit an actual crime, rape, robbery, murder, attempted murder, you can already be arrested...under current law, using any type of firearm.

We already have the laws for gun crimes........yet the anti gunners want more laws that solely target law abiding people, who have not, and do not use their guns to commit crimes....

Why is that?

A person is seen by law enforcement carrying an assault type rifle.

Without a ban, that is not illegal & the officer has no cause to stop him for ID to determine if he is a felon, if he is one.

Lanza was not a felon.

Yes...he does have cause, twit...it is called disturbing the peace....he can then see if the guy is a felon, if he is he can arrest him.

So you admit that carrying a assault rifle is disturbing the peace.

 

[Divine Wind]

As it is now, carrying an assault weapon is not illegal. Police would see him & do nothing

With a ban, the guy could be arrested for carrying it. They don't need telepathy as the law is being broken.

If these assault weapons provide no advantage other than looking scary, why the FUCK do you want them?

You are sofa king stupid you think the death toll between a crazy person with an assault weapon & one with a bolt action rifle or a knife or a baseball bat is all the same.

But Dave, he doesn't need an "assault weapon" to kill people. He can use an automatic pistol and kill just as many, just as quickly. Banning a certain kind of gun isn't going to change a mentally unstable person's state of mind.

The weapons you are calling "assault weapons" are just regular guns. They have some beneficial features like a carbon fiber stock which makes them lighter. They may have a noise suppressor which helps protect the user's hearing. They may be camouflage in color so they are more beneficial to hunting wild animals. They aren't any more deadly than a regular rifle. In fact, there are regular-looking rifles that are much more powerful than an AR-15 or AK-47.

Will you please stop for a minute and think about the number of people killed in numerous attacks across the UK in the past few months? These people have the most strict anti-gun laws in the world... did it prevent people from dying? NO! Look at Chicago... a city with the most stringent gun laws in America and you have more people being shot and killed there daily than in Afghanistan and Iraq. Banning guns doesn't stop people from being killed.

You dickweeds do realize that by stating how other weapons can kill just as quickly that you are arguing there is no need for assault type weapons.

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

 

[Divine Wind]

It is already against the law for a felon to buy, own or carry a gun. If they are caught doing any of those things they can be arrested.....this can already be done, under current law.

If you use a gun to commit an actual crime, rape, robbery, murder, attempted murder, you can already be arrested...under current law, using any type of firearm.

We already have the laws for gun crimes........yet the anti gunners want more laws that solely target law abiding people, who have not, and do not use their guns to commit crimes....

Why is that?

Q. How do felons acquire a gun.

Q. What laws are in place and enforced to prevent the sale of a gun to a felon, by a private party.

Q. The 2nd A. which you argue is clear in its "shall not be infringed" phrase, allows the state to deny this right to felons.

A. They buy it via illegal avenues from other criminals
A It is illegal to knowingly sell a gun to a felon in almost every state and more and more states are now requiring that all private gun sales be brokered by am Federally licensed dealer who is obligated to run a background check and keep a record of the transaction

A. Felons are denied other rights as well

But, but, but the only Right not to be infringed is the Second Amendment. Isn't that what you've always posted?

You can't have it both ways, if you agree a felon can be denied this Right, it opens the door for less restrictive gun controls, such as licensing and registration.

Please...tell the class what licensing law abiding gun owners does to stop gun crimes or prevent gun crimes......

Considering that criminals cannot buy, own or carry a gun, they can't get a license for a gun......so what is the point?

And before you say...so we know who owns the gun.....again, what does that do to stop or solve a gun crime?

Be brave...answer the question.

Keeping in mind that the criminals in this country steal their guns, from homes, stores, train cars and cars......so if a gun is found, the original owner has no connection to the actual crime.

If a criminal gets the gun from a straw buyer...someone who can pass a background check, both at a store and at a private sale, we can find out that straw buyer when we arrest the criminal who actually used the gun for the crime...right? Again, the license did nothing to stop or prevent that crime.

And since most of the time a straw buyer is the baby momma of the criminal, or the criminals grandmother....prosecutors do not tend to prosecute them for their gun selling....since juries don't like to convict baby momma's who say they had to get the gun or the gang would beat the shit out of them.....

So please....tell the class why we need to license guns...

Gee why not just hand out guns to everyone? Criminals, crazy people, kids, etc According to you, that will stop gun violence.

Licensing will make it more difficult for criminals to buy guns. The more difficult, the more likely they will be caught.

If a person is stopped for whatever reason & is carrying an unlicensed gun, it is then a crime & the person arrested & gun taken - BEFORE a crime a committed with it.

You forgot to say (in a shrill voice) "Well, why not just give everyone nuclear weapons then, huh????" Dude, it's in your anti-gun pamphlet. Didn't you read it?

 

[Divine Wind]

"Nothing can be done" says only country where this sort of thing happens.

No one has said that....only you anti gunners who want to pass laws that actually don't address the problem.

As we keep telling you.....when you catch a felon with an illegal gun, you know, the guys who eventually shoot and kill people...you lock them up before they shoot and kill people, and you keep them locked up for 30 years so they can't get out and shoot and kill people.

When you catch an armed robber......30 years....especially if he used a gun.....

If you catch an attempted murderer and he used a gun...30 years.


You guys...you want to add paperwork when John Q. Law abiding citizen buys his gun........we have seen how that works out in Chicago, Baltimore, D.C., New Orlean...L.A...........

And then you fight to let violent criminals out in California and around the country...then you post stupid posts like the one you just posted..

We want to deal with actual criminals who use guns in actual criminal acts.......you want to punish law abiding gun owners.

You have far too many guns and that is why you are killing each other. Ban guns and then lock up anyone caught with one. That would make everyone safer.

Wrong. The gang-bangers are killing each other and some culturally specific households are killing each other. Well over half of all "gun violence" in America are suicides. Anyone who thinks an "assault weapons" ban will stop suicides is either a fucking moron or a lying piece of shit. Which would you be, Tommy?

 

[Skull Pilot]

AJune 2016 article: "At least 84 people have been killed and 119 have been injured so far this year in 86 shooting incidents involving assault-style rifles, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit corporation that tracks gun violence. Those numbers include the casualties at Pulse nightclub over the weekend."

84 in half of 2016. Assault type rifles. Yet you are claiming 137 in 35 years........

It's pretty clear why you didn't include a link to that article, isn't it? Could it be that most of those killed were killed by terrorists? Would you be happier is the terrorists just used trucks to commit mass murder?

The fact remains, most murders are done with handguns and involve gang-bangers shooting other gang-bangers or domestic violence. More than half of the "gun violence" (a term the LW antigunners love to toss around) are suicides. Gang-bangers is an inner-city crime problem. Domestic violence and suicides are a mental health issue. If the LW really gave a shit about saving lives, they'd focus on fixing those areas and less on shredding the Constitution for their authoritarian agenda.

I think I looked up what he was talking about.....I think they include pistols, shotguns and some bolt action rifles as "Assault weapons" I would have to see his link...which he didn't give yet......to be sure...

Correct. It depends if they have "military" features such as a pistol grip, thumb grip or detachable magazine. Example:

Assault Weapons Ban summary - United States Senator for California

• All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
• All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
• 157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).

MILLER: Feinstein's list of 157 banned guns - Washington Times
None of these guns function any differently than any other standard semi-automatic weapon. What makes a gun get on Mrs. Feinstein’s list is that it appears scary to her. We really should be governing by fact and not not emotion.

Here is the list of 157 makes and models of banned guns:

and no one can tell me how a rifle with a pistol grip is more deadly than a rifle without a pistol grip

Why have one if it presents no advantage?

Why ban it it if makes no difference?

 

[Divine Wind]

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

Wrong again. My mini 14 which is not classified as an "assault" rifle can take a 30 round magazine

I was referring to the semi automatic deer rifles.

any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine can accommodate literally any number of rounds the magazine is made to hold

you might want to learn a little bit more about firearms before you post any more so you don't look like even more of an idiot

So, all of these semi-automatic deer rifles have clips?

Yes, some are detachable, some are internal.

Example: 10 round internal magazine. Reloadable with stripper clips.

 

[Skull Pilot]

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

Wrong again. My mini 14 which is not classified as an "assault" rifle can take a 30 round magazine

I was referring to the semi automatic deer rifles.

any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine can accommodate literally any number of rounds the magazine is made to hold

you might want to learn a little bit more about firearms before you post any more so you don't look like even more of an idiot

So, all of these semi-automatic deer rifles have clips?

No rifles that accept a detachable magazine use clips

 

[Skull Pilot]

As it is now, carrying an assault weapon is not illegal. Police would see him & do nothing

With a ban, the guy could be arrested for carrying it. They don't need telepathy as the law is being broken.

If these assault weapons provide no advantage other than looking scary, why the FUCK do you want them?

You are sofa king stupid you think the death toll between a crazy person with an assault weapon & one with a bolt action rifle or a knife or a baseball bat is all the same.

But Dave, he doesn't need an "assault weapon" to kill people. He can use an automatic pistol and kill just as many, just as quickly. Banning a certain kind of gun isn't going to change a mentally unstable person's state of mind.

The weapons you are calling "assault weapons" are just regular guns. They have some beneficial features like a carbon fiber stock which makes them lighter. They may have a noise suppressor which helps protect the user's hearing. They may be camouflage in color so they are more beneficial to hunting wild animals. They aren't any more deadly than a regular rifle. In fact, there are regular-looking rifles that are much more powerful than an AR-15 or AK-47.

Will you please stop for a minute and think about the number of people killed in numerous attacks across the UK in the past few months? These people have the most strict anti-gun laws in the world... did it prevent people from dying? NO! Look at Chicago... a city with the most stringent gun laws in America and you have more people being shot and killed there daily than in Afghanistan and Iraq. Banning guns doesn't stop people from being killed.

You dickweeds do realize that by stating how other weapons can kill just as quickly that you are arguing there is no need for assault type weapons.

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

OOOH OOH I know I know

The bottom one looks scarier

 

[Divine Wind]

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

Wrong again. My mini 14 which is not classified as an "assault" rifle can take a 30 round magazine

I was referring to the semi automatic deer rifles.

any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine can accommodate literally any number of rounds the magazine is made to hold

you might want to learn a little bit more about firearms before you post any more so you don't look like even more of an idiot

So, all of these semi-automatic deer rifles have clips?

No rifles that accept a detachable magazine use clips

Uh-oh! That's a classic debate I read resolved in an issue of American Rifleman. It's no longer strict nomenclature to call a magazine a "clip", but it used to be. Colt referred to 1911A1 magazines as a "clip" in their manuals.

 

[Divine Wind]

But Dave, he doesn't need an "assault weapon" to kill people. He can use an automatic pistol and kill just as many, just as quickly. Banning a certain kind of gun isn't going to change a mentally unstable person's state of mind.

The weapons you are calling "assault weapons" are just regular guns. They have some beneficial features like a carbon fiber stock which makes them lighter. They may have a noise suppressor which helps protect the user's hearing. They may be camouflage in color so they are more beneficial to hunting wild animals. They aren't any more deadly than a regular rifle. In fact, there are regular-looking rifles that are much more powerful than an AR-15 or AK-47.

Will you please stop for a minute and think about the number of people killed in numerous attacks across the UK in the past few months? These people have the most strict anti-gun laws in the world... did it prevent people from dying? NO! Look at Chicago... a city with the most stringent gun laws in America and you have more people being shot and killed there daily than in Afghanistan and Iraq. Banning guns doesn't stop people from being killed.

You dickweeds do realize that by stating how other weapons can kill just as quickly that you are arguing there is no need for assault type weapons.

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

OOOH OOH I know I know

The bottom one looks scarier

Diane Feinstein would be crapping her granny panties upon seeing all that extra plastic on a .22 rifle.

 

[RealDave]

You dickweeds do realize that by stating how other weapons can kill just as quickly that you are arguing there is no need for assault type weapons.

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

OOOH OOH I know I know

The bottom one looks scarier

Diane Feinstein would be crapping her granny panties upon seeing all that extra plastic on a .22 rifle.

I would too wanting to know what kind of whacho fanatic wants their 22 to look like that. Crazy fucker alert!!!!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

OOOH OOH I know I know

The bottom one looks scarier

Diane Feinstein would be crapping her granny panties upon seeing all that extra plastic on a .22 rifle.

I would too wanting to know what kind of whacho fanatic wants their 22 to look like that. Crazy fucker alert!!!!!!

yeah it looks scary so it has to be banned

 

[Divine Wind]

And you still don't get it that the average everyday semiautomatic rifle that has been around since the 1860's is NOT an "assault" weapon

Look buttweed, I am aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons.

One difference is in available clip / magazine size

SInce you claim to be "aware of semi-automatic rifles and that would not be considered assault type weapons", please define, in your view, what "assault weapons" should be banned and how they are different from regular ol' semi-auto rifles.

OOOH OOH I know I know

The bottom one looks scarier

Diane Feinstein would be crapping her granny panties upon seeing all that extra plastic on a .22 rifle.

I would too wanting to know what kind of whacho fanatic wants their 22 to look like that. Crazy fucker alert!!!!!!

Translation: Lock'em up! Next, anyone who pimps up their car or makes it looks like a race car needs to be put into an insane asylum.

Thanks for you fanaticism and authoritarianism. No fucking wonder you dodged the bet.