America Doesn't Have The Moral Justification To Enter Into the Israel/Iran War!

[Rigby5]

The Hebrews came about 3,000 years ago, and they were never obliterated.

There have always been Jewish descent from Abraham in Israel.

Wrong.
The Arabs were there first.
The Canaanites, Akkadians, Chaldean, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc.

The Hebrew invaded the Land of Canaan about 3000 years ago, but were defeated by the Assyrians after less than 200 years.
Thats it.

The Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Seleucids, and Romans also beat them.
They only ruled for 200 years.
And they were awful rulers.
After invading Jericho, they massacred all the Canaanite women and children.

 

[Rigby5]

The Hebrews came about 3,000 years ago, and they were never obliterated.

There have always been Jewish descent from Abraham in Israel.

There was only an Israel for 200 years.
It all fake Bible myths written by the Byzantine Romans from 200 AD to 400 AD.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Palestinians can not stop the killing in retribution because the Israelis are illegally staving them, imprisoning them, exiling them, murdering them, etc., in order to steal their homes without paying.
There has to be much more killing in order to get the Israelis to stop.

Poor Arabs, they should move back to Arabia.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There was only an Israel for 200 years.
It all fake Bible myths written by the Byzantine Romans from 200 AD to 400 AD.

Sounds like 252 more years than the 0 years there was a Palestine.

 

[irosie91]

The US created the UN in 1945 expressly to illegally recognize Israel.
Israel is Polish and Russians of Turkic descent, and do not belong in the Mideast.
And they especially do not belong in a Palestine owned legally by the Palestinians.

rigs----you got it bad

 

[irosie91]

The US created the UN in 1945 expressly to illegally recognize Israel.
Israel is Polish and Russians of Turkic descent, and do not belong in the Mideast.
And they especially do not belong in a Palestine owned legally by the Palestinians.

the whole purpose in the creation of the UN was to CRIMINALLY create Israel----the ZIONISTS
did it <<<< excellent example of islamo nazi CREDO

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The UN's actions in creating the state of Israel was legitimate.

The Arabs have been trying to genocide the Jews ever since.

 

[EMH]

The UN's actions in creating the state of Israel was legitimate.

The Arabs have been trying to genocide the Jews ever since.

LOL!!!

Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/CIA-Analysis-1967-War.pdf

Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first.) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.






Mossad did JFK for all of the above...

Why was LBJ expecting Israel to attack and lie (hate hoax) about it?

Our 'nam Army and Marine vets tell us they were promised new weapons that never arrived. Any idea who STOLE THEM???

 

[shimon]

the whole purpose in the creation of the UN was to CRIMINALLY create Israel----the ZIONISTS
did it <<<< excellent example of islamo nazi CREDO

You do sarcasm well Irosie…lol… but wasn’t it the Leaque of Nations that got the ball rolling even though they still managed to give the Arab's around 96 per cent or more when they split up the Ottoman Empire after it desintegrated… The “ Zionists” ended up getting a pittance and even that was begrudged and didn’t the Arab states try to take that as well… Talk about greedy and vindictive…

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Did the Arabs try to take away the 'pittance' granted to the Jews?

Why, yes, the turbans did try and did try and did try and always fail and then yell about 'genocide' after pulling abominable crimes like October 7.

 

[justoffal]

Why don't you compose your thoughts before posting?

1. Is it moral for the US to oppose Iran producing nuclear weapons?
2. If yes, how should the US go about doing this?
3. If negotiation fails, should the US take direct action against Iran?
4. If yes, what action should that include?

If you can't or won't answer these questions, your opinions on this subject are worthless.

Iran has to worry about Saudi Arabia....not Israel.

 

[justoffal]

Okay, let me take a stab at it.

The US had a treaty with Iran and our own intel agencies determined Iran is not trying to build a bomb.

If the US was serious about stopping Iran from building a bomb, we never should have scrapped JCPOA, which was keeping the Iranians from building a bomb and they gave up 97% of their fissionable materials.

No, the US shouldn't take direct action, and we need to tell the Zionists to knock it the **** off.

If the goal is "regime change", then that doesn't solve the problem. If the Ayatollahs are replaced by their military or some revolutionary group, do you think they are going to start loving the "Great Satan"?

People often underestimate the staying power of
1500 years of ingrained cultural bias. It cannot be swept away by transitory politics or spur of the moment regime change.

 

[Dragonlady]

People often underestimate the staying power of
1500 years of ingrained cultural bias. It cannot be swept away by transitory politics or spur of the moment regime change.

Except it’s not “1500 years of cultural bias”. Iran didn’t hate the USA until the CIA installed the Shah as their ruler.

The brutality of his 30 year dictatorship is what turned Iran against the USA.

 

[JoeB131]

Except it’s not “1500 years of cultural bias”. Iran didn’t hate the USA until the CIA installed the Shah as their ruler.

The brutality of his 30 year dictatorship is what turned Iran against the USA.

Not just 30 years of the Shah, but 45 years of punishing them for picking a form of government we didn't like.

 

[Delldude]

Not just 30 years of the Shah, but 45 years of punishing them for picking a form of government we didn't like.

You forgot to mention British and Russian influence before we got there.

 

[JoeB131]

You forgot to mention British and Russian influence before we got there.

Well, no, not really.

Here was the thing: even during the "Great Game", Iran enjoyed a certain level of independence. It wasn't colonized like India or the Caucasus.

During WWII, the Allies deposed the Shah's father for being too pro-Axis, but kept his son on the throne.

It was when the CIA and BP decided that after the people deposed the Shah, they were going to put him right back on that throne and screw what the people want, that we earned the enmity of the Iranian people.

 

[Delldude]

BP

British Petroleum

 

[JoeB131]

British Petroleum

Yes, BP had it's fingerprints all over the 1953 coup.

But the CIA did the dirty work.

 

[Delldude]

Yes, BP had it's fingerprints all over the 1953 coup.

But the CIA did the dirty work.

Yet BP was involved at the turn of the century.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Did the Arabs try to take away the 'pittance' granted to the Jews?

Why, yes, the turbans did try and did try and did try and always fail and then yell about 'genocide' after pulling abominable crimes like October 7.

Arabs don't usually wear turbans.