An articulate pro-MAGA argument for a tariff reset

[SweetTea]

But increasing inflation possibility is.

Then why aren't they raising rates?

 

[SweetTea]

Fed cant tell if the issue is going to be higher prices from Trump Tariffs or crashing demand and recession from Trump Tariffs. They are waiting to see.

Core inflation includes everything I listed. If the economy doesnt crash you likely will see it rise throughout the year. How much? Probably a half to a full percent. The stuff my company sells will be rising about 4-5%. Normally its 2-3%. So about 2% inflation bump. If half of companies see the same that is 1% inflation on top of current rate. Just as guess.

Even if true, wage growth will still likely out pace inflation.

 

[citygator]

Even if true, wage growth will still likely out pace inflation.

It did during Biden’s years. Didn’t seem to satisfy the masses. Inflation of 3-4% will likely get the GOP wiped out in the midterms if history holds.

 

[SweetTea]

It did during Biden’s years. Didn’t seem to satisfy the masses. Inflation of 3-4% will likely get the GOP wiped out in the midterms if history holds.

Core inflation won't be that high. The only thing that will wipe out the GOP in the midterms is a slew of misinformation from the MSM that fools those that are unable to think for themselves.

 

[citygator]

Core inflation won't be that high. The only thing that will wipe out the GOP in the midterms is a slew of misinformation from the MSM that fools those that are unable to think for themselves.

Let me get this straight. The Democrats gain one seat in the house and lose 4 in the senate resulting in the narrowest majority a party has had in 90 years and you think the dems are falling apart... and if the GOP gets wiped out in the midterms it means nothing? How do you function with that logic?

 

[j-mac]

Rethinking Trade Tariffs: Why a Global Trade Reset is Good for Growth

For those of us who are pro-tariff but very much against the way this whole thing has been handled, that's a link to an articulate, intelligent argument for what Trump is doing. Obviously it's one-sided, but it is thoughtful and reasonable.

This is precisely the kind of argument that could have been made to our trading parters and (former) friends behind closed doors from the beginning. We could even have put the hammer down and said something like "America is going to see to it that this reset happens. We very much want to work closely with you on it, but please understand it's time for a reset". But this insane clown show was not required.

That's how it's done in a respectful, intelligent, professional way, instead of resorting to insults, accusations, mockery, anger, intimidation and punishment. We've now seriously damaged our relationships with our (former) friends, they're creating new trade relationships that don't include us, and it never had to happen.

Well, there ya go. Mac is on again with another DEI believer, but will tell you that doesn’t matter…What a joke.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you aren't looking at those numbers. I see. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your conclusions are not supported by the numbers.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Then why aren't they raising rates?

... because they are not sure yet it will continue to rise, so they are waiting for the first week of August.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Even if true, wage growth will still likely out pace inflation.

That does not seem to be the indication. The Fed was pleasantly startled by the NLPR and the number of jobs created last time.

They want to see that again.

Trump wants to cut know so that business can leverage at lower rates.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Core inflation won't be that high. The only thing that will wipe out the GOP in the midterms is a slew of misinformation from the MSM that fools those that are unable to think for themselves.

You want to bet on what you can't guarantee.

If inflation continues and job losses begin, the GOP will lose. If the Epstein files becomes a disaster for Trump, then his base will fracture.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Let me get this straight. The Democrats gain one seat in the house and lose 4 in the senate resulting in the narrowest majority a party has had in 90 years and you think the dems are falling apart... and if the GOP gets wiped out in the midterms it means nothing? How do you function with that logic?

MAGA thinking is very skewed.

 

[SweetTea]

Let me get this straight. The Democrats gain one seat in the house and lose 4 in the senate resulting in the narrowest majority a party has had in 90 years and you think the dems are falling apart... and if the GOP gets wiped out in the midterms it means nothing? How do you function with that logic?

I didn't say either of those things. I simply stated that indoctrinated young kids and adults that have never matured are the only hope of the Democratic Party. They could carry them to victory, but it will be a disaster for our country.

 

[SweetTea]

You want to bet on what you can't guarantee.

If inflation continues and job losses begin, the GOP will lose. If the Epstein files becomes a disaster for Trump, then his base will fracture.

You mean if inflation begins? We are on pace to have lower inflation this year than last. Did you not know that?

 

[SweetTea]

Your conclusions are not supported by the numbers.

The CPI and the PPI are key metrics. What "numbers" are you using or are you just listening to the talking heads on your "news" outlets?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I didn't say either of those things. I simply stated that indoctrinated young kids and adults that have never matured are the only hope of the Democratic Party. They could carry them to victory, but it will be a disaster for our country.

Your statements are gigglers, are they not?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You mean if inflation begins? We are on pace to have lower inflation this year than last. Did you not know that?

Stop lying. It is over 3.3% from a 2.7% low. That is called 'going up.' Did you not know that.

 

[citygator]

I didn't say either of those things. I simply stated that indoctrinated young kids and adults that have never matured are the only hope of the Democratic Party. They could carry them to victory, but it will be a disaster for our country.

I dont think I will spend any time worrying about your prognostications if that is ok with you. I suspect you havent become wealthy predicting the future.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The CPI and the PPI are key metrics. What "numbers" are you using or are you just listening to the talking heads on your "news" outlets?

Stop acting moronic because you are not. They are up.

Yes — both the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and the Producer Price Index (PPI) have increased over the past six months, though modestly.

Consumer Price Index (CPI)

• The CPI rose from 317.60 in December 2024 to 320.58 in May 2025, a 0.94% increase.
• The annual inflation rate for May 2025 was 2.4%, slightly up from 2.3% in April.
• Monthly changes have been small, ranging from 0.1% to 0.5%, indicating stable but persistent inflation.

Producer Price Index (PPI)

• The PPI climbed from 147.13 in December 2024 to 148.07 in May 2025, a 0.64% increase.
• The year-over-year increase for May was 2.6%, up from 2.3% in April.
• Monthly gains have hovered around 0.1% to 0.2%, with services and goods both contributing to the rise.

What it means:

• These increases suggest moderate inflationary pressure at both the consumer and producer levels.
• The CPI reflects what households pay for goods and services, while the PPI tracks what producers receive — so rising PPI can signal future CPI increases.

 

[Cellblock2429]

You must be looking at different CPI and PPI numbers than me.

/----/ Slow Brain just makes numbers up and posts them as fact.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Stop acting moronic because you are not. They are up.

Yes — both the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and the Producer Price Index (PPI) have increased over the past six months, though modestly.

Consumer Price Index (CPI)

• The CPI rose from 317.60 in December 2024 to 320.58 in May 2025, a 0.94% increase.
• The annual inflation rate for May 2025 was 2.4%, slightly up from 2.3% in April.
• Monthly changes have been small, ranging from 0.1% to 0.5%, indicating stable but persistent inflation.

Producer Price Index (PPI)

• The PPI climbed from 147.13 in December 2024 to 148.07 in May 2025, a 0.64% increase.
• The year-over-year increase for May was 2.6%, up from 2.3% in April.
• Monthly gains have hovered around 0.1% to 0.2%, with services and goods both contributing to the rise.

What it means:

• These increases suggest moderate inflationary pressure at both the consumer and producer levels.
• The CPI reflects what households pay for goods and services, while the PPI tracks what producers receive — so rising PPI can signal future CPI increases.

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Current US Inflation Rates: 2000-2025​

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