No, smashing the system is my observation of what Trump and his followers themselves characterize what they're doing. Have you not been paying attention all this time?
Thanks for the backpedaling, temporizing, and word-parsing. Now that you're done inadequately trying to CYA and walk back your attacks, let me point out that you did not say, "Cruz and Kasich don't have degrees in economics, they'll hire economists to work for them". You said, "Neither understand the economy". Repeatedly. You then followed up with, "None of the candidates understand the economy." There is a difference. No one has ever suggested that either Cruz or Kasich has a degree in economics, or that it is their field of expertise, or that they intend to rely only on their own knowledge and expertise in that area. Donald Trump, on the other hand, HAS suggested that being rich makes him an economic expert, and that he WILL rely primarily on his own "good brain" and self-advice.
Nevertheless, one does not have to be an economist to have a general grounding in and understanding of basic economics and how it does and should intersect with the government. I can't speak for Kasich, because I find him utterly uninteresting, but I can tell you that Ted Cruz DOES have that understanding. He also has the necessary understanding and wisdom to choose economic advisers who are not talking out their ivory-tower, never-worked-in-the-real-world, I-have-a-great-theory asses.
You did, in fact, say Trump/Kasich. But I sincerely doubt that Bernie Sanders wants anything to do with Trump, either.
Quotation marks do not just signify direct quotes. They also serve to indicate paraphrases and irony. If you want to have an honest and mature debate/discussion, you're going to have to learn not to project your limited grammatical skills, laced with butthurt, onto me.
So can I assume you are a Cruz supporter, and that your liberal use of quotation marks is generally intended as irony. Sorry, I missed that context.
You may assume if you wish, or if you wish to be courteous, you could ask.
My original post topic was a third party run by a Trump/Bernie ticket. I did in fact misstate in a later post Trump/Kasish. Sorry for that.
It happens. I'm often posting with a seven-year-old running in and out of the room, screaming like a dervish, at which point I'm doing good to put together a coherent sentence.
You maybe right that Bernster wouldn't want to have anything to do with Trump, but you never know when you dangle a VPship in front of him. It would give him a larger platform to spew his socialistic views, and all these guys are major egomaniacs. And when you consider that nobody really knows what the Trumpsters real political agenda is (maybe somebody does, I certainly don't), Bernie may think he can advance his agenda.
Honestly, Bernie Sanders doesn't even vaguely strike me as someone who has EVER cared about his own personal power, prestige, and position. Whatever else he is, he comes off as a sincere and impassioned ideologue. I disagree vehemently with every single thing he says and believes, but he has given me no reason to think he's not genuine.
That being said, it's hard to imagine him having any reason or desire to align himself with a campaign that's so completely about Narcissus-on-Fifth-Avenue and his lifelong love affair with himself. If I can figure out that Donald Trump doesn't give the platform to anyone else, Bernie can figure it out, too. His agenda isn't difficult to suss out (although I think it's a stretch to call it a
political agenda): he's a giant, overinflated ego on legs.
In regards to political leaders and there understanding of the economy in general- My view is that virtually all these candidates are less inclined to act in what they think is in the best interest of the country economically, but rather what is in their best interest politically. Sure, they all have some basic ideological platform Economically. Bernie and Hillary are clearly more socialistic and favor various degrees of wealth distribution and government control, Teddy is more free market based, restraint of government, and inclined to private sector. You can say they all have basic knowledge of economics and how it should or does intersect with government. My opinion is they don't have a very deep understanding of cause and effect with regard to economic policy. Donald Trump is the only canidate to never vote to increase the staggering federal debt which is over $19 trillion, but I also assume the debt will likely increase under Trump or any other canidate who wins.
If I may ask, on what are you basing this blanket view of "all these candidates"? Is it something specific in their individual backgrounds and records, or is it general ennui and a love of sounded
pseudo-sophisticated and jaded? I add the last because such things are so incredibly rampant, to the point of the ridiculous. Some people are just so enamored of yawning and saying, "All politicians are corrupt. These are not our best and brightest", regardless of who's actually being discussed, that they don't even waste time finding a reason to say it any more, but jump right to the shitting on them all generally part.
I really would prefer to engage in a politically based discussion, and I am not here to try and make those with a different political view look silly or call them names. Am I in the wrong place?
Honestly, it depends on who you talk to and how you talk to them.
This message board is like any other group of human beings, generally speaking: the idiots outnumber the intelligent on any given day, and membership in both sides changes frequently.
Most of the people here are more informed and politically involved than your average American, but that doesn't always mean they're thinking coherently about the information they have. And it's not a place for the faint-of-heart or the easily-offended, because very few people here, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum, are much interested in being nice.
That being said, if you have a thick skin and are prepared to state your positions logically and with substantiation, and then to hold your ground and defend them vigorously, you can find people who will respond in kind.
