An interesting article on sea levels rising..

[Crick]

I think you'll find I've been talking net heat transfer since the very beginning Ian. If I place two cubes of ice into identical environments, one of mass M and total surface area X, the next of mass 2M and total surface area 1.67X, which will finish melting first?

The mass increased by a larger factor than the surface area.

 

[IanC]

It's a stupid poorly defined experiment. Obviously if we are looking to examine the radiative effects then the two ice cubes must have some minimal separation to remove conduction. I don't think jc was thinking about comparing small ice cubes to larger ones, where of course the ratio of surface area to volume is important.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Check out this part of the story...

Seas aren’t just rising, scientists say — it’s worse than that. They’re speeding up.



The problem, or even mystery, is that scientists haven’t seen an unambiguous acceleration of sea level rise in a data record that’s considered the best for observing the problem — the one that began with the TOPEX/Poseidon satellite, which launched in late 1992 and carried an instrument, called a radar altimeter, that gives a very precise measurement of sea level around the globe. (It has since been succeeded by other satellites providing similar measurements.)

This record actually shows a decrease in the rate of sea level rise from the first decade measured by satellites (1993 to 2002) to the second one (2003 to 2012). “We’ve been looking at the altimeter records and scratching our heads, and saying, ‘why aren’t we seeing an acceleration in the satellite record?’ We should be,” said John Fasullo, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado.

In a new study in the open-access journal Scientific Reports, however, Fasullo and two colleagues say they have now resolved this problem. It turns out, they say, that sea level rise was artificially masked in the satellite record by the fact that one year before the satellite launched, the Earth experienced a major cooling pulse.

The amusing fact is that the most rapid rise in the sea level was during the 1940's.

Man has no control of the climate, and scant understanding of the mechanism. The Shamans claiming that sacrifice to them will change anything are nothing but crooks.

 

[Crick]

considering that the tropospheric hot spot... has not materialized, you have a serious predictive failure of the greenhouse hypothesis itself.

No we don't. We have either your ignorance or your lies. The greenhouse effect does not predict a tropospheric hotspot. It does predict cooling of the lower stratosphere, an effect produced by no other atmospheric process. Cooling of the lower stratosphere has been seen worldwide.

Got it?

Of course it does crick...here...from your high priests...the IPCC...

9.2.2 Spatial and Temporal Patterns of the Response to Different Forcings and their Uncertainties - AR4 WGI Chapter 9: Understanding and Attributing Climate Change

Greenhouse gas forcing is expected to produce warming in the troposphere, cooling in the stratosphere, and, for transient simulations, somewhat more warming near the surface in the NH due to its larger land fraction, which has a shorter surface response time to the warming than do ocean regions (Figure 9.1c).

And thus

The average temperature of the lower troposphere has increased between 0.13 and 0.22 °C (0.23 and 0.40 °F) per decade since 1979, according to satellite temperature measurements. Climate proxies show the temperature to have been relatively stable over the one or two thousand years before 1850, with regionally varying fluctuations such as the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.[Jansen et al., [URL='http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch6.html']Ch. 6, Palaeoclimate, Section 6.6.1.1: What Do Reconstructions Based on Palaeoclimatic Proxies Show?, pp. 466–478, in IPCC AR4 WG1 2007.][/URL]

Tropospheric hotspots are created by changes in the lapse rate which can be caused by ANY form of warming which increases evaporation at the surface and thus deceases the lapse rate. They are neither unique nor indicative of greenhouse warming specifically. The best indicator of the greenhouse effect in action is cooling of the lower stratosphere - as you've been informed on numerous occasions and continue to pretend you didn't hear.

Greenhouse gases have also led to the cooling of the atmosphere at levels higher than the stratosphere. Over the past 30 years, the Earth's surface temperature has increased 0.2-0.4 °C, while the temperature in the mesosphere, about 50-80 km above ground, has cooled 5-10 °C (Beig et al., 2006). There is no appreciable cooling due to ozone destruction at these altitudes, so nearly all of this dramatic cooling is due to the addition of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. Even greater cooling of 17 °C per decade has been observed high in the ionosphere, at 350 km altitude. This has affected the orbits of orbiting satellites, due to decreased drag, since the upper atmosphere has shrunk and moved closer to the surface (Lastovicka et al., 2006). The density of the air has declined 2-3% per decade the past 30 years at 350 km altitude. So, in a sense, the sky IS falling!

Global Warming Causes Stratospheric Cooling | Weather Underground

 

[Crick]

The amusing fact is that the most rapid rise in the sea level was during the 1940's.

Let's see data that shows the most rapid rise in the 1940s.

 

[LaDexter]

crick claims the oceans are rising.

Let's review that suggestion...

1. 90% of Earth ice on Antarctica is adding at least 80 billion tons of ice every year since Algore started lying about CO2 - http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

2. other Earth icy spots like the Himalayas and Mongolia have growing ice - Google

(seems like we are rapidly running out of potential sources of "melt" to cause a rise in ocean levels....)

3. Greenland methodically keeps thickening every year as it adds its annual ice core layer... Study Reveals The Inconvenient Truth About Greenland’s Ice Sheet — It’s Thickening!



Do the warmers have any evidence of any land sinking?

A: they have THREE island chains, all on the lip of the Pacific Ring of Fire....



Conclusion - there is no net ice melt ongoing on Earth, which makes a claim of ocean rise total bullshit, and of course the FRAUD uses more FRAUD to con the public that islands are sinking, which they are... because the tectonic plate on which they are attached is being pushed under the adjacent plate.

There is no better example as to why everyone should consider Global Warming a total FRAUD than the ocean rise claim, which is absolute BULLSHIT.

 

[Uncensored2008]

crick claims the oceans are rising.

Let's review that suggestion...

1. 90% of Earth ice on Antarctica is adding at least 80 billion tons of ice every year since Algore started lying about CO2 - http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

2. other Earth icy spots like the Himalayas and Mongolia have growing ice - Google

(seems like we are rapidly running out of potential sources of "melt" to cause a rise in ocean levels....)

3. Greenland methodically keeps thickening every year as it adds its annual ice core layer... Study Reveals The Inconvenient Truth About Greenland’s Ice Sheet — It’s Thickening!



Do the warmers have any evidence of any land sinking?

A: they have THREE island chains, all on the lip of the Pacific Ring of Fire....



Conclusion - there is no net ice melt ongoing on Earth, which makes a claim of ocean rise total bullshit, and of course the FRAUD uses more FRAUD to con the public that islands are sinking, which they are... because the tectonic plate on which they are attached is being pushed under the adjacent plate.

There is no better example as to why everyone should consider Global Warming a total FRAUD than the ocean rise claim, which is absolute BULLSHIT.

Crick is full of fabricated graphs and contrived data.

I rarely pay attention to him.

 

[Crick]

Uncensored, YOU claimed that the most rapid sea level rise took place in the 1940s. Let's see your data.