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Yes, that sure would be nice. But they don't have the balls.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Where do you see peaceful protests?
I see building burning, children being shot & killed by BLM. A black man carrying a Trump sign was just murdered in broad daylight. A chunk of seattle gets taken over by force & democrat filth allow it to continue for 3 weeks.
Now it's supposedly "right wingers" who are causing all of it?
We had peaceful protests. No riots.
If you read what I wrote, you would see the causes are multiple but no one said “right wingers" who are causing all of it, but they are certainly part of the volatile mix.
I don’t want to be that negative....But it is hardI've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I don't believe that any more. It's become clear to me that the ends of the spectrum are hopeless and worthless, at least for now, and that they need to be marginalized from any constructive conversation. You'll have no more success communicating with them than you would with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus.
The contest now is between the crazed nutters on both ends, versus the rest of us. Obviously they're currently winning.
Well, in a weird way, it could be a positive. I don't think it will take a huge number to turn the tide. It's about starting small, with the right voices, and then creating a momentum.I don’t want to be that negative....But it is hardI've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I don't believe that any more. It's become clear to me that the ends of the spectrum are hopeless and worthless, at least for now, and that they need to be marginalized from any constructive conversation. You'll have no more success communicating with them than you would with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus.
The contest now is between the crazed nutters on both ends, versus the rest of us. Obviously they're currently winning.
The proper response is called deescalation. Donald Trump could have been the president that brought the country closer together because he was not committed to the ideology of either party. He spent most of his life cutting deals which he could have done as president. Unfortunately bringing people together had about zero priority in his agenda. Stirring up division and hatred in his campaign worked so well for him, he continued it throughout his presidency.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
the left is not respecting the peaceful transfer of power after the election.
that is the primary ingredient for a "street war". the breakdown of democracy.
and if trump is ousted, even partially because of your sides's refusal to play by the rules,
then it would not make sense for us to respect the next transfer of power.
after all, if only one side plays by the rules, it is time to end the game.
I think Biden will do a much better job of developing bipartisan legislation and keeping rhetoric contained. I can't imagine "Sleepy Joe" spending half the night baiting his critics on Twitter triggering heated arguments. It's not his style and that will do more to heal the country than anything else. We need a president that just does his job and leaves the rhetoric and speculation to others.
Trump simply has to state his opinion, whether it's an informed opinion or just speculation, with no regard for the damage it does. Words matter and words from a president matter a lot because ever statement from a president will be analyzed by friend and foe trying to gleam some understanding of what he is really thinking and whether his statements alter policy.
A presidents statements will be misquoted and taken out of context to serve the purpose of others. This is why all modern presidents till Trump considered their statements carefully and even discuss them with staff to make sure they had the right impact and were in line with his policies because a president's words create his policy and his policy guides all parts of executive branch. If the a president's statements are continually changing policy or putting doubt on priority, then various agencies will work at cross purposes which is exactly what is has happened.
I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Yeah, in a way. In a country with hundreds of millions of guns in private hands, bad things are going to happen. Or rather, they are happening.
There are a few things that anger me about that article and the wider debate on that issue.
First, why attribute everything untoward to the protests? From the lootings to government thugs beating up or snatching away folks, there is always a light directed at "protests", as if there were more than the most tenuous connection.
Second, there were guns drawn because some hothead lost his calm. So? The event in Louisville was due to a woman passing out in the heat during pre-march security checks, dropping the gun and accidentally discharging. Clearly, such should not happen, but there was no danger of sparking a "street war", as right-wing hyperventilation would suggest.
Third, a "street war" is an animal entirely different from an accidental discharge and even a hothead pulling a gun. That would take sustained planning and coordination by numerous would-be warriors. Certainly, there will be dicey situations, and, as you do, I'd hope protesters won't carry guns during protests.
Finally, all that talk about "street war" serves is to discourage participation in peaceful protests - not to mention equaling protests to riots, denigrating protesters willy-nilly as "brown shirts" and "thugs". If that is successful, and the protests subside before they have any significant achievements, the racist right has pulled off an enormous victory, as systemic racism will, again, remain unaddressed. There will be no "street war" at protests, and most assuredly not because of protests. In that vein, careful consideration should be devoted to analyzing what "street war" or "hijacking protests" actually mean. The danger of an explosion of violence arises, as far as I can see, rather due to Trump losing the election and White supremacist militias exacting their revenge, as usual targeting the most vulnerable they can possibly find, elderly, unarmed black church goers or some such group.
Yes, that sure would be nice. But they don't have the balls.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
Maybe your end could be the first to be the grownup in the room.
Okay, just kidding. You don't have the balls either.
I've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I don't believe that any more. It's become clear to me that the ends of the spectrum are hopeless and worthless, at least for now, and that they need to be marginalized from any constructive conversation. You'll have no more success communicating with them than you would with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus.
The contest now is between the crazed nutters on both ends, versus the rest of us. Obviously they're currently winning.
Well, in a weird way, it could be a positive. I don't think it will take a huge number to turn the tide. It's about starting small, with the right voices, and then creating a momentum.I don’t want to be that negative....But it is hardI've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I don't believe that any more. It's become clear to me that the ends of the spectrum are hopeless and worthless, at least for now, and that they need to be marginalized from any constructive conversation. You'll have no more success communicating with them than you would with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus.
The contest now is between the crazed nutters on both ends, versus the rest of us. Obviously they're currently winning.
I still believe that a majority of this country wants to see things really improve, instead of being stuck on "beating" the other "side".
Cool heads will never be heard when they are met with nothing but hot heads, which then makes said cool heads into hot heads.And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
They're not "destroying cities". That's just the shallow, simplistic hyperbole to which you are addicted.Well, in a weird way, it could be a positive. I don't think it will take a huge number to turn the tide. It's about starting small, with the right voices, and then creating a momentum.I don’t want to be that negative....But it is hardI've changed my mind on something pretty important (to me) over the last couple of years. I always thought that anyone could grow up and choose to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. That we all had that capacity in us.And it would great if tbe Republicans would their white supremacist fascists to knock it off too.Yeah, all the ingredients are there.I think all the predictors are there: summer heat, months of Covid restrictions, huge unemployment, the new release of horrible economic news....lots of division and anger, a very volatile situation. Then you add in various armed groups of extremists and agitators who have hijacking these protests and it isn’t good. Peaceful protests don’t need guns.
Analysts Say Armed Groups At Protests Raise Specter Of A 'Street War'
Street clashes have erupted, involving a mix of protesters, authorities, extremists and agitators. With armed factions squaring off, terrorism analysts fear the worse is still to come.www.npr.org
At a congressional hearing this month, extremism researcher J.J. MacNab delivered a warning: "There is a potential street war brewing."
MacNab cited the dangerous mix of armed factions squaring off at protests around the United States. Of all the current flashpoints for violence — the pandemic, the election, the economy — she called it the risk that worries her most.
"I am concerned that there will be a shootout at one or more of the Black Lives Matter protests," MacNab told House members. "There are too many guns at these events, held by too many groups with conflicting goals."
I think we are coming into very dangerous waters over the next couple of months," said Seth Jones of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "This has the potential for larger numbers and amounts of street violence between groups and networks on opposing sides. This is serious. I haven't seen this kind of domestic terrorism threat, really, in my lifetime."
Analysts say far-right and anti-government agitators are either attacking protesters or trying to glom onto their cause to push their own agendas. Other extremists see a chance to trigger a violent revolution; still others, a race war. Meanwhile, guns are increasingly visible on the protesters' side too. Some armed anti-fascist groups and Black gun clubs have joined the fray as self-proclaimed community defense forces.
And as bad as any of them is the fact that there appear to be no cooler heads trying to be heard.
Like maybe democrats telling their brownshirts to stop?
I don’t these groups care about political parties.
I don't believe that any more. It's become clear to me that the ends of the spectrum are hopeless and worthless, at least for now, and that they need to be marginalized from any constructive conversation. You'll have no more success communicating with them than you would with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus.
The contest now is between the crazed nutters on both ends, versus the rest of us. Obviously they're currently winning.
I still believe that a majority of this country wants to see things really improve, instead of being stuck on "beating" the other "side".
How does that work when one side is destroying cities?
If you can't admit that business and government facilities have been destroyed, and that complete sections of certain cities have been taken over, by the very people involved in these protests, this conversation cannot happen.They're not "destroying cities". That's just the shallow, simplistic hyperbole to which you are addicted.