And you want to know why I support Israel?

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."
i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.
The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.
so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.
a prisoner exchange doesn't exactly cover what i'm talking about.
let's say that the two men who committed the synagogue murders were hiding.
how many innocent palestinians would be acceptable collateral damage?
 
i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.
The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.
so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.
...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."
i don't have any cute rhymes about ethnic cleansing.
Edited that to read 'genocide', didja?

If it was genocide, there would not be one single Muslim-Arab man, woman or child left alive, in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, or in Gaza.

As to your original accusation of 'ethnic cleansing'...

You mean like the ethnic cleansing of a half-million or so Jews from Muslim lands during the 1948-1975 timeframe?

Payback's a *****, when those doing the paying back have been thought of as impotent Dhimmis for so many centuries, eh?

Surprise.
just so long as you recognize it for what it was.

We don't.
what would you call chasing people off of their land because of their different ethnicity?
 
So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."
i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.
The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.
so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.
That's 1027 convicted terrorists, 280 were serving a life sentence.
 
As neither is the entire population of Palestinians!

Aha, so that's why people were eating sweets and dancing in the streets, and why murderers like these are idolized by the Palestinian media, streets are named after them, and the govt. posts their pictures all over the place, encouraging more behavior like this. :cuckoo:

You and yours who believe that YOU are the righteous ones and freaking idiots!

It's ok for Israelis to 'celebrate' murder is it?

A god given right no doubt!

Well, when you see him, god that is... No, wait, think you will be going somewhere a lot warmer with your vile, belligerent views!

Enjoy!

Israelis don't "celebrate murder", asshole, Palestinians on the other hand have a national pastime of celebrating terrorists and the death of innocents. They are truly a depraved, barbaric culture and people, not much different that their fellow Muslims I have to admit.



Did you watch the video of Israelis dancing in the streets during the bombing of Gaza??

Though, I am sure you will tell me that is different because they are dancing in a land that was given to them by god, whoever she is...


I told you dork, Hamas forced Israel to go to war. Those are right wingers chanting in the midst of an all out war with missiles being shot at Israel by Palestinians.

And you compare THAT to an unprovoked barbaric attack on four old men during worship, and then subsequent celebrations in the streets of Gaza and West Bank? Keep trying to justify Palestinian savagery and using these idiotic false comparisons, it's not going to work.

Do Palestinians generally celebrate the the targeting and murder of civilians and children, and laud the murderers as heroes.

"A majority of Palestinians say that suicide bombing is often or sometimes justified “in order to defend Islam from its enemies,” according to a new Pew Research survey.

“Support for suicide bombing and other violence aimed at civilian targets is most widespread in the Palestinian territories, with 62% of Muslims saying that such attacks are often or sometimes justified in order to defend Islam from its enemies,” the report said.

Muslims polled in the Palestinian territories were the only group to express majority support for suicide bombings, the Washington Free Beacon noted. A majority of Muslims polled in countries like Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey said suicide bombings are “never” justified in the name of Islam."

SEE ALSO: Palestinian Authority deputy: If we had a nuke, we’d have bombed Israel


Read more: Majority of Palestinians say suicide bombing is often or sometimes justified poll - Washington Times
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You don't even know "dork" what you are even arguing about!

This post simply proves that once you get found out you can do nothing but throw around stupid names and bumble on about totally irrelevant, unrelated Zionist BS...

I bet you STILL wear that nice pointy hat with a big 'D' on it that you had in school...

If you REALLY are dumb enough to believe that one group of people laughing at murder is right and another group of people laughing at murder is wrong then, my 'friend', there is something seriously wrong with you!
 
There are no doubts that Israel is there to stay, and so it should stay, within it's boundaries.

Perhaps they would stay in their boundaries if Hamas would stop launching rockets at them?

DUMBASS....

Why do you think there are rocket attacks against Israel?

Because Hamas is a terrorist organization dedicated to the total destruction of Israel. Moron.

Oh I see...

And thats it is it?

Nothing to do with oppression and occupation to name but two continuing Israeli atrocities against the Palestinian people!
 
There are no doubts that Israel is there to stay, and so it should stay, within it's boundaries.

Perhaps they would stay in their boundaries if Hamas would stop launching rockets at them?

DUMBASS....

Why do you think there are rocket attacks against Israel?
Why do your answers show a flag of Jordan waving in the wind, Humanity? And why do you call yourself Humanity when you don't give a damn about all the people beheaded by ISIS?

1) Go check out your flags of the world book.
2) Who said "don't give a damn"? YOU DID NOT ME!

Don't get involved in something you clearly know nothing about!
 
i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.
The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.
so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?
I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?
so you only believe that the militant should be killed, not the innocent. okay. how do you square that with israel's actions?
I'm deeply frustrated to be honest I would be glad if nobody will have to die in the first place, violence SHOULD be the last resort and even then there are some preconditions, but if bombing (innocents)civilians along with the militants will prevent more bloodshed of another Israeli civilian(INNOCENT) yes I'll be the one pressing the button first.
This is a gray zone and I can give you plenty of stories that raised the same dilemma over and over again..but here is the only way you can realize it - given the situation where you stand right in front of your worse enemy both armed with shotguns, your family standing right behind you, your enemy raised his weapon and aiming to you and your family direction..what would you do?

Is a good analogy Daniyel...

But can you see that works both ways?

Given the situation where my enemy occupies my land, stops my freedom of movement, amongst other things, and has a bigger gun than I... What do I do then?
 
I have not for once in my life seen any Israeli bomb a mosque full of Muslims. Yet Palestinians from young to old celebrate when the lives of innocents are taken, from 9/11, the Fogel Family, the bus bombing in Tel Aviv two years ago... to this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/world/middleeast/killings-in-jerusalem-synagogue-complex.html

I pity those who support Palestine. You simply have no idea the barbarity they can employ because of their hatred. They have no respect for human life. This is why a two state solution is impossible. I hope it never happens. As long as you have two implacable enemies side by side, you will never see peace.
 
I have not for once in my life seen any Israeli bomb a mosque full of Muslims. Yet Palestinians from young to old celebrate when the lives of innocents are taken, from 9/11, the Fogel Family, the bus bombing in Tel Aviv two years ago... to this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/world/middleeast/killings-in-jerusalem-synagogue-complex.html

I pity those who support Palestine. You simply have no idea the barbarity they can employ because of their hatred. They have no respect for human life. This is why a two state solution is impossible. I hope it never happens. As long as you have two implacable enemies side by side, you will never see peace.


You do realize they may have been used as human shields, right? Why don't you even acknowledge that?
 
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There are no doubts that Israel is there to stay, and so it should stay, within it's boundaries.

Perhaps they would stay in their boundaries if Hamas would stop launching rockets at them?

DUMBASS....

Why do you think there are rocket attacks against Israel?
Why do your answers show a flag of Jordan waving in the wind, Humanity? And why do you call yourself Humanity when you don't give a damn about all the people beheaded by ISIS?

That's why he's called inhumanity.
 
The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.
so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?
I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?
so you only believe that the militant should be killed, not the innocent. okay. how do you square that with israel's actions?
I'm deeply frustrated to be honest I would be glad if nobody will have to die in the first place, violence SHOULD be the last resort and even then there are some preconditions, but if bombing (innocents)civilians along with the militants will prevent more bloodshed of another Israeli civilian(INNOCENT) yes I'll be the one pressing the button first.
This is a gray zone and I can give you plenty of stories that raised the same dilemma over and over again..but here is the only way you can realize it - given the situation where you stand right in front of your worse enemy both armed with shotguns, your family standing right behind you, your enemy raised his weapon and aiming to you and your family direction..what would you do?

Is a good analogy Daniyel...

But can you see that works both ways?

Given the situation where my enemy occupies my land, stops my freedom of movement, amongst other things, and has a bigger gun than I... What do I do then?
YOU TALK - Pointing out your case to a neutral judge, that's what every suspected criminal does, or at least should.
 
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