Another case of USA allowing a Communist dictator to ruin a country that had a good leader.

[RandomPoster]

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

 

[Lesh]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

Cuba was best before Batista.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

Compared to castro

 

[bripat9643]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

Compared to Barack Obama.

 

[Lesh]

Huh?

Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (/bəˈtiːstə/;[1] Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβaɾ]; born Rubén Zaldívar;[2] January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and the U.S.-backed authoritarian ruler from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown during the Cuban Revolution. Batista initially rose to power as part of the 1933 Revolt of the Sergeants, which overthrew the provisional government of Carlos Manuel de Céspedes y Quesada. He then appointed himself chief of the armed forces, with the rank of colonel, and effectively controlled the five-member "pentarchy" that functioned as the collective head of state. He maintained this control through a string of puppet presidents until 1940, when he was himself elected President of Cuba on a populist platform.[3][4] He then instated the 1940 Constitution of Cuba [5]and served until 1944. After finishing his term he lived in Florida, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup against President Carlos Prío Socarrás that preempted the election.[6]

 

[DOTR]

Always kids they are after isnt it?

You know, come to think of it, when Russia banned homosexual men from adopting young boys and bringing them back to New York was about when Democrats began becoming really obsessed with Russia hatred. Of course they never got over their resentment of the USSR collapse but cutting off gay adoptions is when it really began heating up.

Edit... I just looked it up. July 2013. And shortly afterwards Russia banned homosexual propaganda. As late as 2012 Obama was telling Russians to wait until after the election when he would be free to sell out to them without danger. And it was fall of 2012 that he attacked Romney for saying that Russia was a foe to be wary of.
Coincidence?

 

[bripat9643]

Huh?

Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (/bəˈtiːstə/;[1] Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβaɾ]; born Rubén Zaldívar;[2] January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and the U.S.-backed authoritarian ruler from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown during the Cuban Revolution. Batista initially rose to power as part of the 1933 Revolt of the Sergeants, which overthrew the provisional government of Carlos Manuel de Céspedes y Quesada. He then appointed himself chief of the armed forces, with the rank of colonel, and effectively controlled the five-member "pentarchy" that functioned as the collective head of state. He maintained this control through a string of puppet presidents until 1940, when he was himself elected President of Cuba on a populist platform.[3][4] He then instated the 1940 Constitution of Cuba [5]and served until 1944. After finishing his term he lived in Florida, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup against President Carlos Prío Socarrás that preempted the election.[6]

Your point? How does this make Castro a better leader?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

It's not the USA's fault. Commies gonna commie.

We just need to make sure we brutally execute all American commies to keep them from doing the same here.

 

[Lesh]

Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government,[7][8] Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Eventually it reached the point where most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land.[10] As such, Batista's repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinationalcompanies who were awarded lucrative contracts.[9][11] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from hundreds to 20,000 people.[12][13][14][15][16][17]

Of COURSE Republicans love this creep

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government,[7][8] Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Eventually it reached the point where most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land.[10] As such, Batista's repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinationalcompanies who were awarded lucrative contracts.[9][11] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from hundreds to 20,000 people.[12][13][14][15][16][17]

Of COURSE Republicans love this creep

Sounds like Batista was doing the right track executing commies.

There is no liberty with commies. The must die.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

Compared to castro

Yeah, but Batista enabled Castro's rise to power.

 

[DOTR]

Batista was a good leader? Compared to who? Pol Pot?

Compared to castro

Yeah, but Batista enabled Castro's rise to power.

Batista was much much better than Castro. As you pointed out the living standards were much higher. And the prison camps less full.
My grandfather owned land and a house in Cuba and my mother spent summers there. They say it was a beautiful place.
You know who else said it? Hundreds of thousands of Cubans who fled to Florida. That’s why Florida was so reliably Republican for so long. People who lived under communism are NOT going to be fooled into voting democrat.

 

[RandomPoster]

Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government,[7][8] Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Eventually it reached the point where most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land.[10] As such, Batista's repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinationalcompanies who were awarded lucrative contracts.[9][11] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from hundreds to 20,000 people.[12][13][14][15][16][17]

Of COURSE Republicans love this creep

Again:

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

"However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water."

That was actually good for that region in 1950.


Notice how some people focus entirely on the wage GAP. They don't see a problem when EVERYONE is poor and starving, as long as the gap shrinks and everyone is poor and starving together.

 

[Pogo]

Huh?

Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (/bəˈtiːstə/;[1] Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβaɾ]; born Rubén Zaldívar;[2] January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and the U.S.-backed authoritarian ruler from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown during the Cuban Revolution. Batista initially rose to power as part of the 1933 Revolt of the Sergeants, which overthrew the provisional government of Carlos Manuel de Céspedes y Quesada. He then appointed himself chief of the armed forces, with the rank of colonel, and effectively controlled the five-member "pentarchy" that functioned as the collective head of state. He maintained this control through a string of puppet presidents until 1940, when he was himself elected President of Cuba on a populist platform.[3][4] He then instated the 1940 Constitution of Cuba [5]and served until 1944. After finishing his term he lived in Florida, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup against President Carlos Prío Socarrás that preempted the election.[6]

Your point? How does this make Castro a better leader?

The title says "a good leader", not "a better leader than (fill in your partisan hack term here)".

 

[Lesh]

Yeah, but Batista enabled Castro's rise to power.

Read the thread title genius.

Cuba was a corrupt dictatorship in league with the mob and a bunch of rich fucks.

People were starving and being killed by the government so of COURSE Republicans admire that model

Am I touting Castro? Not even close but the thread title is a LIE

Cuba was NOT some friggin paradise unless you were in the Mob or in the good graces of the corrupt dictator

 

[deanrd]

Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government,[7][8] Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Eventually it reached the point where most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land.[10] As such, Batista's repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinationalcompanies who were awarded lucrative contracts.[9][11] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from hundreds to 20,000 people.[12][13][14][15][16][17]

Of COURSE Republicans love this creep

Again:

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1950s, Cuba's gross domestic product (GDP) per capita was roughly equal to that of Italy at the time"

Cuba GDP in 2015 = $87.13 billion USD

Italy GDP in 2015 = $1.8 trillion USD

"According to the International Labour Organization, the average industrial salary in Cuba was the world's eighth-highest in 1958, and the average agricultural wage was higher than some European nations."

"However, despite an array of positive indicators, in 1953, the average Cuban family only had an income of $6.00 a week, 15% to 20% of the labor force was chronically unemployed, and only a third of the homes had running water."

That was actually good for that region in 1950.


Notice how some people focus entirely on the wage GAP. They don't see a problem when EVERYONE is poor and starving, as long as the gap shrinks and everyone is poor and starving together.

So it's better when only the majority are suffering?

Got it!

 

[RandomPoster]

Yeah, but Batista enabled Castro's rise to power.

Read the thread title genius.

Cuba was a corrupt dictatorship in league with the mob and a bunch of rich fucks.

People were starving and being killed by the government so of COURSE Republicans admire that model

Am I touting Castro? Not even close but the thread title is a LIE

Cuba was NOT some friggin paradise unless you were in the Mob or in the good graces of the corrupt dictator

The things listed were not THAT bad for the time and region of the world. Cuba was doing well for the time and the area, with a GDP roughly equal to that of Italy. Under Castro, they have about 5% the GDP of Italy.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, but Batista enabled Castro's rise to power.

Read the thread title genius.

Cuba was a corrupt dictatorship in league with the mob and a bunch of rich fucks.

People were starving and being killed by the government so of COURSE Republicans admire that model

Am I touting Castro? Not even close but the thread title is a LIE

Cuba was NOT some friggin paradise unless you were in the Mob or in the good graces of the corrupt dictator

The things listed were not THAT bad for the time and region of the world. Cuba was doing well for the time and the area, with a GDP roughly equal to that of Italy. Under Castro, they have about 5% the GDP of Italy.

Without bothering to vet that number, how much of it is due to the US cutting Cuba off in a hissyfit?

 

[Lesh]

Unfortunately that GDP was mostly in casinos run by the friggin mob and sugar plantations run by Batista's buddies

Folks...these Republicans truly admire this. They'd GLADLY do it here