An Example of Disinformation Designed to Deiscredit Tea Party Folks

[ScienceRocks]

And yet these assholes have the nerve to bring in millions of h1b's because they're so effin greedy that they can't pay the American worker right??? Yet you say you're for work?? hahaha. idiitots

 

[JimBowie1958]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Tea party fights for deregulations, low taxes on the super rich at a time of record profit and more of the same crappy policies of the past 40 years in economics. Funny how the 40's, 50's, 60's into the 70's that had 60% taxes on the riches also had the biggest middle class, biggest industry in world history and best everything. Maybe it is time to tell the tea party to go **** its self and go back to those times???

And yet these assholes have the nerve to bring in millions of h1b's because they're so effin greedy that they can't pay the American worker right??? Yet you say you're for work?? hahaha. idiitots

Tea PArty people and rank and file Republicans are against uncontrolled immigration and most I have met are also against raising the H1-B visa limit, unlike the Democratic party. The RINOs in the GOP establishment want unfettered immigration and open borders to crash wage scales as much as possible. Their tactic is to divide workers against each other and so far they have been very successful and the partisan divide among workers is one of their most successful stage tricks, Matthew and you seem to have completely fallen for it.

 

[Dad2three]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

"Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies."


HINT SCIENCE SAYS IT DOES!!! Potential babies? Yes. Babies? NO

 

[JimBowie1958]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

"Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies."


HINT SCIENCE SAYS IT DOES!!! Potential babies? Yes. Babies? NO

There is no scientific definition of a baby, idiot. The vernacular has referred to unborn babies for millennia and calling them zygotes doesn't change a god damned thing, you PC Nazi murderous bastard.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If "There is no scientific definition of a baby," in the womb, I take, Jim, then there can be no murder.

Jim, I know you are getting thumped, but focus. Oh, you are defending your own disinformation campaign, so you can't focus, OK.

 

[Camp]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

All of the definitions I found defined babies as infants and children that had been born. You know that is right because you have now begun to call them "unborn babies".
The test of honesty is whether you could submit yours, mine or anyone's claim in a college level paper for review by one or more professors for accuracy. Do the sources of the information hold up and are they accepted as valid or do they fall under the realm of unreliable speculation or special agenda commentary?

 

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[peach174]

Twisted and out of context crap is all the tea people and the rest of the right have. If they were honorable and trust worthy, it wouldn't be that way.

Yeah like the progressives ad with throwing Grandma off the cliff.
Never mind that the bill did not include Seniors currently on Medicare.

 

[Dad2three]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

"Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies."


HINT SCIENCE SAYS IT DOES!!! Potential babies? Yes. Babies? NO

There is no scientific definition of a baby, idiot. The vernacular has referred to unborn babies for millennia and calling them zygotes doesn't change a god damned thing, you PC Nazi murderous bastard.

baby
Type: Term

Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:
1. An infant; a newborn child.

Baby -- Medical Definition

zygote

/ˈzaɪɡəʊt; ˈzɪɡ-/
noun
1.
the cell resulting from the union of an ovum and a spermatozoon
2.
the organism that develops from such a cell


Fetus
Definition

noun, plural: fetuses

The yet-to-be born mammalian offspring following the embryonic stage, and is still going through further development prior to birth



Following the embryonic stage, the developing young enters the fetal period, which is in the later stages of development prior to birth. The fetal period is when the offspring has taken a recognizable form as its own species. The fetus is also characterized to possess the major organs in contrast to an embryo. The fetal organs though are not yet fully functional and are still undergoing further development.

In humans, the embryo is called a fetus at the ninth week from the time of conception up to the moment of birth. After being born, the offspring is called an infant or a newborn.

Fetus - Biology-Online Dictionary

 

[Dad2three]

Twisted and out of context crap is all the tea people and the rest of the right have. If they were honorable and trust worthy, it wouldn't be that way.

Yeah like the progressives ad with throwing Grandma off the cliff.
Never mind that the bill did not include Seniors currently on Medicare.

Nah, just future Grandma's thrown off the cliff right?

 

[peach174]

You are confirming BULLDOG's comment. You present your opinions which are based on speculative opinions as if they are facts. Even if some of your claims hold some truth to them, they are still not verified facts, but only opinions. All of them have been presented by the Tea Party, if not always, at least most often with gross distortion.

Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts: FACT, though they try to do a little CYA claiming this is only 'tissue donations' to science when PP was caught red handed on video negotiating prices.

Hillary is lying about her emails; FACT though her partisan supporters are claiming it is all about nothing, Hilalry was a classified information trained SECRETARY OF STATE and knew that foreign reports containing intelligence they were sharing are automatically considered classifed and, though it is a fact they were on her unsecure server, she continues to insist she had no knowledge of there being classified emails on that aserver. That is simply an obvious lie. You can call it opinion all you want, but to any fair minded nonPartisan person it is obvious that she is lying.


Obama lied about you being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them; FACT again, Obama knew it wasnt true when he said it, and that is a lie, even in Democrat lingo.

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions. Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact. The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies. You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

You got any examples of anyone saying I am having a fetus?
It is only referred to as a fetus when getting an abortion.
It becomes a baby, to fetus, a nothing, when being aborted, when it is and always will be a baby.

 

[peach174]

Twisted and out of context crap is all the tea people and the rest of the right have. If they were honorable and trust worthy, it wouldn't be that way.

Yeah like the progressives ad with throwing Grandma off the cliff.
Never mind that the bill did not include Seniors currently on Medicare.

Nah, just future Grandma's thrown off the cliff right?

It was a clear message for current Seniors, a scare tactic.

 

[Camp]

You are confirming BULLDOG's comment. You present your opinions which are based on speculative opinions as if they are facts. Even if some of your claims hold some truth to them, they are still not verified facts, but only opinions. All of them have been presented by the Tea Party, if not always, at least most often with gross distortion.

Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts: FACT, though they try to do a little CYA claiming this is only 'tissue donations' to science when PP was caught red handed on video negotiating prices.

Hillary is lying about her emails; FACT though her partisan supporters are claiming it is all about nothing, Hilalry was a classified information trained SECRETARY OF STATE and knew that foreign reports containing intelligence they were sharing are automatically considered classifed and, though it is a fact they were on her unsecure server, she continues to insist she had no knowledge of there being classified emails on that aserver. That is simply an obvious lie. You can call it opinion all you want, but to any fair minded nonPartisan person it is obvious that she is lying.


Obama lied about you being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them; FACT again, Obama knew it wasnt true when he said it, and that is a lie, even in Democrat lingo.

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions. Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact. The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies. You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

You got any examples of anyone saying I am having a fetus?
It is only referred to as a fetus when getting an abortion.
It becomes a baby, to fetus, a nothing, when being aborted, when it is and always will be a baby.

A fetus does not live outside of it's mothers womb. It becomes a baby when it leaves the womb. To say a person is having a fetus is to imply the person is giving birth to a child not yet ready to be live born. A fetus born not alive is called a still born.
Perhaps if you learned and used definitions as defined in dictionaries instead of you fantasy world and imagination you would not make such silly statements.

 

[peach174]

You are confirming BULLDOG's comment. You present your opinions which are based on speculative opinions as if they are facts. Even if some of your claims hold some truth to them, they are still not verified facts, but only opinions. All of them have been presented by the Tea Party, if not always, at least most often with gross distortion.

Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts: FACT, though they try to do a little CYA claiming this is only 'tissue donations' to science when PP was caught red handed on video negotiating prices.

Hillary is lying about her emails; FACT though her partisan supporters are claiming it is all about nothing, Hilalry was a classified information trained SECRETARY OF STATE and knew that foreign reports containing intelligence they were sharing are automatically considered classifed and, though it is a fact they were on her unsecure server, she continues to insist she had no knowledge of there being classified emails on that aserver. That is simply an obvious lie. You can call it opinion all you want, but to any fair minded nonPartisan person it is obvious that she is lying.


Obama lied about you being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them; FACT again, Obama knew it wasnt true when he said it, and that is a lie, even in Democrat lingo.

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions. Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact. The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies. You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

You got any examples of anyone saying I am having a fetus?
It is only referred to as a fetus when getting an abortion.
It becomes a baby, to fetus, a nothing, when being aborted, when it is and always will be a baby.

A fetus does not live outside of it's mothers womb. It becomes a baby when it leaves the womb. To say a person is having a fetus is to imply the person is giving birth to a child not yet ready to be live born. A fetus born not alive is called a still born.
Perhaps if you learned and used definitions as defined in dictionaries instead of you fantasy world and imagination you would not make such silly statements.

NOBODY who is pregnant says that they are having a fetus.

 

[Camp]

You are confirming BULLDOG's comment. You present your opinions which are based on speculative opinions as if they are facts. Even if some of your claims hold some truth to them, they are still not verified facts, but only opinions. All of them have been presented by the Tea Party, if not always, at least most often with gross distortion.

Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts: FACT, though they try to do a little CYA claiming this is only 'tissue donations' to science when PP was caught red handed on video negotiating prices.

Hillary is lying about her emails; FACT though her partisan supporters are claiming it is all about nothing, Hilalry was a classified information trained SECRETARY OF STATE and knew that foreign reports containing intelligence they were sharing are automatically considered classifed and, though it is a fact they were on her unsecure server, she continues to insist she had no knowledge of there being classified emails on that aserver. That is simply an obvious lie. You can call it opinion all you want, but to any fair minded nonPartisan person it is obvious that she is lying.


Obama lied about you being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them; FACT again, Obama knew it wasnt true when he said it, and that is a lie, even in Democrat lingo.

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions. Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact. The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies. You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

You got any examples of anyone saying I am having a fetus?
It is only referred to as a fetus when getting an abortion.
It becomes a baby, to fetus, a nothing, when being aborted, when it is and always will be a baby.

A fetus does not live outside of it's mothers womb. It becomes a baby when it leaves the womb. To say a person is having a fetus is to imply the person is giving birth to a child not yet ready to be live born. A fetus born not alive is called a still born.
Perhaps if you learned and used definitions as defined in dictionaries instead of you fantasy world and imagination you would not make such silly statements.

NOBODY who is pregnant says that they are having a fetus.

I explained it to you. Nobody wants to proclaim they are having a dead baby. They say they are having a baby to imply they are going to give birth to a live child. Why would they say they were going to have a fetus that can not live outside the mothers womb?

 

[Dad2three]

Twisted and out of context crap is all the tea people and the rest of the right have. If they were honorable and trust worthy, it wouldn't be that way.

Yeah like the progressives ad with throwing Grandma off the cliff.
Never mind that the bill did not include Seniors currently on Medicare.

Nah, just future Grandma's thrown off the cliff right?

It was a clear message for current Seniors, a scare tactic.

Yep, just like the GOP's "clear message" that Obama raided Medicare for ACA, but leaving out they did the same thing, but used it for tax cuts!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts: FACT, though they try to do a little CYA claiming this is only 'tissue donations' to science when PP was caught red handed on video negotiating prices.

Hillary is lying about her emails; FACT though her partisan supporters are claiming it is all about nothing, Hilalry was a classified information trained SECRETARY OF STATE and knew that foreign reports containing intelligence they were sharing are automatically considered classifed and, though it is a fact they were on her unsecure server, she continues to insist she had no knowledge of there being classified emails on that aserver. That is simply an obvious lie. You can call it opinion all you want, but to any fair minded nonPartisan person it is obvious that she is lying.


Obama lied about you being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them; FACT again, Obama knew it wasnt true when he said it, and that is a lie, even in Democrat lingo.

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions. Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact. The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies. You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

You got any examples of anyone saying I am having a fetus?
It is only referred to as a fetus when getting an abortion.
It becomes a baby, to fetus, a nothing, when being aborted, when it is and always will be a baby.

A fetus does not live outside of it's mothers womb. It becomes a baby when it leaves the womb. To say a person is having a fetus is to imply the person is giving birth to a child not yet ready to be live born. A fetus born not alive is called a still born.
Perhaps if you learned and used definitions as defined in dictionaries instead of you fantasy world and imagination you would not make such silly statements.

NOBODY who is pregnant says that they are having a fetus.

I explained it to you. Nobody wants to proclaim they are having a dead baby. They say they are having a baby to imply they are going to give birth to a live child. Why would they say they were going to have a fetus that can not live outside the mothers womb?

Complete and utter nonsense.

no one called unborn babies fetuses outside of a clinical setting except for murderous baby killing mills became popular among the murder loving libtards started promoting abortion.

You hide behind technical definitions as if they disguised our meaning and intent which is murdering unborn babies, nothing less.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Again, distortions ans speculative opinions.

And that is your opinion but it is based on nothing more than your unsupported assertions.

I am content to let the readers, including lurkers, make their own judgements.

Just because you call zygotes, fetuses and tissue a baby doesn't make it true or a fact.

And just because you call babies zygotes, does not make them anything else than an unborn baby.

The fact is, scientifically and technically those were not babies.

No, truth is that subclassing a subject does not exclude it from broader categories.

Just because a truck is a truck, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a vehicle.

Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies.

You have distorted the story by referring to a fetus as a baby. Your other examples use the same kind of distortions.

And your assertions are unsupported and nothing more than opinion and your distortions are obvious as you pretend to be a neutral arbitrator and stack the deck as you distort all three subjects.

But at least you are being a reasonable person and present a respectful tone....at least so far.

"Just because a baby is a zygote does not make them unborn babies."


HINT SCIENCE SAYS IT DOES!!! Potential babies? Yes. Babies? NO

There is no scientific definition of a baby, idiot. The vernacular has referred to unborn babies for millennia and calling them zygotes doesn't change a god damned thing, you PC Nazi murderous bastard.

baby
Type: Term

Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:
1. An infant; a newborn child.

Baby -- Medical Definition

zygote

/ˈzaɪɡəʊt; ˈzɪɡ-/
noun
1.
the cell resulting from the union of an ovum and a spermatozoon
2.
the organism that develops from such a cell


Fetus
Definition

noun, plural: fetuses

The yet-to-be born mammalian offspring following the embryonic stage, and is still going through further development prior to birth



Following the embryonic stage, the developing young enters the fetal period, which is in the later stages of development prior to birth. The fetal period is when the offspring has taken a recognizable form as its own species. The fetus is also characterized to possess the major organs in contrast to an embryo. The fetal organs though are not yet fully functional and are still undergoing further development.

In humans, the embryo is called a fetus at the ninth week from the time of conception up to the moment of birth. After being born, the offspring is called an infant or a newborn.

Fetus - Biology-Online Dictionary

Again, just more lies and cherry picked data from another degenerate who cant wait to see more babies slaughtered.

Even the Nazis didn't tolerate post partem abortions for normal children.

As to your bullshit word play:

baby
ba·by
(bā′bē)
n. pl. ba·bies
1. a. A very young child; an infant.
b. An unborn child; a fetus.
c. The youngest member of a family or group.
d. A very young animal.

 

[Lakhota]