American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage

[Correll]

Marriage in one's 20s is the recipe for divorce.

Nonsense. Address teh reasons for divorce and we can lower the rate of divorce.

There's no reason to rush into it while one is 25. That's just way too young.

Your desire to have the normal period of peak fertility to be.... out of normal bounds of family planning, is an unhealthy and unnatural society you want to have.

it is a bad idea, that will and has, has bad results.

 

[Correll]

This may be off topic, but I have a problem with your statement. Since I became aware of population figures in the late 50s, the world population has increased almost three fold. I have not seen any figures that suggest a declining world population for any year during that entire time. It may have slowed year over year but the population is not declining.

That is because poorer, shittier nations are still having growing birthrates, but overall, the trend is towards crashing birthrates.

The ones with the worst numbers are the most advanced nations.

So, the overall numbers are hiding how bad the problem is.

By the time it translates to absolute drop in numbers, the first world will be crashing terribly.

 

[Concerned American]

By the time it translates to absolute drop in numbers, the first world will be crashing terribly.

Sorry, but the numbers just do not support your contention.
US population in 2010---roughly 308M
US population in 2020---roughly 331M
US population in 2024---roughly 340M
US Census bureau.

 

[Correll]

Sorry, but the numbers just do not support your contention.
US population in 2010---roughly 308M
US population in 2020---roughly 331M
US population in 2024---roughly 340M
US Census bureau.

ALL that increase is driven by immigration. Not native Americans having a postive birth rate.

 

[Zincwarrior]

ALL that increase is driven by immigration. Not native Americans having a postive birth rate.

No difference, still US population growth.

 

[Concerned American]

ALL that increase is driven by immigration. Not native Americans having a postive birth rate.

I see that the birth rate has shown a downward trend since at least 1960 but I cannot agree that it substantiates the overblown concern. Just the ebb and flow of human development and migration.

 

[Correll]

No difference, still US population growth.

LOL. Don't be silly. Of course it is a difference.

 

[Correll]

I am open to your citation of any definitive source to prove your contention.

Immigration accounted for all U.S. population growth in 2022-23, first time since 1850

The U.S. immigrant population grew by 1.6 million people while birth rates dropped, though the share of those who are foreign-born is slightly below the share in 1890.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

LOL. Don't be silly. Of course it is a difference.

How, is still population growth in the US. It has nothing to do with marriage or birthrate.

 

[Correll]

How, is still population growth in the US. It has nothing to do with marriage or birthrate.

Well, for one, all the people that wanted to find mates, adn failed, and thus failed to have children,


still failed to have the families they wanted, despite the immigration that kept the "macro numbers" looking "good".

 

[Zincwarrior]

Well, for one, all the people that wanted to find mates, adn failed, and thus failed to have children,


still failed to have the families they wanted, despite the immigration that kept the "macro numbers" looking "good".

birth rate is not related to marriage rate.

 

[Concerned American]

Immigration accounted for all U.S. population growth in 2022-23, first time since 1850

The U.S. immigrant population grew by 1.6 million people while birth rates dropped, though the share of those who are foreign-born is slightly below the share in 1890.

www.nbcnews.com

I see that the birth rate has shown a downward trend since at least 1960 but I cannot agree that it substantiates the overblown concern. Just the ebb and flow of human development and migration. Another point not considered is the increased availability of birth control in first world countries.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I see that the birth rate has shown a downward trend since at least 1960 but I cannot agree that it substantiates the overblown concern. Just the ebb and flow of human development and migration.

It could go to zero, and we could fix it with immigration. Again, its wrong thinking. AI and robots are replacing people now.

 

[Correll]

birth rate is not related to marriage rate.

People who want families want to get married adn have families.


We don't need to reinvent the wheel everytime we go to buy a car.


Time to stop playing stupid games and fix this culture.

 

[Correll]

I see that the birth rate has shown a downward trend since at least 1960 but I cannot agree that it substantiates the overblown concern. Just the ebb and flow of human development and migration. Another point not considered is the increased availability of birth control in first world countries.

The population is crashing. People are missing out on vast amounts of meaning in their lives. Women are failing to have families. Men are lonely. Divorces are ruining the childhoods of millions of children.

These are real issues that we need to address. Importing replacements from shitty third world countries, will not make up for any of this.

 

[Zincwarrior]

People who want families want to get married adn have families.


We don't need to reinvent the wheel everytime we go to buy a car.


Time to stop playing stupid games and fix this culture.

Culture's fine. you don't need to be married to have children. You don't have to have children to be married.

 

[Correll]

Culture's fine. you don't need to be married to have children. You don't have to have children to be married.

The culture is fucked. The people are suffering from that.

You probably know people that wanted families and children adn failed to have them because of various issues, is that not true?

 

[initforme]

The population is crashing. People are missing out on vast amounts of meaning in their lives. Women are failing to have families. Men are lonely. Divorces are ruining the childhoods of millions of children.

These are real issues that we need to address. Importing replacements from shitty third world countries, will not make up for any of this.

So are you going to eliminate divorce and mandate all young americans must get married and have kids? The prices of things aren't coming down. Heck it's going to cost more to buy a vehicle in the next coming months. Getting $200 more a paycheck isn't going to do much of anything and isn't going to spur on people to ho out and have families. A man who wants to get married is free to get married. More and more women are becoming independent and holding off on marriage. They are focusing on other things. This is not changing soon. Divorces are still.popular. if a man has trouble finding a wife that's on him.

 

[initforme]

There are low wages, across the board. So when the jobs come back now people will cry that higher wages across the board creates inflation. Wages have been low for decades.

 

[Correll]

So are you going to eliminate divorce and mandate all young americans must get married and have kids? .....

Did I say ANYTHING about "eliminating divorce" or "mandating all young americans" to get married?


YES OR NO.