America is not the greatest country...

[Socialist]

My family lives here and it's not easy to get citizenship to other countries, none the less, resorting to personal bullshit is a way to ignore all of the facts.

OK, so sleeping on the couch in the basement is a powerful reason to stay put. Can't you reason with them to join you in escaping to a greener pasture?

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

 

[1stRambo]

I always hear people praising America for being "the best country in the world" and lots of other bullshit, time to look at some facts:

Healthcare:
The United states is, essentially, the only industrialized country without universal healthcare..
The US "spends" about this much on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results (It's approaching 10k now..)

Millions lack insurance, drugs are expensive as hell, people's lives are ruined if they get cancer, and don't have fancy for profit insurance.
The united states lacks in many areas regarding healthcare:

Let's look at life expectancy:
We rank 34: Global Health Observatory Data Repository
(Cuba is above us) yet, we still spend a MASSIVE amount on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results, as said above.

Education:
The united states education system is underfunded, teachers are underpaid, and a host of other problems are present... especially when it comes to the rising cost of higher education and the lack of access to cheap, affordable higher education. The united states government needs to directly support higher education like many other countries, not simply hand out loans and grants... Obama's community college idea is a great start.
College tuition in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

We are, by no measure, #1 at education results, but we are #1 in student debt..

Military:
If there's one thing the united states is #1 at, it's the military. I fail to see how this an achievement when millions lack healthcare, when the infrastructure is falling apart, when child poverty is on the rise, when veterans are homeless by the thousands, but yeah, let's look at the reality:
This is all that needs to be said.. if a nation wants to focus more on funding new weapon research projects and imperialist ventures then giving healthcare to its own citizens, there is a problem.

Corporate profits:
It's no surprise that corporate profits are at an all time high in the united states, and they are rising, I fail to see how this is a good thing when wages are stagnant, with a shrinking middle class, with millions being thrown into poverty.. Then again, the corporations love the government and the government loves the corporations..
Corporate Profits After Tax without IVA and CCAdj - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Wages:

Wages in the united states have been stagnant for decades, and compared to the rising cost of living and productivity, are not rising like they should..

Now, we come to a horrifying fact to relate to this.. affording a two bedroom rental unit..

Overworked America 12 Charts That Will Make Your Blood Boil Mother Jones - Must see.

Homelessness:
Global Homelessness Statistics - Homeless World Cup
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
Time to piss some people off:
"Well, there is one more way in which Cuba differs from most other poor countries in the world—the tiny island nation has virtually no homeless people. There are many reasons for that accomplishment. First, although housing is not free in Cuba, the government does take steps to keep the cost of housing low. That leads to a high rate of homeownership—around 85%. By way of comparison, the Census Bureau says the rate of homeownership in the United States was 66.9% in 2010."

Paid vacation:
Surprise! America is one of a few countries that does not guarantee paid vacation to workers...

"Nearly a quarter of the American private-sector workforce, some 26 million workers, doesn’t get paid time off, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — compared with less than one-fifth in the 1990s.The United States is the only advanced economy that doesn’t guarantee paid vacation and one of only 13 countries in the world not to do so, according to the World Policy Analysis Center at the University of California Los Angeles."
"In this regard, the United States falls in line with India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, and a handful of island nations that don’t require employers to offer workers paid time off. France, on the other hand, mandates 30 paid vacation days a year for all workers; Scandinavian countries offer 25. US citizens in Puerto Rico get three weeks off a year.

Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, and Sweden even require employers to pay vacationing workers extra to help with expenses."

Maternity leave:
Many on the right wing consistently talk about "family values" I'd call letting a mother spend time with her child for long periods of time while not having to worry about not getting her wages a family value, not trying to restrict gay marriage or end abortion...

Prison/income inequality/well being/etc..

I have so much more to add, but I think this is enough.. Time to realize america needs to become more "progressive"

Yo, Socialist, if you love another Country more, why don`t you pack your crap up and haul ass?
Look at the POPULATION in all of those Countries?
I rest my case!!!

"GTP"

It's not easy to get citizenship, plus, I'd like to see this country improve.

The moment people like you leave for your version of paradise it would improve.

Yeah, denmark/finland/norway/etc are horrid places, aren't they? Oh, if everyone associating with the left wing left america, say goodbye to worker rights, women's rights, etc, etc..

Yo, you are a lost soul!!!

"GTP"

 

[MarathonMike]

Communist In Chief is pretty accurate considering he used every Political trick in the book to usher in Socialized medicine. That during the worst economic crisis in 80 years. How many times did we hear the phrase "Obama is now doing a hard pivot to jobs" during that time? What moron would be doing anything BUT focusing on jobs during a Depression?

 

[HenryBHough]

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

Sock puppets are alive?

 

[1stRambo]

My family lives here and it's not easy to get citizenship to other countries, none the less, resorting to personal bullshit is a way to ignore all of the facts.

OK, so sleeping on the couch in the basement is a powerful reason to stay put. Can't you reason with them to join you in escaping to a greener pasture?

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

Yo, I`ll say it again, you are a lost soul!!!

"GTP"

 

[Socialist]

Communist In Chief is pretty accurate considering he used every Political trick in the book to usher in Socialized medicine. That during the worst economic crisis in 80 years. How many times did we hear the phrase "Obama is now doing a hard pivot to jobs" during that time? What moron would be doing anything BUT focusing on jobs during a Depression?

"Communist in chief" You clearly don't know anything about communism or actual communists who have lead countries, so let's ignore your idiocy. Socialized medicine? Oh please, that's not a bad thing, and obamacare goes through private sectors, it's not socialized at all, we need actual universal healthcare, it's cheaper, and works better for everyone, there's a reason america has poor results, millions without healthcare.. privatized for profit medicine and healthcare.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I always hear people praising America for being "the best country in the world" and lots of other bullshit, time to look at some facts:

Healthcare:
The United states is, essentially, the only industrialized country without universal healthcare..
The US "spends" about this much on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results (It's approaching 10k now..)

Millions lack insurance, drugs are expensive as hell, people's lives are ruined if they get cancer, and don't have fancy for profit insurance.
The united states lacks in many areas regarding healthcare:

Let's look at life expectancy:
We rank 34: Global Health Observatory Data Repository
(Cuba is above us) yet, we still spend a MASSIVE amount on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results, as said above.

Education:
The united states education system is underfunded, teachers are underpaid, and a host of other problems are present... especially when it comes to the rising cost of higher education and the lack of access to cheap, affordable higher education. The united states government needs to directly support higher education like many other countries, not simply hand out loans and grants... Obama's community college idea is a great start.
College tuition in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

We are, by no measure, #1 at education results, but we are #1 in student debt..

Military:
If there's one thing the united states is #1 at, it's the military. I fail to see how this an achievement when millions lack healthcare, when the infrastructure is falling apart, when child poverty is on the rise, when veterans are homeless by the thousands, but yeah, let's look at the reality:
This is all that needs to be said.. if a nation wants to focus more on funding new weapon research projects and imperialist ventures then giving healthcare to its own citizens, there is a problem.

Corporate profits:
It's no surprise that corporate profits are at an all time high in the united states, and they are rising, I fail to see how this is a good thing when wages are stagnant, with a shrinking middle class, with millions being thrown into poverty.. Then again, the corporations love the government and the government loves the corporations..
Corporate Profits After Tax without IVA and CCAdj - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Wages:

Wages in the united states have been stagnant for decades, and compared to the rising cost of living and productivity, are not rising like they should..

Now, we come to a horrifying fact to relate to this.. affording a two bedroom rental unit..

Overworked America 12 Charts That Will Make Your Blood Boil Mother Jones - Must see.

Homelessness:
Global Homelessness Statistics - Homeless World Cup
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
Time to piss some people off:
"Well, there is one more way in which Cuba differs from most other poor countries in the world—the tiny island nation has virtually no homeless people. There are many reasons for that accomplishment. First, although housing is not free in Cuba, the government does take steps to keep the cost of housing low. That leads to a high rate of homeownership—around 85%. By way of comparison, the Census Bureau says the rate of homeownership in the United States was 66.9% in 2010."

Paid vacation:
Surprise! America is one of a few countries that does not guarantee paid vacation to workers...

"Nearly a quarter of the American private-sector workforce, some 26 million workers, doesn’t get paid time off, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — compared with less than one-fifth in the 1990s.The United States is the only advanced economy that doesn’t guarantee paid vacation and one of only 13 countries in the world not to do so, according to the World Policy Analysis Center at the University of California Los Angeles."
"In this regard, the United States falls in line with India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, and a handful of island nations that don’t require employers to offer workers paid time off. France, on the other hand, mandates 30 paid vacation days a year for all workers; Scandinavian countries offer 25. US citizens in Puerto Rico get three weeks off a year.

Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, and Sweden even require employers to pay vacationing workers extra to help with expenses."

Maternity leave:
Many on the right wing consistently talk about "family values" I'd call letting a mother spend time with her child for long periods of time while not having to worry about not getting her wages a family value, not trying to restrict gay marriage or end abortion...

Prison/income inequality/well being/etc..

I have so much more to add, but I think this is enough.. Time to realize america needs to become more "progressive"

Yo, Socialist, if you love another Country more, why don`t you pack your crap up and haul ass?
Look at the POPULATION in all of those Countries?
I rest my case!!!

"GTP"

It's not easy to get citizenship, plus, I'd like to see this country improve.

The moment people like you leave for your version of paradise it would improve.

Yeah, denmark/finland/norway/etc are horrid places, aren't they? Oh, if everyone associating with the left wing left america, say goodbye to worker rights, women's rights, etc, etc..

Dude, pack up and go. Head on out there are obviously places you are better suited for and the tax payers are willing to pay your way it just isn't happening here. Here you have a right to speech, religion, a gun and an opportunity. Nothing else. If you need more than that you were probably born in the wrong place. So in that case I am willing to let you leave. It would be better for both of us.

 

[Socialist]

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

Sock puppets are alive?

I've noticed most rwers on this site can't adequately address facts and immediately resort to personal attacks.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Communist In Chief is pretty accurate considering he used every Political trick in the book to usher in Socialized medicine. That during the worst economic crisis in 80 years. How many times did we hear the phrase "Obama is now doing a hard pivot to jobs" during that time? What moron would be doing anything BUT focusing on jobs during a Depression?

"Communist in chief" You clearly don't know anything about communism or actual communists who have lead countries, so let's ignore your idiocy. Socialized medicine? Oh please, that's not a bad thing, and obamacare goes through private sectors, it's not socialized at all, we need actual universal healthcare, it's cheaper, and works better for everyone, there's a reason america has poor results, millions without healthcare.. privatized for profit medicine and healthcare.

Is there also a reason everyone that can leaves those countries and comes here for healthcare?

 

[HenryBHough]

I've noticed most rwers on this site can't adequately address facts and immediately resort to personal attacks.

Was the question too hard?

 

[Socialist]

I always hear people praising America for being "the best country in the world" and lots of other bullshit, time to look at some facts:

Healthcare:
The United states is, essentially, the only industrialized country without universal healthcare..
The US "spends" about this much on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results (It's approaching 10k now..)

Millions lack insurance, drugs are expensive as hell, people's lives are ruined if they get cancer, and don't have fancy for profit insurance.
The united states lacks in many areas regarding healthcare:

Let's look at life expectancy:
We rank 34: Global Health Observatory Data Repository
(Cuba is above us) yet, we still spend a MASSIVE amount on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results, as said above.

Education:
The united states education system is underfunded, teachers are underpaid, and a host of other problems are present... especially when it comes to the rising cost of higher education and the lack of access to cheap, affordable higher education. The united states government needs to directly support higher education like many other countries, not simply hand out loans and grants... Obama's community college idea is a great start.
College tuition in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

We are, by no measure, #1 at education results, but we are #1 in student debt..

Military:
If there's one thing the united states is #1 at, it's the military. I fail to see how this an achievement when millions lack healthcare, when the infrastructure is falling apart, when child poverty is on the rise, when veterans are homeless by the thousands, but yeah, let's look at the reality:
This is all that needs to be said.. if a nation wants to focus more on funding new weapon research projects and imperialist ventures then giving healthcare to its own citizens, there is a problem.

Corporate profits:
It's no surprise that corporate profits are at an all time high in the united states, and they are rising, I fail to see how this is a good thing when wages are stagnant, with a shrinking middle class, with millions being thrown into poverty.. Then again, the corporations love the government and the government loves the corporations..
Corporate Profits After Tax without IVA and CCAdj - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Wages:

Wages in the united states have been stagnant for decades, and compared to the rising cost of living and productivity, are not rising like they should..

Now, we come to a horrifying fact to relate to this.. affording a two bedroom rental unit..

Overworked America 12 Charts That Will Make Your Blood Boil Mother Jones - Must see.

Homelessness:
Global Homelessness Statistics - Homeless World Cup
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
Time to piss some people off:
"Well, there is one more way in which Cuba differs from most other poor countries in the world—the tiny island nation has virtually no homeless people. There are many reasons for that accomplishment. First, although housing is not free in Cuba, the government does take steps to keep the cost of housing low. That leads to a high rate of homeownership—around 85%. By way of comparison, the Census Bureau says the rate of homeownership in the United States was 66.9% in 2010."

Paid vacation:
Surprise! America is one of a few countries that does not guarantee paid vacation to workers...

"Nearly a quarter of the American private-sector workforce, some 26 million workers, doesn’t get paid time off, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — compared with less than one-fifth in the 1990s.The United States is the only advanced economy that doesn’t guarantee paid vacation and one of only 13 countries in the world not to do so, according to the World Policy Analysis Center at the University of California Los Angeles."
"In this regard, the United States falls in line with India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, and a handful of island nations that don’t require employers to offer workers paid time off. France, on the other hand, mandates 30 paid vacation days a year for all workers; Scandinavian countries offer 25. US citizens in Puerto Rico get three weeks off a year.

Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, and Sweden even require employers to pay vacationing workers extra to help with expenses."

Maternity leave:
Many on the right wing consistently talk about "family values" I'd call letting a mother spend time with her child for long periods of time while not having to worry about not getting her wages a family value, not trying to restrict gay marriage or end abortion...

Prison/income inequality/well being/etc..

I have so much more to add, but I think this is enough.. Time to realize america needs to become more "progressive"

Yo, Socialist, if you love another Country more, why don`t you pack your crap up and haul ass?
Look at the POPULATION in all of those Countries?
I rest my case!!!

"GTP"

It's not easy to get citizenship, plus, I'd like to see this country improve.

The moment people like you leave for your version of paradise it would improve.

Yeah, denmark/finland/norway/etc are horrid places, aren't they? Oh, if everyone associating with the left wing left america, say goodbye to worker rights, women's rights, etc, etc..

Dude, pack up and go. Head on out there are obviously places you are better suited for and the tax payers are willing to pay your way it just isn't happening here. Here you have a right to speech, religion, a gun and an opportunity. Nothing else. If you need more than that you were probably born in the wrong place. So in that case I am willing to let you leave. It would be better for both of us.

"Pack up and go" I've already stated why I won't/can't, so going for my personal life is meaingless, what, are people not allowed to critisize their own countries? Right to speech? Every other industrialized country has this, same with everything else, and other countries have greater social mobility, if that's what you mean by opportunities.

 

[Socialist]

Communist In Chief is pretty accurate considering he used every Political trick in the book to usher in Socialized medicine. That during the worst economic crisis in 80 years. How many times did we hear the phrase "Obama is now doing a hard pivot to jobs" during that time? What moron would be doing anything BUT focusing on jobs during a Depression?

"Communist in chief" You clearly don't know anything about communism or actual communists who have lead countries, so let's ignore your idiocy. Socialized medicine? Oh please, that's not a bad thing, and obamacare goes through private sectors, it's not socialized at all, we need actual universal healthcare, it's cheaper, and works better for everyone, there's a reason america has poor results, millions without healthcare.. privatized for profit medicine and healthcare.

Is there also a reason everyone that can leaves those countries and comes here for healthcare?

Utter horseshit, and you know it, give me some data to back this up. I know of cuban citizens who went back to cuba for healthcare because they couldn't afford it in America, LOL.

 

[HenryBHough]

"Pack up and go" I've already stated why I won't/can't, so going for my personal life is meaingless, what, are people not allowed to critisize their own countries? Right to speech? Every other industrialized country has this, same with everything else, and other countries have greater social mobility, if that's what you mean by opportunities.

I buy the "won't" part. The rest is pure bullshit.

 

[HenryBHough]

Utter horseshit, and you know it, give me some data to back this up. I know of cuban citizens who went back to cuba for healthcare because they couldn't afford it in America, LOL.

And they wouldn't let you go with them......yeah, that would explain some of the butthurt.

 

[williepete]

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

So enlighten us. You've been asked several times what you do for a living. Tell us how you are able to feed yourself in such an oppressive society.

Where'd you go to school? What did you major in? What is your profession?

Do tell.

 

[Socialist]

"Pack up and go" I've already stated why I won't/can't, so going for my personal life is meaingless, what, are people not allowed to critisize their own countries? Right to speech? Every other industrialized country has this, same with everything else, and other countries have greater social mobility, if that's what you mean by opportunities.

I buy the "won't" part. The rest is pure bullshit.

I advise you to back your statements, all of mine have a basis in reality.

 

[1stRambo]

Communist In Chief is pretty accurate considering he used every Political trick in the book to usher in Socialized medicine. That during the worst economic crisis in 80 years. How many times did we hear the phrase "Obama is now doing a hard pivot to jobs" during that time? What moron would be doing anything BUT focusing on jobs during a Depression?

"Communist in chief" You clearly don't know anything about communism or actual communists who have lead countries, so let's ignore your idiocy. Socialized medicine? Oh please, that's not a bad thing, and obamacare goes through private sectors, it's not socialized at all, we need actual universal healthcare, it's cheaper, and works better for everyone, there's a reason america has poor results, millions without healthcare.. privatized for profit medicine and healthcare.

Yo, you`re right, millions of illegals waiting in the wing for working folks to pay their way and yours fool!

"GTP"

 

[Socialist]

You know nothing about my life or where I live, keep resorting to personal attacks.

So enlighten us. You've been asked several times what you do for a living. Tell us how you are able to feed yourself in such an oppressive society.

Where'd you go to school? What did you major in? What is your profession?

Do tell.

Yet it continues, the glorious circlejerk, as if my personal life has anything to do with facts about a country. I won't feed into it. "Oppressive society" When did I say this?

 

[HenryBHough]

I advise you to back your statements, all of mine have a basis in reality.

Your own words crucify you.

 

[williepete]

So I take it you're not proud of your accomplishments.

We understand.