Another Debate Audience Recites Pledge when Moderator says "no!"

[SFC Ollie]

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

 

[RadiomanATL]

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

Don't get worked up about. Curvey is the classic stick-fingers-in-ears-and-go-lalalala. Even in the face of overwhelming and indisputable evidence. He'll never admit to being wrong, even when he so clearly is.

 

[SFC Ollie]

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

Don't get worked up about. Curvey is the classic stick-fingers-in-ears-and-go-lalalala. Even in the face of overwhelming and indisputable evidence. He'll never admit to being wrong, even when he so clearly is.

I know, but I'll keep throwing it in his face anyway. That's why he turned off his rep. And was in here under invisible sign in. He's a coward who can't admit when he is wrong. Which is most of the time. He gets beat up pretty bad in conspiracies too.

 

[LiberalNut]

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

That section only refers to active duty folks butt munch. How about me? Can I wear my uniform to a debate?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Well, we can't blame it on the Army, so there is some other cause. You do realize both Bush & Cheney admitted their roles as ording the use of war crimes, don't you? Or do you think those public confessions were had through torture and duress? Nah, it wasn't that was it? So it is back to same question, do you believe in Liberty & Justice for All??

Yes I believe in Liberty & Justice for All.

What does your wet dreams about Bush and Cheney have to do with it?

Have you been licking my shorts again? As for B/C, it has to do with first recognizing a war crime when you see it, and understanding an admission of a crime makes you guilty. That is why smart criminals plead not guilty. B/C publically plead guilty to War Crimes. See how that works now? If I pubically admitted I slit your throat I would be guilty of murder. Not that I would do that to you per say.

You do realize war crimes were committed, yes?? That when you rape, torture or murder a POW, it is a war crime?? That we have tried people and sentenced them to death for water boarding, for example, not that is the only crime B/C authorized or were in charge of.

Nice try..Doesn't wash. Bush nor Cheney were charged nor was the idea of charging either one of them with a crime ever glossed.
Your entire insipid usless point is moot.
It sickens me and every other American who wants terrorism wiped out that there are so many of you who weep for the terrorist and curse the military.
These people are providing you with the freedom to have the ability to make idiotic comments and the you question the methods by which they provide that freedom.
It is my hope the your time of need never comes. But if it does, you can tell that person in uniform exactly what you think and that person will despise the ground on which you walk yet he or she is dutybound to assist you in that time of need.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

The audience is not supposed to be part of the debate. Murphy made them so

You going to create another hack Democrat law to outlaw this conduct in the future, start a new department stuffed with Democrat civilian employees to monitor debate conduct, and and gee, I hope they pay INTO Social Security???????????

 

[RadiomanATL]

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

That section only refers to active duty folks butt munch. How about me? Can I wear my uniform to a debate?

The discussion was centering around active duty personnel.

Retired, I think you can do what you want. It may be against the "rules", but since you are retired or discharged, there's not much of anything they can do to you.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

That section only refers to active duty folks butt munch. How about me? Can I wear my uniform to a debate?

How the hell would I know? Who are you? What uniform do you wear?

 

[thereisnospoon]

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Now bentDick, STFU You are wrong.

Don't get worked up about. Curvey is the classic stick-fingers-in-ears-and-go-lalalala. Even in the face of overwhelming and indisputable evidence. He'll never admit to being wrong, even when he so clearly is.

I know, but I'll keep throwing it in his face anyway. That's why he turned off his rep. And was in here under invisible sign in. He's a coward who can't admit when he is wrong. Which is most of the time. He gets beat up pretty bad in conspiracies too.

Sgt, There is no need to justify yourself to a chicken footed better red than dead jagoff like curve...

 

[uscitizen]

Yet another right winger false outrage thread.

 

[LiberalNut]

What uniform do you wear?

Though I don't think it would fit anymore, my uniform would be that of a staff sgt. in the USAF. My question is, can I wear my uniform to a debate, yes or no.

And, my original question still stands. Would you expect a bunch of uniformed folks like myself to ignore the rules and recite the pledge to show how patriotic they are? Yes or no.

You see, you've deliberately sidetracked the discussion cause you don't want to face the truth here. You, as someone who took the oath to support and defend, should be offended by the way these folks are trying to use the pledge. But you aren't.

Why?

 

[kyzr]

What uniform do you wear?

Though I don't think it would fit anymore, my uniform would be that of a staff sgt. in the USAF. My question is, can I wear my uniform to a debate, yes or no.

And, my original question still stands. Would you expect a bunch of uniformed folks like myself to ignore the rules and recite the pledge to show how patriotic they are? Yes or no.

You see, you've deliberately sidetracked the discussion cause you don't want to face the truth here. You, as someone who took the oath to support and defend, should be offended by the way these folks are trying to use the pledge. But you aren't.

Why?

Why do you think the VRWC is misusing the pledge? Sometimes the Pledge is just the Pledge.

 

[LiberalNut]

Why do you think the VRWC is misusing the pledge?

They use it as a litmus test to define the "in" group from the "out" group. The supposed "patriotism" being expressed isn't patriotism at all. It's divide and conquer.

 

[blu]

Oh man, when a fool starts blathering just get out of their way and let 'em!

so no rebuttal? are you aware of the history of the pledge and its purpose?

Yeah, it's a big conspiracy! Wikipedia says so!

Like I said. When a fool starts blathering just get out of the way!

I am still hoping this was a joke. google bellamy pledge for other references since we all know wikipedia is a liberal conspiracy

 

[sitarro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

Who the hell butchered our National Anthem in this clip? Oh and Obama is an asshole.

 

[JBeukema]

Soldiers in Uniform would not be attending a political debate. At least they shouldn't be attending. And in 22 years on active duty the only times I remember reciting the pledge in uniform was at formal Military dinners. The Military follows strict protocol.There is no debate.

wait... vets shouldn't attend political debates so they can be educated when they go to the voting booths?

They should just... obey... the GOP's orders?

He said in uniform

And that I can agree with. In uniform you are representing more than yourself.

I, uh... missed that when I read it the first time

Not the first error I've ever made; probably won't be the last.

I'm just gonna... sit back down now...

 

[JBeukema]

j. Wearing Army uniforms is prohibited in the following situations:
(1) In connection with the furtherance of any political or commercial interests, or when engaged in off-duty civilian
employment.
(2) When participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except
as authorized by competent authority.
(3) When attending any meeting or event that is a function of, or is sponsored by, an extremist organization.

http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r670_1.pdf

I'm curious as to how they define 'extremist organization'

 

[JBeukema]

Of course you would agree with an ignorant claim. When it suits your agenda.

I suggest you research the difference between a claim and a fact. Unless you wish to further embarrass yourself.

My guess is that you will choose the latter.

Why doesn't your dumbass post the evidence that unilaterally bars an active duty soldier from attentding a political debate in uniform?

Because he didn't claim that?

Soldiers in Uniform would not be attending a political debate. At least they shouldn't be attending. And in 22 years on active duty the only times I remember reciting the pledge in uniform was at formal Military dinners. The Military follows strict protocol.There is no debate.

'would not' and 'should' not appear.

Nowhere does he say there's a regulation universally barring ti.

 

[JBeukema]

2 is a separate reg concerning the wearing of a uniform.

All that is required is that #1 be true. It is. Therefore you lose.

Again.

Like I said, your response would prove you don't care about the facts. Number one is in regards to a specific political interest, which is definitely not applicable to a debate dumbass. If it's a debate and the soldier is in the audience how could you determine which side of the debate the soldier has taken? You can't but you'll continue ignoring the facts.

#1 is furthering a political interest.

You lose. Again.

Attending a debate is furthering an interest?

isn't that a bit of a stretch?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Like I said, your response would prove you don't care about the facts. Number one is in regards to a specific political interest, which is definitely not applicable to a debate dumbass. If it's a debate and the soldier is in the audience how could you determine which side of the debate the soldier has taken? You can't but you'll continue ignoring the facts.

#1 is furthering a political interest.

You lose. Again.

Attending a debate is furthering an interest?

isn't that a bit of a stretch?

Not according to the military.