And to think that left continues to demand MORE government

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Unimaginable and inexcusable ineptitude by our federal government.
An audit conducted by Ernst & Young found that the agency’s accounting procedures are so flawed that there is no reliable way to track how it uses its $40 billion annual budget.
If a private organization was this inept, the left would take to the streets with violence. They would demand all kinds of “regulatory” reforms and legislation. And yet when it happens with tax payer dollars, all they do is shrug and insist that we need more government.

Major Pentagon agency can’t account for $800 million — but still may get a budget increase
 

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Unimaginable and inexcusable ineptitude by our federal government.
An audit conducted by Ernst & Young found that the agency’s accounting procedures are so flawed that there is no reliable way to track how it uses its $40 billion annual budget.
If a private organization was this inept, the left would take to the streets with violence. They would demand all kinds of “regulatory” reforms and legislation. And yet when it happens with tax payer dollars, all they do is shrug and insist that we need more government.

Major Pentagon agency can’t account for $800 million — but still may get a budget increase
Dear P@triot
After seeing the frustration with FEMA after Harvey,
where only people who called in the first week got help right away
and anyone after that was stuck in line waiting for weeks or months,
I thought surely this is proof that federal govt cannot handle
health care for the entire nation. The feds could not even manage
the demand from residents and businesses in key cities across 3-4 states.
How would you expect one centralized agency to handle the
entire populations of all 50 states.

Wake up! We all know that the relief process should have been localized.
And that's the key to health care as well.

The key to getting people on the same page, is
for people to pay for their own party platforms,
funded and run by their parties of choice directly.

For any social programs not expressly authorized in the Constituion,
these should be optional for taxpayers to choose to fund by checking
boxes on tax forms. So if you want to pay for military and veteran care,
checkone box. if you want to pay for health care for inmates, immigrants
and welfare recipients and believe in same sex benefits, check another box.

that way you get the govt you ask for.
and are required to pay for it!
 

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Unimaginable and inexcusable ineptitude by our federal government.
An audit conducted by Ernst & Young found that the agency’s accounting procedures are so flawed that there is no reliable way to track how it uses its $40 billion annual budget.
If a private organization was this inept, the left would take to the streets with violence. They would demand all kinds of “regulatory” reforms and legislation. And yet when it happens with tax payer dollars, all they do is shrug and insist that we need more government.

Major Pentagon agency can’t account for $800 million — but still may get a budget increase

So you agree that Trump's claim that the military needs so much more money is bullshit. Correct?
 
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Look at all of the progressives disingenuously avoiding the issue by pretending that this only happens in the Department of Defense (because that perfectly suits their “weaken the U.S.” agenda). You can’t have it both ways, lefties.
 

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Look at all of the progressives disingenuously avoiding the issue by pretending that this only happens in the Department of Defense (because that perfectly suits their “weaken the U.S.” agenda). You can’t have it both ways, lefties.
Yes big government sucks every time its tried. Sadly, many on the left and right want big government, even though it clearly fails the vast majority of Americans. It does however enrich and empower the ruling class and those connected to them.

Cut defense (really war making) by at least 50% and bring ALL our troops stationed in foriegn nations home, to protect the homeland.

I know...I am dreaming. My guess is we will be in WWIII very soon.
 

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Unimaginable and inexcusable ineptitude by our federal government.
An audit conducted by Ernst & Young found that the agency’s accounting procedures are so flawed that there is no reliable way to track how it uses its $40 billion annual budget.
If a private organization was this inept, the left would take to the streets with violence. They would demand all kinds of “regulatory” reforms and legislation. And yet when it happens with tax payer dollars, all they do is shrug and insist that we need more government.

Major Pentagon agency can’t account for $800 million — but still may get a budget increase

So you agree that Trump's claim that the military needs so much more money is bullshit. Correct?
Hmmm. Well if we stopped money going to every government program ran like this, you would be okay with it?
 

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Unimaginable and inexcusable ineptitude by our federal government.
An audit conducted by Ernst & Young found that the agency’s accounting procedures are so flawed that there is no reliable way to track how it uses its $40 billion annual budget.
If a private organization was this inept, the left would take to the streets with violence. They would demand all kinds of “regulatory” reforms and legislation. And yet when it happens with tax payer dollars, all they do is shrug and insist that we need more government.

Major Pentagon agency can’t account for $800 million — but still may get a budget increase

So you agree that Trump's claim that the military needs so much more money is bullshit. Correct?
Hmmm. Well if we stopped money going to every government program ran like this, you would be okay with it?
Would you?

How about we tell every agency found to have such shitty accounting practices that their funding is frozen at previous level until they can account for the “missing” funds.




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Cut defense (really war making) by at least 50% and bring ALL our troops stationed in foriegn nations home, to protect the homeland.
That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.

If China, Russia, Iran completes quantum computing we do, its over. We won’t even be able to launch our nuclear weapons because the launch sequences will be disabled. That’s how perilous the situation is. If anything, we should be increasing our defense budget by 50%. It’s unfortunate given the waste, fraud, and abuse in government, but it is absolutely a necessary evil. That’s why our founders made it a constitutional responsibility.
 
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How about we tell every agency found to have such shitty accounting practices that their funding is frozen at previous level until they can account for the “missing” funds.
And you know what would happen? They would “cook the books” so that the funds magically appeared. That’s the simpleminded reality that you progressives can’t grasp for some reason.
 

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That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.
Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police. We can still have the most dominant military if we force some accountability and make the military spend those funds wisely, on our defense, not on Germany's or South Korea's or Japan's or anyone else.
 

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Cut defense (really war making) by at least 50% and bring ALL our troops stationed in foriegn nations home, to protect the homeland.
That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.

If China, Russia, Iran completes quantum computing we do, its over. We won’t even be able to launch our nuclear weapons because the launch sequences will be disabled. That’s how perilous the situation is. If anything, we should be increasing our defense budget by 50%. It’s unfortunate given the waste, fraud, and abuse in government, but it is absolutely a necessary evil. That’s why our founders made it a constitutional responsibility.
It's not pure suicide, that in the name of Capitalist cheap labor illegal Mexicans are imported in mass, and jobs are exported in mass to semi-Communist China, all to bust the balls of the American worker, and create a general impotent American working class White society?
 

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That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.
Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police. We can still have the most dominant military if we force some accountability and make the military spend those funds wisely, on our defense, not on Germany's or South Korea's or Japan's or anyone else.
How dare we not pay 48% of the World's military budget.
 

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That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.
Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police. We can still have the most dominant military if we force some accountability and make the military spend those funds wisely, on our defense, not on Germany's or South Korea's or Japan's or anyone else.
How dare we not pay 48% of the World's military budget.
It costs hundreds of billions, soon to be trillions, to protect europe.
 
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Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police.
Well Clinton implemented that strategy and look how it turned out. By not playing “world police”, Al Qaeda was given a safe haven to finance, recruit, train, plan, and execute a horrific terrorist attack.

The simple reality is, if we’re not tracking down and disrupting evil around the world, we put ourselves at great risk. Not to mention, I would much rather have our federal government busy with foreign issues than turning their powers domestically. They currently intercept every single key stroke and phone call by all U.S. citizens. Can you imagine what they would be doing if they weren’t so focused on foreign matters as well?
 

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How about we tell every agency found to have such shitty accounting practices that their funding is frozen at previous level until they can account for the “missing” funds.
And you know what would happen? They would “cook the books” so that the funds magically appeared. That’s the simpleminded reality that you progressives can’t grasp for some reason.
So, you want to keep spending more and more money even when you know it is being wasted....and I am the progressive...fuck dude if you were not so stupid that would be funny


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That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.
Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police. We can still have the most dominant military if we force some accountability and make the military spend those funds wisely, on our defense, not on Germany's or South Korea's or Japan's or anyone else.
How dare we not pay 48% of the World's military budget.
It costs hundreds of billions, soon to be trillions, to protect europe.
Then we should stop doing so, it is not our job


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That is pure suicide. Libertarians simply can’t grasp that if Germany had beaten us to the nuclear bomb, we would all be enslaved and speaking German right now. It is a perpetual race to the next ultimate weapon, and the moment we let our guard down is the moment that the U.S. ceases to exist.
Nobody is calling for cuts in R&D. We're calling for cuts in playing World Police. We can still have the most dominant military if we force some accountability and make the military spend those funds wisely, on our defense, not on Germany's or South Korea's or Japan's or anyone else.
How dare we not pay 48% of the World's military budget.
It costs hundreds of billions, soon to be trillions, to protect europe.
Protect Europe from what, the Soviet monster created in Tehran, Yalta, and Potsdam Conferences with Democrat American (Anglo) Freemasons FDR, and Truman, or the (Anglo) Freemason Churchill out of the UK, who appeased, and increased Stalin's power, and influence?
 

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