And you want to know why I support Israel?

[ogibillm]

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

Jews were expelled from their homeland in 70 AD. I'm sure they would have something to say about that.

met a lot of 2000 year old jews have you?

 

[Daniyel]

Ever hear the of the Balfour Declaration? Israel's national roots were sewn in 1917.

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

 

[ogibillm]

Ever hear the of the Balfour Declaration? Israel's national roots were sewn in 1917.

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

 

[TemplarKormac]

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

Jews were expelled from their homeland in 70 AD. I'm sure they would have something to say about that.

met a lot of 2000 year old jews have you?

No, we call it history. Something you seem to ignore. Were you around in 1948?

 

[ogibillm]

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

Jews were expelled from their homeland in 70 AD. I'm sure they would have something to say about that.

met a lot of 2000 year old jews have you?

No, we call it history. Something you seem to ignore. Were you around in 1948?

no. but my grandparents were. their property has stayed in the family. it will someday become mine.
there are plenty of other people that were alive in '48 though. and their kids are alive. and their grandkids. and they all know which property used to be theirs, until they were kicked out.

out of curiousity, would you turn your home over to native americans without compensation?

 

[Daniyel]

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

Jews were expelled from their homeland in 70 AD. I'm sure they would have something to say about that.

met a lot of 2000 year old jews have you?

Since 48 its called Israel, any argue with that is pointless..and yes Jews lived in Israel all these years.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

There are no doubts that Israel is there to stay, and so it should stay, within it's boundaries.

Perhaps they would stay in their boundaries if Hamas would stop launching rockets at them?

DUMBASS....

Why do you think there are rocket attacks against Israel?

Why do your answers show a flag of Jordan waving in the wind, Humanity? And why do you call yourself Humanity when you don't give a damn about all the people beheaded by ISIS?

 

[Kondor3]

That is what happens in war.

You kill more of the Bad Guys than they do of you.

Until they finally get tired of it and quit.

And, if they need additional encouragement, you keep upping the kill-ratio in your favor, until they take the hint.

Thus has it been since time immemorial.

6 Million Jews vs. a Billion Muslims. Guess which side is going to run out of people first.

You make the mistake of believing that most Muslims have a sufficient hard-on against Israel, to actually go to war against her.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Hell, the Muslims in Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, et al, have tried to demolish Israel several times since 1948...

And failed miserably, each and every time, usually getting their asses kicked in highly disproportionate numbers...

No, Israel has little to fear from Islam at-large - little more than do Europe and the US and the rest of Western Civilization, anyway...

And, given that Israel is a regional superpower, equipped with hundreds of nuclear warheads, and world-class delivery systems...

I don't think they have much to worry about, in the context of a broader Jihad against Israel, in the foreseeable future...

What I said in the original of this sequence still stands...

The way to win a war is to kill more of the Bad Guys than they kill of yours...

Every time that the idiotic Palestinians attack, the Israelis should continue to retaliate in massively disproportionate numbers...

Until the Palestinians give up, and run-up the white flag, or pack up and move, or both...

 

[Kondor3]

...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...

The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

 

[Daniyel]

Ever hear the of the Balfour Declaration? Israel's national roots were sewn in 1917.

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people

Confirmation that there was indeed a Palestine.

Sorry, the Romans named the area in 135 AD, known as Syria Palestina. It was a merger of Roman Syria and the Roman province of Judea after the defeat of Bar Kokhba Revolt in 135. It was an attempt to disassociate the Jews from their homeland.

Confirmation that Israel existed before Palestine.

because what happened in 135 ad is completely relevant to the 21st century.

Maybe to you it's irelevant, but it's relevant to us Jews.

 

[ogibillm]

...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...

The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

i don't have any cute rhymes about ethnic cleansing.

 

[ogibillm]

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?

so you only believe that the militant should be killed, not the innocent. okay. how do you square that with israel's actions?

 

[Kondor3]

...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...

The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

i don't have any cute rhymes about ethnic cleansing.

Edited that to read 'genocide', didja?

If it was genocide, there would not be one single Muslim-Arab man, woman or child left alive, in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, or in Gaza.

Hyperbole...

Rubbish...

As to your original accusation of 'ethnic cleansing'...

You mean like the ethnic cleansing of a half-million or so Jews from Muslim lands during the 1948-1975 timeframe?

Payback's a *****, when those doing the paying back have been thought of as impotent Dhimmis for so many centuries, eh?

Surprise.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Ever hear the of the Balfour Declaration? Israel's national roots were sewn in 1917.

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.

 

[ogibillm]

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.

...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...

The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

i don't have any cute rhymes about ethnic cleansing.

Edited that to read 'genocide', didja?

If it was genocide, there would not be one single Muslim-Arab man, woman or child left alive, in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, or in Gaza.

As to your original accusation of 'ethnic cleansing'...

You mean like the ethnic cleansing of a half-million or so Jews from Muslim lands during the 1948-1975 timeframe?

Payback's a *****, when those doing the paying back have been thought of as impotent Dhimmis for so many centuries, eh?

Surprise.

just so long as you recognize it for what it was.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So if the government takes your stuff and gives it to someone else, you are going to be totally good with that?

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?

Big difference ogi. Daniyel would defend an Israeli against hordes of Palestinians if he could. The Palestinians can throw away their lives if they want to.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

When Gilad Shalit was freed by Hamas, it was because Israel released 50 Palestinians. Israel felt Shalit's life was worth the lives of 50 Palestinians. So there you have it. Israel places more value on its own citizens than on the lives of cowardly terrorists. Good!

The poetic justice in all of that is when those teenagers were killed in Gush Etzion, those 50 prisoners were re-arrested in Operation Brother's Keeper.

...i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment...

The moral of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

i don't have any cute rhymes about ethnic cleansing.

Edited that to read 'genocide', didja?

If it was genocide, there would not be one single Muslim-Arab man, woman or child left alive, in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, or in Gaza.

As to your original accusation of 'ethnic cleansing'...

You mean like the ethnic cleansing of a half-million or so Jews from Muslim lands during the 1948-1975 timeframe?

Payback's a *****, when those doing the paying back have been thought of as impotent Dhimmis for so many centuries, eh?

Surprise.

just so long as you recognize it for what it was.

We don't.

 

[JoeB131]

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

No, guy, it's really questionable how much Israel has 'existed" ever.

Other than the last 60 years, Israel only existed as a unified state for a few centuries between King David's Reign and the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests.

And even the Bible saw "Israel" and "Judah/Judea/The Jews" as separate entities.

It's also kind of questionable if they were even the ones in charge, as the Book of Kings did nothing but complain about how the Kings of Israel and Judea worshiped Gods other than Yahweh. (And Yahweh was kind of such a prick, who can blame them.)

 

[Daniyel]

Er, Joe, Israel has existed in one form or another for 3700 years. If anything, you are wanting to take Israel's stuff and give it to Palestine.

Yes, you are most assuredly "okay with that."

i think the palestinians displaced in 1948 would disagree with that assessment.

and you've yet to tell me how many innocents are acceptable collateral damage when pursuing a militant.

The same Palestinians that tried killed Jews? I'm okay with that..and no I don't give a damn if they all die instead of Israeli kid, sorry.

so you'd kill every palestinian, innocent and militant alike, to protect one israeli? did i get that right?

I never said I would kill, I said I wouldn't care if I will have to the moment they'll threat one Israeli - that excluding the innocent don't you think?

so you only believe that the militant should be killed, not the innocent. okay. how do you square that with israel's actions?

I'm deeply frustrated to be honest I would be glad if nobody will have to die in the first place, violence SHOULD be the last resort and even then there are some preconditions, but if bombing (innocents)civilians along with the militants will prevent more bloodshed of another Israeli civilian(INNOCENT) yes I'll be the one pressing the button first.
This is a gray zone and I can give you plenty of stories that raised the same dilemma over and over again..but here is the only way you can realize it - given the situation where you stand right in front of your worse enemy both armed with shotguns, your family standing right behind you, your enemy raised his weapon and aiming to you and your family direction..what would you do?