America Was Built on Protective Tariffs

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Of this, there is no dispute.

Alexander Hamilton was the architect, and the Founders deliberately put tariffs in the Constitution.

Abraham Lincoln favored strong tariffs.



Hamilton argued that despite an initial "increase of price" caused by regulations that control foreign competition, once a "domestic manufacture has attained to perfection... it invariably becomes cheaper".

In this report, Hamilton also proposed export bans on major raw materials, tariff reductions on industrial inputs, pricing and patenting of inventions, regulation of product standards and development of financial and transportation infrastructure. The U.S. Congress adopted the tariffs but refused to grant subsidies to manufactures. Hamilton shaped the pattern of American economic policy until the end of World War II, and his program created the conditions for rapid industrial development.

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In the 19th century, statesmen such as Senator Henry Clay continued Hamilton's themes within the Whig Party under the name "American System" which consisted of protecting industries and developing infrastructure in explicit opposition to the "British system" of free trade.

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Lincoln was a member of the protectionist Whig Party and a supporter of Henry Clay. In 1847, he declared: "Give us a protective tariff, and we shall have the greatest nation on earth". He implemented a 44-percent tariff during the Civil War—in part to pay for railroad subsidies and for the war effort, and to protect favored industries. Tariffs remained at this level even after the war, so that the North's victory in the Civil War allowed the U.S. to remain one of the largest users of tariff protection for industry.

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According to economist Ha-Joon Chang, the protectionist period thus corresponded to the golden age of American industry, when US economic performance outstripped that of the rest of the world. They pursued an interventionist, protectionist policy to promote and protect their industries through tariffs. This would have enabled the United States to enjoy the fastest economic growth in the world throughout the 19th century, right up to the 1920s.

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It was only after WW II that we threw away the 'American System' and adopted the 'British System' of free trade (look what it did for them!).

The reason, to rebuild Europe and Japan, and keep them from turning Communist.

That is 80 years ago. Time to revert to the 'American System'.

America First!
 

America Was Built on Protective Tariffs​


Tariffs are like this:
  • Strong tariffs are a sure sign of a strong country.
  • Tariffs are all about /leverage/. When you have the upper hand in a deal, you have leverage. Trump recognized that the USA holds the cards and really has countries like China and the EU over a barrel. Problem for the world is that everyone wants to sell to the USA because we are the A#1 market.
    • For a long time, we were willing to help developing countries and there was an interest in moving manufacturing out of the country for cheap labor, and in the process, we accepted a very slanted 90/10 trade deal where we not only gave away all of our manufacturing to others, but we agreed to allowing them to cut us out of selling to them our own stuff to their benefit.
As a result, the USA now suffers a trade deficit of over 130 billion dollars.
 
Yes, the US used tariffs to protect certain industries, not blanket tariffs. on every country in the world.
Except............Russia and N.Korea?
And oil?
 
It was only after WW II that we threw away the 'American System' and adopted the 'British System' of free trade (look what it did for them!).

The reason, to rebuild Europe and Japan, and keep them from turning Communist.

That is 80 years ago. Time to revert to the 'American System'.

America First!
Fair enough. Time to sell and buy more stuff to and from China.
 
Tariffs are like this:
  • Strong tariffs are a sure sign of a strong country.
  • Tariffs are all about /leverage/. When you have the upper hand in a deal, you have leverage. Trump recognized that the USA holds the cards and really has countries like China and the EU over a barrel. Problem for the world is that everyone wants to sell to the USA because we are the A#1 market.
    • For a long time, we were willing to help developing countries and there was an interest in moving manufacturing out of the country for cheap labor, and in the process, we accepted a very slanted 90/10 trade deal where we not only gave away all of our manufacturing to others, but we agreed to allowing them to cut us out of selling to them our own stuff to their benefit.
As a result, the USA now suffers a trade deficit of over 130 billion dollars.
The one world without borders crowd wants our America broke.
 
The democrats hate Ametica. They want to build a country in which the people worship the democrats.

Power, greed, corruption, tyranny, that is what democrats are
 
The democrats hate Ametica. They want to build a country in which the people worship the democrats.

Power, greed, corruption, tyranny, that is what democrats are
Republicans hate America.
They want to build a country that people worship an obese, orange moron.

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I guess the left hates Abe Lincoln now.

Other than that Crockett woman you have heard very little from blacks on the whole thing.

It seems that only crazy white women at raising a fuss these days.
 
Of this, there is no dispute.

Alexander Hamilton was the architect, and the Founders deliberately put tariffs in the Constitution.

Abraham Lincoln favored strong tariffs.


Hamilton argued that despite an initial "increase of price" caused by regulations that control foreign competition, once a "domestic manufacture has attained to perfection... it invariably becomes cheaper".
In this report, Hamilton also proposed export bans on major raw materials, tariff reductions on industrial inputs, pricing and patenting of inventions, regulation of product standards and development of financial and transportation infrastructure. The U.S. Congress adopted the tariffs but refused to grant subsidies to manufactures. Hamilton shaped the pattern of American economic policy until the end of World War II, and his program created the conditions for rapid industrial development.
...
In the 19th century, statesmen such as Senator Henry Clay continued Hamilton's themes within the Whig Party under the name "American System" which consisted of protecting industries and developing infrastructure in explicit opposition to the "British system" of free trade.
...
Lincoln was a member of the protectionist Whig Party and a supporter of Henry Clay. In 1847, he declared: "Give us a protective tariff, and we shall have the greatest nation on earth". He implemented a 44-percent tariff during the Civil War—in part to pay for railroad subsidies and for the war effort, and to protect favored industries. Tariffs remained at this level even after the war, so that the North's victory in the Civil War allowed the U.S. to remain one of the largest users of tariff protection for industry.
...
According to economist Ha-Joon Chang, the protectionist period thus corresponded to the golden age of American industry, when US economic performance outstripped that of the rest of the world. They pursued an interventionist, protectionist policy to promote and protect their industries through tariffs. This would have enabled the United States to enjoy the fastest economic growth in the world throughout the 19th century, right up to the 1920s.
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Not even close to being true. The OP like every MAGA on this board bitches with a loaf of bread under their arms. American wealth was created by the system of free trade created after WWII and that ushered in the greatest prosperity the human race has ever seen.

MAGA morons because they are perpetual victims are burning it to the ground. Friggin idiots.
 
Not even close to being true. The OP like every MAGA on this board bitches with a loaf of bread under their arms. American wealth was created by the system of free trade created after WWII and that ushered in the greatest prosperity the human race has ever seen.

MAGA morons because they are perpetual victims are burning it to the ground. Friggin idiots.
The US was an economic powerhouse before WWII.
 
It was only after WW II that we threw away the 'American System' and adopted the 'British System' of free trade (look what it did for them!).

The reason, to rebuild Europe and Japan, and keep them from turning Communist.

That is 80 years ago. Time to revert to the 'American System'.

America First!

Thisis not true.

The British system was designed an imperialistic system designed to make its colonies suppliers of raw materials. England had the industry, not India, Egypt or America. It also had “Imperial preference” which I,posed lower capital gains taxes on investments made within the Empire.

The “American System” was defensive. By imposing heavy tarrifs on imported manufactured products, the government effectively heavily subsidizing nascent American industry. Even so, nearly all the iron used to build the first American railroads was rolled in England.

Insustrial espionage and reverse engineering were an American speciality in those days.

In short, the “American system was intended to subsidize the development of an industrial economy. It was gradually abandoned as American industry emerged as the global low cost supplier.

After WWII, the dominance of American industry worked against high tarrifs.

The resulting free trade fed the American economy. It also raised the standard of living of every person on the planet.

If American heavy industry declined, it was because the big American producers stopped investing in heavy industry. We rested on our laurels.

high tarrifs in a developed economy is not going to guarantee that Wall Street is going to start investing in high capital, low margin commodity industries.
 
Tariffs are like this:
  • Strong tariffs are a sure sign of a strong country.
  • Tariffs are all about /leverage/. When you have the upper hand in a deal, you have leverage. Trump recognized that the USA holds the cards and really has countries like China and the EU over a barrel. Problem for the world is that everyone wants to sell to the USA because we are the A#1 market.
    • For a long time, we were willing to help developing countries and there was an interest in moving manufacturing out of the country for cheap labor, and in the process, we accepted a very slanted 90/10 trade deal where we not only gave away all of our manufacturing to others, but we agreed to allowing them to cut us out of selling to them our own stuff to their benefit.
As a result, the USA now suffers a trade deficit of over 130 billion dollars.

Ridiculous,on its face.

Tarrifs do not give leverage to anyone. They are a tax on consumers.

They raise the cost of doing business, especially in a global economy.
 
Of this, there is no dispute.

Alexander Hamilton was the architect, and the Founders deliberately put tariffs in the Constitution.

Abraham Lincoln favored strong tariffs.


Hamilton argued that despite an initial "increase of price" caused by regulations that control foreign competition, once a "domestic manufacture has attained to perfection... it invariably becomes cheaper".
In this report, Hamilton also proposed export bans on major raw materials, tariff reductions on industrial inputs, pricing and patenting of inventions, regulation of product standards and development of financial and transportation infrastructure. The U.S. Congress adopted the tariffs but refused to grant subsidies to manufactures. Hamilton shaped the pattern of American economic policy until the end of World War II, and his program created the conditions for rapid industrial development.
...
In the 19th century, statesmen such as Senator Henry Clay continued Hamilton's themes within the Whig Party under the name "American System" which consisted of protecting industries and developing infrastructure in explicit opposition to the "British system" of free trade.
...
Lincoln was a member of the protectionist Whig Party and a supporter of Henry Clay. In 1847, he declared: "Give us a protective tariff, and we shall have the greatest nation on earth". He implemented a 44-percent tariff during the Civil War—in part to pay for railroad subsidies and for the war effort, and to protect favored industries. Tariffs remained at this level even after the war, so that the North's victory in the Civil War allowed the U.S. to remain one of the largest users of tariff protection for industry.
...
According to economist Ha-Joon Chang, the protectionist period thus corresponded to the golden age of American industry, when US economic performance outstripped that of the rest of the world. They pursued an interventionist, protectionist policy to promote and protect their industries through tariffs. This would have enabled the United States to enjoy the fastest economic growth in the world throughout the 19th century, right up to the 1920s.
...


We’ve been built for quite some time, but if Trump continues to tear down the economy, we may have to rebuild.
 
Ridiculous,on its face.
You are ridiculous on your face.

Tarrifs do not give leverage to anyone.
No idiot, I said the leverage a country has supports using tariffs. Trump's tariffs have already brought oil down to record lows, and that is the opinion of the oil industry, not mine.

They are a tax on consumers.
No idiot, they are a tax on the manufacturer or supplier. If they in turn decide to try not to absorb it but to try to pass it on to the buyer, all you have to do is choose just not to buy it. Trump's tariffs are designed so that they are discouraged from doing this because inevitably, it just comes back to bite them in lost volume.

They raise the cost of doing business, especially in a global economy.
Fuck the global economy, the whole point of the tariff is to raise costs for the other guy! That way they will be encouraged to remove their tariffs on us or move manufacturing to the USA, moron.

Tell me--- just what part of the fact that the USA has already been getting charged out the ass with tariffs by everyone else for decades did you miss in grade school? Funny that none of these other countries thought levying tariffs on the USA was ever a bad idea.
 
Interesting!

JUST IN: UK Will Admit Trump’s Tariffs Are ‘Understandable’ In Major Trade Deal Breakthrough​


April 5, 2025
 

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