Analysis of the Walmart Shooter Manifesto

[Wry Catcher]

The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate," Trump said today.

“This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” says an anti-immigrant online manifesto by the accused gunman.

"Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!" Trump once tweeted.

The shooter traveled over 600 miles to get to the largest city on the Texas/Mexico border to kill as many Mexicans as he could. He killed 21 people and injured 27.

Our country has been invaded. Millions of illegal aliens living here siphoning off our public monies intended for our own citizens is proof of that. Invasions aren't always accomplished by using tanks and armies to conquer a nation.
Marcus Tullius Cicero warned over two thousand years ago how a great nation (like Rome) can fall due to treason and moral rot from within.
To ignore what this rot is would be a cowardly and dishonest act of someone who doesn't care what happens to this nation.Trump is not that sort of person.

And don't forget only part of the manifesto dealt with the effects of pernicious illegal immigration. The other part of it was a call to reduce the human population of the planet in order to save it. It literally called for mass death of much of the population to benefit the earth.
You forgot to mention that.

It was a kook's call for eco justice and people like you, who only cite the parts of the killer's manifesto you think will benefit you politically, are sickening pukes who deserve zero respect or attention. Why don't you take one for the planet yourself?

We are witnessing the fall of a once great nation for the reasons given by Cicero.

It was Adam Smith who naively believed that patriotism would be enough to control the capitalist's urges to sell out his country of origin for profits.

It was a wiser man, Karl Marx, who used the dialectic method to examine the inner workings of the capitalist system and knew that patriotism was not enough to discourage the capitalist from selling out his country. He knew that capitalism would devour the earth in search of profits and thus create mass migrations. Socialism, he believed, would be a global event, not isolated to the poorest countries. It would take root in the richest countries once its populations gained consciousness of their reality. Marx was not a dogmatist. He was a critic. His whole effort was to impart consciousness to the working population.

We live in the midst of the information age. This should be a benefit to us. Instead it is a hindrance. It is being used as a weapon in order to prevent the population from gaining consciousness of the reality. It is being used to turn us against each other.

Marx was an idiot that wrote gibberish. Nobody reads his books. You can quote one or two sentences but nobody reads his blithering n ok nsense.

Socialism created this shooter. The rhetoric of today's socialism is throughout this person's manifesto.

Marx, over a 100 million dead and still counting.

Yes, this shooter hated capitalism. He was a socialist, Marxism lives.

"Marx was an idiot that wrote gibberish. Nobody reads his books". Are you nuts?

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/marx-publishes-manifesto

Communist Manifesto sales Penguin bargain little black classics

Or maybe you are a very poor liar.

 

[elektra]

Examination of the manifesto may be premature. There are indications that it's not his.

Yes, you could be right. But at this point, all comments are premature. I thought I would take a chance and open a broad discussion on what is being reported and I thought the manifesto to be of importance. It is actually quite broad and critical of both political parties. If it was posted by the shooter I see that he was pretty angry at the political rhetoric that has been mainstream for many years.

ROTFLMFAO! Open a broad discussion?? Nope..just trying some inane spin..nothing more. Good luck with that..just in case you've missed it..here's what's really going on:

Shootings Renew Debate Over How to Combat Domestic Terrorism

Now this..is a broad discussion.

What?

 

[elektra]

This ^^^ is the the stupidest question of the day. If you don't know, you must live in a cave.

Nice, you can not quote Trump. I asked to show, you had not heard Trump say the things you believe he said

Turn on the MSM on TV, Trump in all his glory has been recorded and they are replaying all of his many hate and fear and racist mongering.

Quote trump, word for word

Here’s a breakdown of Trump’s history, taken largely from Dara Lind’s list for Vox and an op-ed by Nicholas Kristof in the New York Times:

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019

That is a history of racism, ha, ha, ha, ha.

 

[rightwinger]

Is it not the republican message that illegal immigrants are here to steal our jobs and destroy our culture?

Destroy our culture? Nope, that is not our message, not at all. But the message that they are here to steal our jobs is not new and most likely began with Democrat Bill Clinton.


Clinton, 1995, immigration, SOTU | C-SPAN.org

Bill Clinton All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.

That is what makes me say hum about this manifesto that critical of both political parties

You would suspect that it would be only one and a misdirection play

Driving 6 or 7 hours to the border and shooting up a walmart hoping to get illegals when he would get both illegals and legal residents.

The FBI has its work cut out because he probably had accomplices

It is reported that he posted on 8 chan which is a far right website and they quickly removed it.

I suspect, growing up and being educated under Common Core, this is what we get. There is nothing but gloom and doom taught these days. From we are destroying the environment to the USA is the bad guy. There is no doubt that the Democrats have turned their backs on their traditional base, as have the Republicans.

The anti-republican rhetoric is so hate filled that it does not resemble the truth about republicans in the least.

Democrats are so desperate they are actively recruiting people that are not US citizens. Literally encouraging them to break the law to come here.

Who taught this young man such a bleak future. He is fresh out of school. What job did he get after 8 years of Obama? What did have to look forward to?

There is plenty of political, revisionist, propaganda to blame for the despair of this young man.

One side in politics does need to lose, for good. Reading his manifesto, it is plain who taught this man to hate. It is the Democrat message.

Is it not the republican message that illegal immigrants are here to steal our jobs and destroy our culture?

Are they not

I got one saying yes and one trying to deflect, which is a sure sign he knows better.

Trump's message has not been the message of the Republican party. Or at least not the actions of Republicans.

As far as politicians go, which way is the wind blowing?

Republicans have not been as open in their racism as Trump

 

[elektra]

"Marx was an idiot that wrote gibberish. Nobody reads his books". Are you nuts?

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/marx-publishes-manifesto

Communist Manifesto sales Penguin bargain little black classics

Or maybe you are a very poor liar.

Yes, Marx was an idiot. I did say nobody reads the gibberish "Marx" wrote.

I see your response is to show something that Engels wrote? That make you the poor liar as well as a nut that can not comprehend what you read.

And yes, I do know Engels and Marx wrote a tiny little book on communism.

So, if you were really educated you would of cited something MARX wrote! Das Kapital?

Nobody reads the gibberish Marx wrote. I do own his gibberish, so I can refer to quotes in context.

 

[Wry Catcher]

"Marx was an idiot that wrote gibberish. Nobody reads his books". Are you nuts?

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/marx-publishes-manifesto

Communist Manifesto sales Penguin bargain little black classics

Or maybe you are a very poor liar.

Yes, Marx was an idiot. I did say nobody reads the gibberish "Marx" wrote.

I see your response is to show something that Engels wrote? That make you the poor liar as well as a nut that can not comprehend what you read.

And yes, I do know Engels and Marx wrote a tiny little book on communism.

So, if you were really educated you would of cited something MARX wrote! Das Kapital?

Nobody reads the gibberish Marx wrote. I do own his gibberish, so I can refer to quotes in context.

View attachment 273136

Thanks for sharing, now turn on Sesame Street and stalk Big Bird.

 

[Tehon]

If the capitalists own both parties, why have they not simply changed the work Visa laws to allow immigrants in to do the work?

Why would the capitalists want that when they can have their cake and eat it to?

The labor would cost more if everything was on the books and legal.

 

[elektra]

Thanks for sharing, now turn on Sesame Street and stalk Big Bird.

My, you have thin skin. You posted in my OP in reply to my comments and I am stalking? Or are you just being oh so clever cause that really hurts my feelings.

You are welcome, maybe you can take a pic of your copy of Das Kapital and post it so everyone can see you have put as much effort into understanding Marx as I have.

Or are you just a talking point headline intellect?

 

[elektra]

If the capitalists own both parties, why have they not simply changed the work Visa laws to allow immigrants in to do the work?

Why would the capitalists want that when they can have their cake and eat it to?

The labor would cost more if everything was on the books and legal.

If the capitalists had that kind of control, there would be no minimum wage for migrant workers. No taxes paid, nothing. But the Capitalist does not have that kind of control.

It is the Democrats, the socialists, that need cheap labor, much cheaper than what a capitalist requires. Democrats and socialists, they need free labor, slave labor. Complete control over labor. That is proven historically and by the recent actions of the Democrats.

It is the socialists that allow illegal immigration. Yes, capitalists, or industrial farmers, do take advantage, as do other jobs. But they are taking advantage of a situation the Democrats have created.

 

[elektra]

Republicans have not been as open in their racism as Trump

We have not been as open in our racism as Democrats.

As recently as 2010 the Democrats, "president pro tempore", in the senate was Ku Klux Klan Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd (D., W.Va.).

Democrats were very open about their own racism.

Did you vote for Hillary?

 

[Kilroy2]

Republicans have not been as open in their racism as Trump

We have not been as open in our racism as Democrats.

As recently as 2010 the Democrats, "president pro tempore", in the senate was Ku Klux Klan Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd (D., W.Va.).

Democrats were very open about their own racism. View attachment 273139
Did you vote for Hillary?

Yeah he was in the Klan back in 1940 to 1950 and that is when he was elected as head of the klan that he help create as a young man before he decided to become a polititian. You used a photoshop photo and put it out as real. You even thru in 2010

Still he renounced it and said it was a mistake on his part. He said he regretted it

Yes he was a southern democrat before the majority of southern democrats overwhelmingly turned republican when the civil right bill was being put together and they were not for it.

Since he stayed democrat he had a change of heart

Would I vote for him probably not but I do not live in that state that he was a senator for

He filibustered the civil rights bill and supported the Vietnam
war

as time past he changed and he supported OB and criticized the Iraq war

In 1997 he admitted that his involvement in the Klan was his biggest mistake

So you know what he man up and admitted his mistake

let see Trump man up and admit his mistakes but the difference between the two

Byrd was a young guy and as he got older he changed

Trump is an old guy and he probably not going to change
and he will most likely never man up and admit his mistakes

but hey who knows


At some point in his life he had a change of heart

Now if Trump renounces raciest tendencies then that is progr

 

[elektra]

let see Trump man up and admit his mistakes but the difference between the two

Byrd was a young guy and as he got older he changed

Trump is an old guy and he probably not going to change
and he will most likely never man up and admit his mistakes

Yep, Democrat Senator Byrd was not only a simple member of the KKK. He was the GRAND DRAGON LEADER. You call that a mistake when he was young? Do you even know who the KKK was? They were literally terrorist. They burned crosses and hung black men. They made sure blacks did not vote. They made sure blacks used different bathrooms.

A simple mistake? I am sorry? No my friend, the man should of suffered the terror he led.

If you think Trump is in the same company of Democrat Senator Byrd, you are blind.

You can not say definitively that you would not vote for the leader of the Klan.

Byrd was the leader! What kind of person leads those who did kill men?

 

[Kilroy2]

Well all I am saying he changed yeah KKK is bad but he regretted it and he was a young man when he went with the flow. He repented and as a good christian I am sure you can understand repenting.

He said that it was a mistake and he admitted his mistakes



Trump on the other hand recently

called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists
proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US
suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage
referring to the race and heritage of the 4 members of congress
white supremacist are all fine people
joking about the trail of tears

back in the 1970s, the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination in renting to blacks
the Nixon administration sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating

the “Central Park Five” Trump immediately took charge in the case, running ads demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’(blacks and hispanic) convictions were later vacated and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

his history is clearly searchable

The difference is he never apologized or admitted that he was wrong

 

[rjs330]

Republicans have not been as open in their racism as Trump

We have not been as open in our racism as Democrats.

As recently as 2010 the Democrats, "president pro tempore", in the senate was Ku Klux Klan Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd (D., W.Va.).

Democrats were very open about their own racism. View attachment 273139
Did you vote for Hillary?

Yeah he was in the Klan back in 1940 to 1950 and that is when he was elected as head of the klan that he help create as a young man before he decided to become a polititian. You used a photoshop photo and put it out as real. You even thru in 2010

Still he renounced it and said it was a mistake on his part. He said he regretted it

Yes he was a southern democrat before the majority of southern democrats overwhelmingly turned republican when the civil right bill was being put together and they were not for it.

Since he stayed democrat he had a change of heart

Would I vote for him probably not but I do not live in that state that he was a senator for

He filibustered the civil rights bill and supported the Vietnam
war

as time past he changed and he supported OB and criticized the Iraq war

In 1997 he admitted that his involvement in the Klan was his biggest mistake

So you know what he man up and admitted his mistake

let see Trump man up and admit his mistakes but the difference between the two

Byrd was a young guy and as he got older he changed

Trump is an old guy and he probably not going to change
and he will most likely never man up and admit his mistakes

but hey who knows


At some point in his life he had a change of heart

Now if Trump renounces raciest tendencies then that is progr

Trump has denounced racism and racist groups already a number of times. Yet it's not good enough for you. What exactly do you want him to say?

 

[rjs330]

Well all I am saying he changed yeah KKK is bad but he regretted it and he was a young man when he went with the flow. He repented and as a good christian I am sure you can understand repenting.

He said that it was a mistake and he admitted his mistakes



Trump on the other hand recently

called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists
proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US
suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage
referring to the race and heritage of the 4 members of congress
white supremacist are all fine people
joking about the trail of tears

back in the 1970s, the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination in renting to blacks
the Nixon administration sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating

the “Central Park Five” Trump immediately took charge in the case, running ads demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’(blacks and hispanic) convictions were later vacated and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

his history is clearly searchable

The difference is he never apologized or admitted that he was wrong

You listen to too much CNN and read too muxh liberal media. He never said all Mexicans illegals are rapists and criminals. He only proposed a ban from certain places and the ban was only until good vetting could be established. He didn't ban ALL Muslims. He never mentioned the race of the fabulous 4.

Trump NEVER was shown to discriminate on race. NEVER. He may have not wanted to rent to welfare recipients. Which is based upon income and lifestyle and not on race. The fact that the welfare recipients were black is irrelevant.

 

[Marion Morrison]

There will be much to be said about the latest shooting by a White Man perpetrated against those he perceived to be illegal aliens (a term not being used?).

I thought it wise to find and read the manifesto. To educate myself about the content, the ideas, the inspiration for this man's actions.

The following quote is from the first paragraph of the manifesto, hence I believe the most significant.

Wayback Machine

Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement.

As we see, The Great Replacement inspired this man. A book written by a French Socialist?
The Great Replacement - Wikipedia

The theory was the basis of Renaud Camus's 2011 book The Great Replacement

Renaud Camus? The Great Replacement? There is much searching to find the truth. Sort of, I think the truth is found very quickly.

Renaud Camus - Wikipedia

Camus has been during the 1970-80s a member of the Socialist Party

Camus is openly gay and in favour of same-sex marriage

Well, that is a start, we can see that this young man was influenced greatly, by a openly gay french socialist.

Bah, it's TL;DR

Painful reading screed. I read 2 alleged paragraphs and then the relevant part where the media will wrongly blame Trump.

WALMART SHOOTER MANIFESTO

 

[Marion Morrison]

Republicans have not been as open in their racism as Trump

We have not been as open in our racism as Democrats.

As recently as 2010 the Democrats, "president pro tempore", in the senate was Ku Klux Klan Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd (D., W.Va.).

Democrats were very open about their own racism. View attachment 273139
Did you vote for Hillary?

Yeah he was in the Klan back in 1940 to 1950 and that is when he was elected as head of the klan that he help create as a young man before he decided to become a polititian. You used a photoshop photo and put it out as real. You even thru in 2010

Still he renounced it and said it was a mistake on his part. He said he regretted it

Yes he was a southern democrat before the majority of southern democrats overwhelmingly turned republican when the civil right bill was being put together and they were not for it.

Since he stayed democrat he had a change of heart

Would I vote for him probably not but I do not live in that state that he was a senator for

He filibustered the civil rights bill and supported the Vietnam
war

as time past he changed and he supported OB and criticized the Iraq war

In 1997 he admitted that his involvement in the Klan was his biggest mistake

So you know what he man up and admitted his mistake

let see Trump man up and admit his mistakes but the difference between the two

Byrd was a young guy and as he got older he changed

Trump is an old guy and he probably not going to change
and he will most likely never man up and admit his mistakes

but hey who knows


At some point in his life he had a change of heart

Now if Trump renounces raciest tendencies then that is progr

Trump has denounced racism and racist groups already a number of times. Yet it's not good enough for you. What exactly do you want him to say?

That he abdicates the presidency, anything less will not do.

 

[elektra]

Well all I am saying he changed yeah KKK is bad but he regretted it and he was a young man when he went with the flow. He repented and as a good christian I am sure you can understand repenting.......

Trump:
The difference is he never apologized or admitted that he was wrong

I will get to the rest of your post, but first.

You are off base. No man should ever be in the Senate who was in charge of the people who hung black men!

KKK is murderers! That is beyond bad. He repented from murdering his fellow man.

And me as a good Christian? I should understand? Man's sin is between himself and God. As a goo Christian I am to follow the law of man, as stated in the Bible.

Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, should of been tried for the crimes of the KKK.

They murdered, black men, black women and black children.

That piece of shit should of been hung.

As a good Christian, I would of shot him, dead on site, as God would of wanted, for the greater good of the lord, so that an 8 year old black boy could live.

I am disgusted that you would think differently of the people who are murderers.

 

[Kilroy2]

A good Christians should forgive

He has been judged and there is nothing u or I can do

You saying that you would shot him dead on site is troublesome

Sounds like an eye for an eye

I am just saying that he asked for forgiveness from his fellow man and ultimately since he died he ask to ask for forgiveness again

It is beyond mine or your pay grade now

let it go, Do not get caught in the drama as the consequences are eternal

 

[Kilroy2]

[/QUOTE]
You listen to too much CNN and read too muxh liberal media. He never said all Mexicans illegals are rapists and criminals. He only proposed a ban from certain places and the ban was only until good vetting could be established. He didn't ban ALL Muslims. He never mentioned the race of the fabulous 4.

Trump NEVER was shown to discriminate on race. NEVER. He may have not wanted to rent to welfare recipients. Which is based upon income and lifestyle and not on race. The fact that the welfare recipients were black is irrelevant. [/QUOTE]

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. (The opposite is they are sending their worst because they are not sending their best) They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, (Now he is defining what they are sending) and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. (weak assumption that they are good people but really contradicts the first highlight statement so are they good people or Mexico sends only the worst) But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Definitely needs a better speech writer

Muslim ban

Dec. 7, 2015: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."

March 9, 2016: "I think Islam hates us ... We can’t allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United States and of people that are not Muslim.”

he eventually water it down to specific countries and eventually the all Muslim ban statement made was reduced to specific countries