Amid abortion battle, DeSantis vetoes birth-control funding – again

[pknopp]

Its a nice thought ending abortion.
As some one who was an adult when abortions were illegal, am telling you that
Those with money will still get an abortion,
those with out will self harm or get illegal abortions
, of those who don't abort many will raise unwanted or under feed or cared for children due to lack of resources.

There are things we can do to help a woman decide not to abort.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually the point of the money was to have less unintended pregnancies which leads to less abortions. Most people think that less abortions is a good thing, but clearly almost nobody in this thread feels that way

So where is this evidence of your claim? You are assuming that taxpayer paid BC is leading to less abortions. Based on what?

Florida reported more than 16,000 abortions in first three months of 2022

With the fate of Roe v. Wade hanging in the balance -- News4Jax is getting a look at how many abortions are performed in Florida each year, including in Duval County.

www.news4jax.com

 

[beautress]

People are not helpless without taxpayers money, but that small amount of taxpayers money would reduce the number of abortions...which is something your side pretends to care about. Is not having less abortions more important than a rich person getting a break on their boat supplies?

The only way to reduce spillage is to turn off the water supply, doll.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The only way to reduce spillage is to turn off the water supply, doll.

“If those things aren’t being supported by folks that truly want to reduce abortion, then I think the intention behind restricting abortion has nothing to do with women or people with uteruses,” she said. “It has everything to do with control.” ibid

Exactly.

 

[scruffy]

Contraceptive coverage is far less expensive than covering the needs of many born into poverty.

German social welfare mindset. ^^^

 

[scruffy]

Healthcare is vital for a healthy workforce. The US just can't seem to pull it off.

Another leftard liar. ^^^

 

[scruffy]

These same idiots also oppose sex education. You cant make this shit up.

PUBLIC sex education, dumbass.

STOP LYING, leftard fool.

 

[scruffy]

Oh dear.
What your bits are for.
How to protect yourself from unwanted outcomes.
Where to get help.
Pretty basic stuff really. Stuff that parents avoid if they can.

Fucking leftard LIAR. ^^^

Betcha ten bucks he's not a parent and never has been.

 

[scruffy]

Her tax money, her business.

No, fucktard.

Her tax money, MY business.

Her personal money, her business

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The best birth control is free. Just zip up. If you can't afford the kids, keep your legs closed.

Penelope hit the disagree button on that post. She must be a slut.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So where is this evidence of your claim? You are assuming that taxpayer paid BC is leading to less abortions. Based on what?

Florida reported more than 16,000 abortions in first three months of 2022

With the fate of Roe v. Wade hanging in the balance -- News4Jax is getting a look at how many abortions are performed in Florida each year, including in Duval County.

www.news4jax.com

Based on the fact that the rate of abortion per pregnancy has stayed pretty steady for the last 30 years. Less pregnancies means less abortions.

 

[Care4all]

Giving birth to a child is not force. It's not like women are walking down the street and all of a sudden a baby ball hits them in the head and they become pregnant.

That's true. They did have sex, the lover was unprotected, and she did "the naughty" anyway....likely in much less than 30 minutes.

Pregnancy is nearly 10 months....with health risks for the mother, especially if not white but an African American who die in childbirth more than other races....plus an additional 18 years of complete poverty for mother, her other children, and newborn child as well....

Yes, she should have done the moral and right thing and not ventured in to those 30 minutes with her legs spread, nor should he have unzipped his pants.....IF they hadn't, no abortion would be even contemplated! WHA LA!

But there is no easy button!

Not when it is legal to have sex outside of marriage....in the 60's I think they called it "Free Love" or something like that....! Before that, birth control of any kind, was illegal....even for married couples, until the SC found it unconstitutional for government to interfere or dictate what happens in our personal and private lives.


It's common practice now a days, and the past half century.... All perfectly legal....

That Pandora's box has been opened, and not so easily closed....

I don't want any girl or woman to have an abortion! They have no idea how fortunate they are to be able to bear a child....it's a gift in my eyes.... as someone who tried for 20 years with the hubby, and surgies, and procedures, and a lot of money and heartache to try to get pregnant.... it's hard for me to understand giving up a pregnancy, terminating it!

My issue though, is any government involvement in this situation and decision of the mother and father to be....especially while the baby to be is still unformed. This is such a personal and private matter..... Government should not even know a girl is pregnant or not, especially in the early stages before quickening and showing. Each situation for each woman is different, and they should be able to determine for themselves, with their doctor or advisors of choice, or no advisors, what is best for them.... If they make a bad decision, then they individually will suffer the consequences... Psychological, physical, financial, ethical, Biblical etc. in their own personal lives.

 

[Care4all]

Based on the fact that the rate of abortion per pregnancy has stayed pretty steady for the last 30 years. Less pregnancies means less abortions.

FYI .....In numbers, abortion has been reduced by nearly half White6...

1,500,000 abortions a year at its peak to around 800,000 a year now. More women are having babies out of wedlock and not aborting, it seems? Or better birth control?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

FYI .....In numbers, abortion has been reduced by nearly half White6...

1,500,000 abortions a year at its peak to around 800,000 a year now. More women are having babies out of wedlock and not aborting, it seems? Or better birth control?

Pregnancy rates have fallen, less women are getting pregnant over all.

 

[Care4all]

Pregnancy rates have fallen, less women are getting pregnant over all.

Birth control then.....

It's not like they are not having sex....?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Birth control then.....

It's not like they are not having sex....?

Yes, birth control. The whole point of this thread.

The people who make comments like "they should keep their legs closed" are just childish and are rather sexist as they never say the male should just leave his pants on.

It is a simple equation, anyone that wants less abortions should also want less pregnancies, and BC is the best way to make that happen.

These people are perfectly fine with spending 30 million to keep manatees safe but not 2 million to have less abortions. Shows where their true priorities lie

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You leftists make up more bullshit than anybody in the world. We don't want our children exposed to weirdos in school is all. Children will act out things they are taught because they don't know any better until a certain age, and that may cause mental harm later on when they do understand. It's your fellow Communists that feel they can groom kids into their beliefs, not us. That's why they were so upset with Florida's Parental Rights act. They want to keep starting their indoctrination younger and younger.

Raymond ffs. We have established on this thread that you cant "influence" anybody into being Gay. It just oesnt work like thaat.

To suggest that it is possible is to illustrate how fucking dumb you are..Or perhaps you can tell me when you chose to be straight (or Gay) or whatever you identify as.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Birth control then.....

It's not like they are not having sex....?

Maybe sex has gone out of fashion ?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

‘When Gov. Ron DeSantis slashed $3 billion from the state’s budget Thursday, one ill-fated item sounded familiar: Just as he did last year, DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control.

It was again Senate President Wilton Simpson, a Pasco County Republican, who included it in the $110 billion budget. Unlike last year, though, this veto landed amid a national reckoning on reproductive rights. It came weeks after a leaked Supreme Court opinion suggested the Court will overturn Roe v. Wade, and less than a month before Florida’s new 15-week abortion ban goes into effect.

Stephanie Fraim, the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Southwest and Central Florida — which includes the organization’s Tampa Bay-area clinics — questioned the rationale for the veto.

“Funding for this sensible investment in the health of our communities enjoys rare bipartisan support,” she said in an emailed statement. “And, thanks to President Biden, the Legislature was able to pass a balanced budget with plenty of money left in reserves. To take away health care from vulnerable people is just another example of his ongoing cruelty to Floridians.”’

Amid abortion battle, DeSantis vetoes birth-control funding — again

When Gov. Ron DeSantis slashed $3 billion from the state’s budget Thursday, one ill-fated item sounded familiar: Just as he did last year, DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control. It was again Senate President Wilton Simpson, a Pasco County...

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DeSantis is not alone among Republicans capable of such cruelty.

If you can't afford birth control and can't waddle down to the free clinic to get it you probably shouldn't be fucking around in the first place.

 

[bendog]

Yes, birth control. The whole point of this thread.

The people who make comments like "they should keep their legs closed" are just childish and are rather sexist as they never say the male should just leave his pants on.

It is a simple equation, anyone that wants less abortions should also want less pregnancies, and BC is the best way to make that happen.

These people are perfectly fine with spending 30 million to keep manatees safe but not 2 million to have less abortions. Shows where their true priorities lie

It wasn't the legislature, it was DeSantis. The dems are in deep shit for 2022. Biden is literally the dead albatross hanging around their neck, regardless of whether he retires and throws open the nomination. His and the progressives' performance on budget and natl resources is SO Bad, that it's a miracle he promised the VP to a black female and didn't derail any presidential ambition of Kolbacher or Duckworth. But vetoing funding for poor women to have long acting contraception is NOT the path to winning Penn, AZ, GA, Wis and Mich