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[alang1216]

Brown is happy.

How do you know?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I never heard of her. My oldest daughter home schooled her two boys. Her oldest is both smart and wealthy and just 27.

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Trump's move to shut down the Department of Education may have a larger impact on red States.

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'Why did we fail?': Conservative commentator and union rep ...
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Republicans allege that the union and others worked with the CDC to keep schools closed longer than necessary amid the coveted pandemic.

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AFT President Randi Weingarten talks coronavirus and school ...
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Randi Weingarten president of the American Federation of Teachers and dr. Joseph Farah biologist and an epidemiologist doctor.

 

[Robert W]

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Teachers' unions advocate for themselves and far less for students. They see less money for salaries for themselves is her true complaint.

 

[Anomalism]

I graciously accept your surrender.

That poster doesn't actually debate. They just use ad hominems and Cold War fear tactics to sludge the conversation to the point nobody cares anymore.

If you can formulate a contradicting opinion you have already won, because they have no ability to engage in actual debate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That poster doesn't actually debate. They just use ad hominems and Cold War fear tactics to sludge the conversation to the point nobody cares anymore.

If you can formulate a contradicting opinion you have already won, because they have no ability to engage in actual debate.

Really?

Let's see how difficult it is to prove you lying scum:

Did you claim that there is no “substance” in this OP?

A series of indisputable facts leading to an undeniable conclusion.


1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”






The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.



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So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

 

[Anomalism]

Really?

Let's see how difficult it is to prove you lying scum:

Did you claim that there is no “substance” in this OP?

A series of indisputable facts leading to an undeniable conclusion.


1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”






The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.



jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

I have addressed all of your fear tactics, but then you never deepen the debate by responding to what I actually said. You know that though. You are aware of your own dishonesty and refusal/inability to actually debate. That's the only part of your contributions that is actually interesting.

 

[Robert W]

I have addressed all of your fear tactics, but then you never deepen the debate by responding to what I actually said. You know that though. You are aware of your own dishonesty and refusal/inability to actually debate. That's the only part of your contributions that is actually interesting.

She has left your rectum bleeding.

 

[Anomalism]

She has left your rectum bleeding.

Maybe if the poster actually debated that would be possible. If you'd like I will demonstrate again in this thread that they don't debate and don't intend to.

It would require you to have some intellectual integrity though, and acknowledge how they lean on insults and non sequitur fear tactics rather than actually diving into debate.

This person is a sludge spammer and nothing else.

 

[alang1216]

I have addressed all of your fear tactics, but then you never deepen the debate by responding to what I actually said. You know that though. You are aware of your own dishonesty and refusal/inability to actually debate. That's the only part of your contributions that is actually interesting.

You are spot on, so do you think 'she' is a bot? It's pretty sophisticated, having a Google-level AI backend to generate almost appropriate cuts and pastes that could almost make you believe it is a real person. I have to give it its props and it has quite a reserve of infantile insults, just what a foreigner would interpret from US internet traffic. Russian, Chinese, or North Korean would you guess?

 

[Anomalism]

You are spot on, so do you think 'she' is a bot? It's pretty sophisticated, having a Google-level AI backend to generate almost appropriate cuts and pastes that could almost make you believe it is a real person. I have to give it its props and it has quite a reserve of infantile insults, just what a foreigner would interpret from US internet traffic. Russian, Chinese, or North Korean would you guess?

I think they spam information and viewpoints they didn't actually author. That's why they repeatedly paste the same posts, and why they can't actually engage with depth. I think they are actively aware of their dishonest non-engaging tactics and that they intentionally try to drain posters with sludge to create the illusion of victory.

There's nothing beneath the surface. The OP has no depth behind their rhetoric and fear mongering.

 

[Robert W]

Maybe if the poster actually debated that would be possible. If you'd like I will demonstrate again in this thread that they don't debate and don't intend to.

It would require you to have some intellectual integrity though, and acknowledge how they lean on insults and non sequitur fear tactics rather than actually diving into debate.

This person is a sludge spammer and nothing else.

Your major error is not talking of a topic relevant to debate, but you talk about other posters.

 

[MarcATL]

How do you feel about this?


. " For Asian Americans, a changing landscape on college admissions

.... a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant's race is worth. She points to the first column.

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

“Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,”....."
For Asian Americans a changing landscape on college admissions - LA Times

What about legacy admissions, how do you feel about those?

 

[Anomalism]

Your major error is not talking of a topic relevant to debate, but you talk about other posters.

Do you want me to show you this poster is incapable of debate? Call my bluff and tell me you'll be honest about it. I'll show you.

 

[Robert W]

I think they spam information and viewpoints they didn't actually author. That's why they repeatedly paste the same posts, and why they can't actually engage with depth. I think they are actively aware of their dishonest non-engaging tactics and that they intentionally try to drain posters with sludge to create the illusion of victory.

There's nothing beneath the surface. The OP has no depth behind their rhetoric and fear mongering.

You repeated your error. Try engaging her discussion and stopping discussing her as a poster.

 

[Robert W]

Do you want me to show you this poster is incapable of debate? Call my bluff and tell me you'll be honest about it. I'll show you.

YES!

 

[Anomalism]

YES!

You won't disappear and make excuses when they don't actually engage? That's your word? This same thing happened in another thread, and the poster disappeared without admitting what had happened.

 

[Anomalism]

Really?

Let's see how difficult it is to prove you lying scum:

Did you claim that there is no “substance” in this OP?

A series of indisputable facts leading to an undeniable conclusion.


1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”






The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.



jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

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Robert W

Let's see what happens. You will notice, if you're honest, that the poster won't even attempt to debate further. They will name call and use Cold War propaganda, or maybe even ignore my post entirely, but they will never actually debate the content of my posts.

That is because they can't. Their views and rhetoric are empty, surface level noise. There is no depth.

 

[Robert W]

You won't disappear and make excuses when they don't actually engage? That's your word? This same thing happened in another thread, and the poster disappeared without admitting what had happened.

Discuss her points!!

 

[Anomalism]

Discuss her points!!

Look above and watch. The poster won't respond and actually debate. I really don't expect you to be honest about it either, but hey, let's see. Maybe I'm wrong about you.

 

[Robert W]

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

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Robert W

Let's see what happens. You will notice, if you're honest, that the poster won't even attempt to debate further. They will name call and use Cold War propaganda, or maybe even ignore my post entirely, but they will never actually debate the content of my posts.

That is because they can't. Their views and rhetoric are empty, surface level noise. There is no depth.

Again, you fall back to discussing her, not even waiting for her replies, you fall back to discussing her.