Andrew Yang the latest to "launch" a third party

[MinTrut]

Why stop at three parties? Why not four, five or six.

Concur.

Why not have what the Germans have, 47 parties running and no one is expected to get more than 30% of the vote.

Excellent.

 

[MinTrut]

The more the better.

That way the fucking government can't fuck up more shit.

Gridlock is good

They'll find a way, as in Germany, but the more parties the better.

 

[MinTrut]

With ranked choice voting, no one wins without majority support.

Nonsense; just more smoke & mirrors.

 

[JoeB131]

The more the better.

That way the fucking government can't fuck up more shit.

Gridlock is good

Wow... um, yeah, this is what happens when you let the Koch Brothers tell you what to think.

With ranked choice voting, no one wins without majority support.

Actually, given what we saw in NYC, and what a clusterfuck that was, I think we can be done with Ranked Choice voting.

LOL - we don't have "vigorous debate". We have hyper-partisan jackasses flinging their poo at each other.

Um, that's what debate is... having discussions...

 

[JoeB131]

Not any which affect policy (your point before you moved the goalposts), no.

That wing is almost as dangerous to the working/middle class as the Democrat wing, yes.

Or rather it was until Democrats starting burning the country down in 2016.

Trump: 5th worst president of the century so far!

Uh, let's look at that.
600,000 dead from Covid.
65, MILLION jobs lost
riots in the streets.

Um, sorry, you have to go back to Buchanan to find that level of fuckup.

Historic ignorance & homophobia noted; your bigotry is truly...

...liberal.

Pointing out Buchanan was a terrible president and gay isn't ignorant of history or homophobic. It's just stating facts.

No; I've already addressed this, and repeatedly.

You're either trolling, or have some issue which prevents you from processing basic concepts.

You haven't addressed it, and the fact that you can't address the history of the Reform Party as a bunch of loons that got government subsidies.

The funniest thing is the Libertarian Party running to try to get five percent so they'll finally qualify for federal matching funds. If that isn't irony, I don't know what is.

 

[Blues Man]

Wow... um, yeah, this is what happens when you let the Koch Brothers tell you what to think.



Actually, given what we saw in NYC, and what a clusterfuck that was, I think we can be done with Ranked Choice voting.



Um, that's what debate is... having discussions...

No this is what happens when you're young and stupid and trust the government to have your best interests at heart. you're just old and stupid because you still think the government has your best interests at heart.

20 years of data reveals that Congress doesn't care what you think.

For the last few years, I've had this sense that everything I learned as a kid about how America's government works is completely wrong. But I had no idea how bad things actually were until I saw one simple graph.

www.upworthy.com

 

[dblack]

Actually, given what we saw in NYC, and what a clusterfuck that was, I think we can be done with Ranked Choice voting.

Given that it's a direct threat to the duopoly, I'm not at all surprised you're eager to steer around it.

Fortunately, lots of us are fed up with your two-party shitshow.

 

[Mac1958]

Update!

Yang’s new party will be called ‘The Forward Party’

Former presidential candidate Andrew Yang’s new third party will be called “The Forward Party,” he reportedly says in his upcoming book. Business Insider reported that t…

thehill.com

Business Insider reported that the name was revealed near the end of Yang's book entitled "Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy."

The book also details the principles that will guide Yang's party, including "ranked-choice voting and open primaries," "fact-based governance" and "human-centered capitalism." It will also promote a "universal basic income," an idea that helped him gain some traction in the 2020 presidential primary.

More to come!

 

[dblack]

Update!

Yang’s new party will be called ‘The Forward Party’

Former presidential candidate Andrew Yang’s new third party will be called “The Forward Party,” he reportedly says in his upcoming book. Business Insider reported that t…

thehill.com

Business Insider reported that the name was revealed near the end of Yang's book entitled "Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy."

The book also details the principles that will guide Yang's party, including "ranked-choice voting and open primaries," "fact-based governance" and "human-centered capitalism." It will also promote a "universal basic income," an idea that helped him gain some traction in the 2020 presidential primary.

More to come!

I like the nod to "ranked-choice voting".

But "Fact based governance" is just a platitude, and "human-centered capitalism" is socialist sloganeering. Universal basic income isn't a slogan.

 

[JoeB131]

No this is what happens when you're young and stupid and trust the government to have your best interests at heart. you're just old and stupid because you still think the government has your best interests at heart.

Actually, it's quite the opposite... the problem with government is that it caters to our collective whims. We want government to do all this stuff for us, we don't want to pay for it or make the efforts.

Oh, keep us safe from Crime, but don't try to take guns away from people who shouldn't have them.
Oh, provide us with all these benefits, but don't make us pay taxes.
Oh, provide us with a vaccine against this deadly disease, but don't make us take it unless we want to.

Well, you get the idea. We have met the enemy and he is us.

 

[JoeB131]

Business Insider reported that the name was revealed near the end of Yang's book entitled "Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy."

The book also details the principles that will guide Yang's party, including "ranked-choice voting and open primaries," "fact-based governance" and "human-centered capitalism." It will also promote a "universal basic income," an idea that helped him gain some traction in the 2020 presidential primary.

More to come!

How you can tell that what Yang proposes is stupid. Vichy Mac likes it.

Vichy Mac was the guy who thought Jim Webb (the guy who likes to quit jobs in a huff) would be an awesome president in 2016.

 

[MinTrut]

Uh, let's look at that.
600,000 dead from Covid.
65, MILLION jobs lost
riots in the streets.

The Democrats did incredible damage with their CovidScam, yes.

Um, sorry, you have to go back to Buchanan to find that level of fuckup.

See above.

Pointing out Buchanan was a terrible president and gay

You used a homophobic slur to underline your ignorant claims.

isn't ignorant of history or homophobic. It's just stating facts.

See above.

You haven't addressed it,

False.

and the fact that you can't address the history of the Reform Party as a bunch of loons that got government subsidies.

Makes no sense.

The funniest thing is the Libertarian Party running to try to get five percent so they'll finally qualify for federal matching funds.

We get it - you HATE anything genuinely democratic.

If that isn't irony, I don't know what is.

I believe you don't know what irony is.

Among other massive pockets of ignorance.

 

[MinTrut]

Given that it's a direct threat to the duopoly, I'm not at all surprised you're eager to steer around it.

Fortunately, lots of us are fed up with your two-party shitshow.

Marry me!

 

[MinTrut]

Update!

Yang’s new party will be called ‘The Forward Party’

Former presidential candidate Andrew Yang’s new third party will be called “The Forward Party,” he reportedly says in his upcoming book. Business Insider reported that t…

thehill.com

Business Insider reported that the name was revealed near the end of Yang's book entitled "Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy."

The book also details the principles that will guide Yang's party, including "ranked-choice voting and open primaries," "fact-based governance" and "human-centered capitalism." It will also promote a "universal basic income," an idea that helped him gain some traction in the 2020 presidential primary.

More to come!

RCV is shite, but some good stuff.

If the Democrats don't destroy the party in my state, I may vote for him.

 

[JoeB131]

The Democrats did incredible damage with their CovidScam, yes.

Wow, so you are a crazy person, then? I mean, I need to gage the level of crazy before responding.

You used a homophobic slur to underline your ignorant claims.

Um, no, people called Buchanan a Nancy-boy in his own time. He was Rufus King's bitch.

The 175-Year History of Speculating About President James Buchanan's Bachelorhood

Was his close friendship with William Rufus King just that, or was it evidence that he was the nation's first gay chief executive?

www.smithsonianmag.com

Makes no sense.

Did you need someone to explain the big words to you.

We get it - you HATE anything genuinely democratic.

Not at all... My point about the Libertarians is that they don't really hope to win or even put people in office, but to just get enough of the vote so they can start qualifying for government funding... from a party that thinks government shouldn't be funding anything.

It's like the Vegan party trying to raise enough money to win a steak dinner...

Man, you are dense.

 

[MinTrut]

Wow, so you are a crazy person, then?

Irrelevant/fallacious trolling/derailing.

I mean, I need to gage the level of crazy before responding.

See above.

Um, no, people called Buchanan a Nancy-boy in his own time.

Irrelevant to your profund bigotry/homophobia.

He was Rufus King's bitch.

See above.

The 175-Year History of Speculating About President James Buchanan's Bachelorhood

Was his close friendship with William Rufus King just that, or was it evidence that he was the nation's first gay chief executive?

www.smithsonianmag.com

See above.

Did you need someone to explain the big words to you.

Compounding your nonsense/trolling.

Not at all... My point about the Libertarians is that they don't really hope to win or even put people in office, but to just get enough of the vote so they can start qualifying for government funding... from a party that thinks government shouldn't be funding anything.

Bizarre/fallacious/presumptuous claim without basis in fact.

It's like the Vegan party trying to raise enough money to win a steak dinner...

See above.

Man, you are dense.

Irrelevant/fallacious trolling/derailing.

 

[JoeB131]

Irrelevant/fallacious trolling/derailing.

Sorry, man, I know you really need to believe they are trying to put a microchip in your ass when they give you a vaccine... it's all part of the deep state plan to track you, muh-huh-huh-huh-huh. (I've stopped taking you seriously, by the way.)

Irrelevant to your profund bigotry/homophobia.

Not at all. Buchanan was a seriously fucked up dude, and he caused the Civil War through sheer fucking incompetence... Oh, and he was light in the loafers.

Bizarre/fallacious/presumptuous claim without basis in fact.

Yes, we know, the concept is too complicated for you.

Roemer and Johnson get more federal matching funds

The Federal Election Commission on Tuesday authorized matching funds for two third-party presidential candidates — former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer and former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson.Roemer …

thehill.com

 

[dblack]

RCV is shite, ...

Why do you say that? It's the only thing he's proposed that I actually like.

If the Democrats don't destroy the party in my state, I may vote for him.

I'll pass. The "social credit" crap is creepy, and tells me that his ideas on the proper role of government don't align with mine at all.

 

[dblack]

Not at all... My point about the Libertarians is ...

You have some very silly misconceptions about Libertarians. But they do oppose your totalitarian wet dreams, so it's obvious why you want to smear them.

 

[MinTrut]

Why do you say that?

Smoke and mirrors; garbage distraction; it would not have been attempted if it were emblematic of real change and empowerment of The People.

It's the only thing he's proposed that I actually like.

It's garbage as long as the two crime gangs control everything.

I'll pass.

Sorry to hear that.

The "social credit" crap is creepy,

Agreed, but no candidate is perfect.

and tells me that his ideas on the proper role of government don't align with mine at all.

Fair enough.