An Homage To The Democrat Party

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

 

[buckeye45_73]

Or….Remedial Education: Socialism 101

CliffsNotes version: Socialism is theft.

Now, the details.



1.There is this definition of socialism:
“ any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state Definition of SOCIALISM




2. Recognizing how odious this system would be for any who favor liberty, ersatz socialists like to put ‘democratic’ in front of the word, as though that makes any difference. As the saying goes, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International



“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table
Putting the Cards on the Table




3. The last presidential election was interesting in that the most powerful political party ran as their two top candidates, a socialist and a career criminal.

At this time they've decided to go with socialism.

"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics


So, socialism is the Democrat ticket to the White House.

More to follow.....

Government is socialism. You cannot have socialism without Government.

Pareto Optimal public policies is a social goal not a capital goal.

Govt is socialism.....wtf is that?
This guy is a moron...No wonder they love morons like AOC, they're dumber than she is

 

[buckeye45_73]

Thank a for the definition Poli. As you can see, all these GOP claims of dem socialism are false since they don’t meet your definition.

So what is the difference

 

[buckeye45_73]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

Timmy is nothing but an npc bot

 

[danielpalos]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

there is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution; no wall building clause, either.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

Timmy is nothing but an npc bot

Naw, he's just so stuck on partisan mode that it looks that way. Every once and awhile I see signs of him reasoning things out. It's rare but i have seen it.

 

[danielpalos]

Or….Remedial Education: Socialism 101

CliffsNotes version: Socialism is theft.

Now, the details.



1.There is this definition of socialism:
“ any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state Definition of SOCIALISM




2. Recognizing how odious this system would be for any who favor liberty, ersatz socialists like to put ‘democratic’ in front of the word, as though that makes any difference. As the saying goes, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International



“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table
Putting the Cards on the Table




3. The last presidential election was interesting in that the most powerful political party ran as their two top candidates, a socialist and a career criminal.

At this time they've decided to go with socialism.

"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics


So, socialism is the Democrat ticket to the White House.

More to follow.....

Government is socialism. You cannot have socialism without Government.

Pareto Optimal public policies is a social goal not a capital goal.

Govt is socialism.....wtf is that?
This guy is a moron...No wonder they love morons like AOC, they're dumber than she is

why do you say that? simply being a bigot is worthless.

 

[danielpalos]

Thank a for the definition Poli. As you can see, all these GOP claims of dem socialism are false since they don’t meet your definition.

So what is the difference

a valid argument versus an appeal to emotion with the term, socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Communism slaughtered over 100 million men, women, and children.

Slaughter is the only way it remains in power!



But socialism isn’t communism!!!!!

Yup….it is.





6. As another attempt to hide the nature of the system is to pretend it is different from the system that slaughters some 100 million people, communism….it isn’t.

In an article on socialism in the Encyclopedia Britannica, Prof. G. D. H. Cole, a leading theoretician and historian of the British Labor Party, declares: The distinction between socialism as distinguished by various Labor and Socialist parties of Europe and the New World, and communism, as represented by the Russians and minority parties in other countries is one of tactics-and-strategy rather than one of objective. Communism is indeed only socialism pursued by revolutionary means and making its revolutionary method a canon of faith...."
In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels stated that communist ends can be attained "only by the forcible overthrow
of all existing social conditions."


One of the many disguises socialists/communists use is to come up with new titles for totalitarianism:

The Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders-the openly socialist then Congressman from Vermont, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the radical Washington DC based "think tank" Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

Many members were and continue to be linked to DSA and/or the Communist Party USA, IPS or other radical organizations.

From small beginnings the CPC has grown to embrace more than 80 members of Congress and three in the Senate. Congressional Progressive Caucus - KeyWiki





Until this round, the attempt was made to hide that they are communists and socialists. Today they feel strong enough to scream their devotions out loud.


Today it is hard to call their opponents ‘Nazis’ as the Nazis stood for the same things Democrats, socialists, communists do.

 

[danielpalos]

Communism slaughtered over 100 million men, women, and children.

Slaughter is the only way it remains in power!



But socialism isn’t communism!!!!!

Yup….it is.





6. As another attempt to hide the nature of the system is to pretend it is different from the system that slaughters some 100 million people, communism….it isn’t.

In an article on socialism in the Encyclopedia Britannica, Prof. G. D. H. Cole, a leading theoretician and historian of the British Labor Party, declares: The distinction between socialism as distinguished by various Labor and Socialist parties of Europe and the New World, and communism, as represented by the Russians and minority parties in other countries is one of tactics-and-strategy rather than one of objective. Communism is indeed only socialism pursued by revolutionary means and making its revolutionary method a canon of faith...."
In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels stated that communist ends can be attained "only by the forcible overthrow
of all existing social conditions."


One of the many disguises socialists/communists use is to come up with new titles for totalitarianism:

The Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders-the openly socialist then Congressman from Vermont, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the radical Washington DC based "think tank" Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

Many members were and continue to be linked to DSA and/or the Communist Party USA, IPS or other radical organizations.

From small beginnings the CPC has grown to embrace more than 80 members of Congress and three in the Senate. Congressional Progressive Caucus - KeyWiki





Until this round, the attempt was made to hide that they are communists and socialists. Today they feel strong enough to scream their devotions out loud.


Today it is hard to call their opponents ‘Nazis’ as the Nazis stood for the same things Democrats, socialists, communists do.

we have no "private law establishment", it is a public, government service.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

"It is a great irony of communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point. It was believed that government could be omnipotent and omniscient. And in order to justify the idea that all lives should be determined by a single plan, the concomitant tendency of communist regimes was to deify the leader- whether Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Kim Il-sung."
Tom Bethell, "The Noblest Triumph," p. 144





8. In order to support socialism, the political view that is famous for its hatred of religion, claims are that socialism is religiously inspired, after all….aren’t we required to share with the poor?

Not only is the idea of 'socialism' an absolute corruption of the message of the Bible....but the service to others, to customers, provided to accomplish the voluntary transactions that are an inherent part of capitalism is more in accord with Judeo-Christian values than is socialism/Liberalism.
An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'


"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved.
With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.”
Is God a Socialist?



Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism or Progressivism.


QED: there is no religious defense for socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Socialism advances the view that need creates rights…..If I need something, e.g., I’m poor….I have the special right to demand it from others…and the less successful one is, the more of these ‘rights’ they have….no matter the reason for that lack of success.




And this view is in accord with socialists, like Ocasio-Cortez: “Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal offers 'economic security' for those 'unwilling to work.'”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-offers-economic-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work.html

Is this religion based? Nope.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat”




Socialism breaks at least three rules of the Bible:

1.Idolatry: one should worship God, not the state

2. Thievery…socialism is theft; government takes from earners, and gives to whomever it deems worthy.

3. Jealousy….one should not covet one’s neighbor’s property. That’s why the discussion of ‘income inequality’ has no place in our society.

 

[Timmy]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

Yes we have regulations for biz. You can’t discriminate and you can’t serve spoiled food. I’m cool with that .

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. While we on the Right can point to failures such as Venezuela and Cuba….socialism writ large…..the Leftists point to Canada and Scandinavian nations as glowing examples of socialism.

Except that they aren’t.

They are capitalist nations with some socialist policies….Canada, socialized medicine, for example, paid for by a free market economy.




The Scandinavian nations are not socialist economies; Denmark has a freer economy than does the USA. Higher tax rates to support the redistributionist part, but far less business regulation than America.

“Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen told students that he had “absolutely no wish to interfere the presidential debate in the US” but nonetheless attempted to set the record straight about his country.
"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.




“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.
The PM’s comments come after US presidential hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton used part of the first Democratic debate to discuss how the United States could emulate Scandinavia.” Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist

“The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
Northern lights



Check out the rankings of economic freedom, here: Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

 

[PoliticalChic]

What industry is owned by the government!??

Bake that cake or else!
Smash those perfectly good used cars!
Buy this insurance plan or else!


If those aren't the government trying to control a private business I don't know what is.

You leftist think if you manipulate the public SLOWLY you can gain control and eventually exert your dominance

Yes we have regulations for biz. You can’t discriminate and you can’t serve spoiled food. I’m cool with that .

And now for an explanation of freedom vs. socialism, on a level folks like Timmy might understand.


The Dog and the Wolf


A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.

 

[danielpalos]

7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

"It is a great irony of communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point. It was believed that government could be omnipotent and omniscient. And in order to justify the idea that all lives should be determined by a single plan, the concomitant tendency of communist regimes was to deify the leader- whether Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Kim Il-sung."
Tom Bethell, "The Noblest Triumph," p. 144





8. In order to support socialism, the political view that is famous for its hatred of religion, claims are that socialism is religiously inspired, after all….aren’t we required to share with the poor?

Not only is the idea of 'socialism' an absolute corruption of the message of the Bible....but the service to others, to customers, provided to accomplish the voluntary transactions that are an inherent part of capitalism is more in accord with Judeo-Christian values than is socialism/Liberalism.
An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'


"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved.
With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.”
Is God a Socialist?



Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism or Progressivism.


QED: there is no religious defense for socialism.

Ten simple Commandments from a God; and, we could achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

 

[danielpalos]

9. Socialism advances the view that need creates rights…..If I need something, e.g., I’m poor….I have the special right to demand it from others…and the less successful one is, the more of these ‘rights’ they have….no matter the reason for that lack of success.




And this view is in accord with socialists, like Ocasio-Cortez: “Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal offers 'economic security' for those 'unwilling to work.'”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-offers-economic-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work.html

Is this religion based? Nope.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat”




Socialism breaks at least three rules of the Bible:

1.Idolatry: one should worship God, not the state

2. Thievery…socialism is theft; government takes from earners, and gives to whomever it deems worthy.

3. Jealousy….one should not covet one’s neighbor’s property. That’s why the discussion of ‘income inequality’ has no place in our society.

those unwilling to work will be capitally punished by being Poor.

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. How about the USSR.....that sure was the real socialism/communism.
Not doubt the Bolshevik 'hometown' would sing the praises of socialism/communism........wouldn't it?????


Nope.


Boris Yeltsin himself showed the error of this attempt:

In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:
“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.

Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.” GORBACHEV, YELTSIN SAY COMMUNISM FAILED USSR




Yet....morons still champion it.
Go for it, Democrats....

 

[Edgetho]

7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'. It does not and has not ever existed.

The word 'nazi' is a shortened nickname for the German Political party NationalSozialistische Deutsche ArbeiterPartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). In the German Pronunciation, the word 'national' sounds like 'nazional'. Hence, nazi.

Just like 'sozi' was a shortened nickname for socialists at the time. Germans make a lot 'z' noises

What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. Hitler was a socialist. And a nationalist. Nationalists can be -- Anything. Except libertarians. libertarians piss me off

The difference is/was, most socialists then and now are/were International socialists. Hitler really didn't care about the rest of the world. He was only interested in German socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'. It does not and has not ever existed.

The word 'nazi' is a shortened nickname for the German Political party NationalSozialistische Deutsche ArbeiterPartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). In the German Pronunciation, the word 'national' sounds like 'nazional'. Hence, nazi.

Just like 'sozi' was a shortened nickname for socialists at the time. Germans make a lot 'z' noises

What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. Hitler was a socialist. And a nationalist. Nationalists can be -- Anything. Except libertarians. libertarians piss me off

The difference is/was, most socialists then and now are/were International socialists. Hitler really didn't care about the rest of the world. He was only interested in German socialism.

"With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'....What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. "


Doesn't mean that 'there's no such thing as Nazism."



I believe I correctly placed it with the other Leftist views.



b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




These systems are basically the same: socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism, as all fall into category b. The alternative is that of the Founders of America, conservatives, the Right.

Oh…and one more thing:

The category ‘b’s’ are all totalitarian.
And as the Democrats/Liberals/Progressives have revealed that they favor infanticide, none of the six value the sanctity of human life.

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky