An "Epstein Client List" from those who would KNOW

[jc456]

Obviously because they've been advised no to, for legal reasons.

what legal reasons can that be exactly?

 

[MisterBeale]

As far as I can tell, they did what we're all taught to do, which is to use the U.S. justice system to pursue a legal solution on their behalf.

Instead they discovered not only does "no one cares" what was done to them, but when the offenders are wealthy and powerful men, then all types of unsavory tactics will be taken to neutralize the "problem" include character assassination, threats of harm to the victims and or their loved ones and even the complete destruction of their lives.

So even though the average person wouldn't have a lot that they could do about this situation, but due to how poorly this situation has been handled as well as all of the attempts at a legal solution, the survivors now have at their disposal a ton of corroborating "direct" evidence in the form of court filings, sworn testimony in the form of video-taped depositions, and other government generated documents, audio & video.

Epstein is alleged to have in excess of 1,000 victims. He & Maxwell cannot be the only perpetrators.

Where's Trump's accusers?

 

[MisterBeale]

seems more like the victims aren't accusing anyone. Why is that is you think this is true?

Think about it.

If the establishment holds all the evidence, and have thus far been refusing to release any it, what is the point?

 

[Mac1958]

what legal reasons can that be exactly?

Libel, slander.

 

[MisterBeale]

Why is Trump keeping them from us? Is he controlled by the global power?

Why did Biden and Maureen Comey keep that information from us?

same same

 

[jc456]

Remember

 

[jc456]

Libel, slander.

why would it be slander if it happened to them?

 

[jc456]

Think about it.

If the establishment holds all the evidence, and have thus far been refusing to release any it, what is the point?

it happened to them? There isn't any logic in that statement.

 

[Mac1958]

As far as I can tell, they did what we're all taught to do, which is to use the U.S. justice system to pursue a legal solution on their behalf.

Instead they discovered not only does "no one cares" what was done to them, but when the offenders are wealthy and powerful men, then all types of unsavory tactics will be taken to neutralize the "problem" include character assassination, threats of harm to the victims and or their loved ones and even the complete destruction of their lives.

So even though the average person wouldn't have a lot that they could do about this situation, but due to how poorly this situation has been handled as well as all of the attempts at a legal solution, the survivors now have at their disposal a ton of corroborating "direct" evidence in the form of court filings, sworn testimony in the form of video-taped depositions, and other government generated documents, audio & video.

Epstein is alleged to have in excess of 1,000 victims. He & Maxwell cannot be the only perpetrators.

Yeah, this was either huge in scale or it mostly just Maxwell and Epstein. There's a pretty long list of "reports" and supposed "materials" that say it was the former. The way we keep getting obfuscation would make a reasonable person think that, too.

So let's cut the crap and get the whole story.

 

[popscottpopscott]

seems more like the victims aren't accusing anyone. Why is that is you think this is true?

I have listened to several victims that broke their silence.... they all were referring to Epstein and Epstein alone... they mentioned no one else... I think it is great if they do create their own list of "clients".... but they will have to back up their claims with some evidence or proof.... I have yet to see any names other than Epstein and Maxwell being mentioned... which is exactly what any/ all court filing reflect so far... Virginia Giuffre is the closest yet with a civil, not criminal, case that included a financial payment, but did not involve any admission of liability or wrongdoing.

 

[jc456]

I have listened to several victims that broke their silence.... they all were referring to Epstein and Epstein alone... they mentioned no one else... I think it is great if they do create their own list of "clients".... but they will have to back up their claims with some evidence or proof.... I have yet to see any names other than Epstein and Maxwell being mentioned... which is exactly what any/ all court filing reflect so far... Virginia Giuffre is the closest yet with a civil, not criminal, case that included a financial payment, but did not involve any admission of liability or wrongdoing.

well, isn't that sort of the story right there. Evidence. Without video's of anyone, there is just talk, and the talk is it was only Epstein. Prince Andrew was the only one ever accused besides Epstein.

 

[MisterBeale]

it happened to them? There isn't any logic in that statement.

So what you are confirming is, that it would then boil down to a "she said," versus "he said."

The word of poor young girls against the most powerful and wealthy folks on the planet. . .

And you think there is any shot at justice?

 

[MisterBeale]

why would it be slander if it happened to them?

Because the rich and powerful can afford the best lawyers, the poor have practically no legal resources by comparison.

And we already know which side the state would take given how this issue has been handled so far.

 

[OldFlame]

So what you are confirming is, that it would then boil down to a "she said," versus "he said."

The word of poor young girls against the most powerful and wealthy folks on the planet. . .

And you think there is any shot at justice?

Do you want people convicted on someone's word alone? I'm not sure what you expect?

 

[Rawley]

As far as I can tell, they did what we're all taught to do, which is to use the U.S. justice system to pursue a legal solution on their behalf.

Huh? If they were raped, the "legal solution" is going to the police and filing a criminal complaint. This would have been public.

 

[OldFlame]

So what you are confirming is, that it would then boil down to a "she said," versus "he said."

The word of poor young girls against the most powerful and wealthy folks on the planet. . .

And you think there is any shot at justice?

Do you remember the Duke Lacrosse case? Poor young black girl against 'wealthy white college guys', and it was all a lie.

 

[jc456]

So what you are confirming is, that it would then boil down to a "she said," versus "he said."

The first question I'd have is proof they were under Epstein control, then ask how did they get out? Then I'd ask who they spoke to after getting out? isn't that normal? Time, date, any other persons with them? I don't know, seems there is more there.

The word of poor young girls against the most powerful and wealthy folks on the planet. . .

were they all confirmed with Epstein? What difference is there then if someone had a client list? Without a body, there is no crime.

And you think there is any shot at justice?

you think a client list is?

 

[Papageorgio]

Where, or how, did I express humor in my post?

Why are you ascribing such negative connotations to it?

I know you aren’t that stupid, nice try.

 

[odanny]

 

[MisterBeale]

Do you remember the Duke Lacrosse case? Poor young black girl against 'wealthy white college guys', and it was all a lie.

I guess that means all information you don't like must be a lie.