America and Europe...

[ForeverYoung436]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

Oh yeah, Tinmore is from Scandinavia, yet he has the hypocricy (sp?) to call Israelis foreigners. This despite the fact that all of my cousins were born in Israel.

 

[SeaGal]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

Re-read your next to last sentence and you may have at least a partial answer to your own question.

 

[Moonglow]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

Europeans are anti-Jew..

 

[montelatici]

What in the devil does Judeo-Christian mean? It is a Jew invented construct to make it appear that the people who fundamentally reject the core principle of Christianity are somehow similar in any way to Christians.

 

[Lipush]

What in the devil does Judeo-Christian mean? It is a Jew invented construct to make it appear that the people who fundamentally reject the core principle of Christianity are somehow similar in any way to Christians.

Jesus Christ was a Jew.

 

[rylah]

What in the devil does Judeo-Christian mean? It is a Jew invented construct to make it appear that the people who fundamentally reject the core principle of Christianity are somehow similar in any way to Christians.

"Judeo-Christian" was first used by an Irish reverend named Alexander McCaul- a Christian missionary to the Jews.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

What in the devil does Judeo-Christian mean? It is a Jew invented construct to make it appear that the people who fundamentally reject the core principle of Christianity are somehow similar in any way to Christians.

Three-quarters of the Christian Bible is our Tanach (Hebrew bible). Jesus and his disciples were Jewish. The roots of the Christian faith are in Judaism. The theologies are quite different though.

Europe, however, is becoming increasingly atheistic and/or secular. I think that's why they align with the Palestinians more.

 

[montelatici]

Hebrews 8:13

"When he speaks of a “new” covenant, he declares the first one obsolete. And what has become obsolete and has grown old is close to disappearing."

The Europeans side with the Palestinians because they are being killed and oppressed by a military occupation force. It has nothing to do with religion.

 

[Correll]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

The Europeans are cowed by the threat of violence in their cities.

 

[Hollie]

Hebrews 8:13

"When he speaks of a “new” covenant, he declares the first one obsolete. And what has become obsolete and has grown old is close to disappearing."

The Europeans side with the Palestinians because they are being killed and oppressed by a military occupation force. It has nothing to do with religion.

Actually, your volunteering the Europeans as siding with Islamic terrorists is a farce. You're a bit befuddled about Islamic terrorism having everything to do with religion. The religious perspectives pulsing away is precisely the engine that drives Islamic terrorism.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It was very telling that a rabbi, minister and bishop made benedictions at the Inauguration of President Trump, but no imam. Trump pledged to eradicate Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. The rabbi spoke of Jerusalem, which hopefully will remain in Jewish and Christian hands, but not those of the Muslims. This ceremony was just one more indication of the Judeo-Christian values that bind America and Israel together.

 

[Eloy]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

American politicians do uncritically support Israel principally because of the Jewish Lobby.

You mention a Judeo-Christian tradition that you suppose is present in the USA and Europe but this is not so. The type of Christianity in Europe is basically Catholic or Protestant. Catholic doctrine teaches that the Son of God, Jesus, was put to death at the demand of the Jews. The Jews rejected the Messiah and so forfeit salvation. Missing is the evangelical Biblicism that characterizes some Protestant non-conformist sects. So there is no particularly religious reason from tradition for Europeans to be pro-Israel or pro-Muslim.

Hollywood movies tend to be made by Jews and they have been, without exception, pro-Israel and especially anti-German and their Nazi Final Solution. So influential are the movies that the name "Holocaust" comes from an American miniseries from 1978 to refer to the Final Solution. Hollywood has had more of an influence in the USA than Europe.

There was goodwill from the Europeans toward Israel in the beginning when the Jews who survived the Final Solution in Europe were seen as an underdog against their Semitic Arab neighbors and the most important country of the European Union, Germany, has a guilt complex because of its history. More than anything, however, the European people have accepted that the occupation of the Palestinian people's land and the awful pulverizing of the defenseless people in Gaza is a David and Goliath contest. The underdog now is Palestine and the days of support for Israel have passed.

 

[montelatici]

It was very telling that a rabbi, minister and bishop made benedictions at the Inauguration of President Trump, but no imam. Trump pledged to eradicate Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. The rabbi spoke of Jerusalem, which hopefully will remain in Jewish and Christian hands, but not those of the Muslims. This ceremony was just one more indication of the Judeo-Christian values that bind America and Israel together.

There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian. It is a contradiction in terms. Christian means a follower of Jesus Christ. The second guy that spoke made it clear that Jews are not Christian when he he stated unequivocally that Christ is the Savior. You didn't get the irony, did you.

 

[member]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

The Europeans are cowed by the threat of violence in their cities.

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

The Europeans are cowed by the threat of violence in their cities.

"The Europeans are cowed by the threat of violence in their cities."

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We should (they should…Italy, Ireland, Latvia, Denmark, England, France….everybody)…the mass syrian exodus, political correctness, damage has been done - but .....draw up some plans and build a security wall like Israel has done…


It has kept those lunatic terrorists (hamass, ij, et al) pretty much at Bay………… good job.


Italy….. cara mia, che peccato! wake up.

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[Dogmaphobe]

Much of the resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe has been fueled by their need for oil, especially after the oil embargos of the 70s. Several initiatives were undertaken to draw Europe closer to the Arab world in order to grease the wheels for assuring the continuation of their oil supplies, and European media took on a pro-Arab point of view. After decades of relentlessly anti-Israel and anti-Semitic themes being normalized through the European press, creatures such as the revolting Eloy thing have grown up in a system entirely dominated by Jew hatred.

 

[Challenger]

Much of the resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe has been fueled by their need for oil, especially after the oil embargos of the 70s. Several initiatives were undertaken to draw Europe closer to the Arab world in order to grease the wheels for assuring the continuation of their oil supplies, and European media took on a pro-Arab point of view. After decades of relentlessly anti-Israel and anti-Semitic themes being normalized through the European press, creatures such as the revolting Eloy thing have grown up in a system entirely dominated by Jew hatred.

Complete drivel.

Europe gets most of it's energy requirements from Norway, Russia and the Caucasus (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan) region. OPEC countries supply around 40% of europe's oil, most of that comes from Libya and Nigeria. Saudi Arabia provides about 8% of Europe's crude oil. Supplier countries - Energy - European Commission

Europe's media tends to be "pro-Israel" if anything, it's rare to find anything in the media sympathetic to the Palestinians, although the recent Operation Protective Edge changed a lot of minds in Europe, over here 52% of people polled thought the Zionists used disproportionate force against Hamas, the big issue that changed minds in the UK was Zionist Isreal's approach to the peace process with 73% answering "agree" to the question, "Israel's standing in the world is being damaged by its current approach to the peace process." and of those 66% stated that their opinion of Jews had worsened as a result. British Attitudes Toward Jews & Israel | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Roudy]

What in the devil does Judeo-Christian mean? It is a Jew invented construct to make it appear that the people who fundamentally reject the core principle of Christianity are somehow similar in any way to Christians.

Well, that would be what an antisemite would tend to say, now wouldn't it?

The term Judeo-Christian groups Judaism and Christianity, either in reference to Christianity's derivation from Judaism or due to perceived parallels or commonalities shared between those two religions.

The concept of "Judeo-Christian values" in an ethical (rather than theological or liturgical) sense was used by George Orwellin 1939, and has become part of "American civil religion" since the 1940s.


History of the term
The term is used, as "Judæo Christian", at least as far back as in a letter from Alexander M'Caul dated October 17, 1821.[2]The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity.[3] The term is used similarly by Joseph Wolff in 1829, referring to a style of church that would keep with some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews.[4]

 

[Roudy]

Much of the resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe has been fueled by their need for oil, especially after the oil embargos of the 70s. Several initiatives were undertaken to draw Europe closer to the Arab world in order to grease the wheels for assuring the continuation of their oil supplies, and European media took on a pro-Arab point of view. After decades of relentlessly anti-Israel and anti-Semitic themes being normalized through the European press, creatures such as the revolting Eloy thing have grown up in a system entirely dominated by Jew hatred.

Also, the Muslim invasion of Europe hasn't helped either. They imported all their hatreds and barbarism with them.

 

[Roudy]

seem to have very different ways of looking at this conflict (I mean aside from Tinmore). Americans seem to side more with the Israelis, maybe because of our Judeo-Christian tradition or because of movies like Exodus with Paul Newman, while Europeans seem to take the Palestinians' side. This, despite the fact that Muslims have now overrun Europe and commit terrorism there. Eloy, how do you explain this phenomenon?

American politicians do uncritically support Israel principally because of the Jewish Lobby.

You mention a Judeo-Christian tradition that you suppose is present in the USA and Europe but this is not so. The type of Christianity in Europe is basically Catholic or Protestant. Catholic doctrine teaches that the Son of God, Jesus, was put to death at the demand of the Jews. The Jews rejected the Messiah and so forfeit salvation. Missing is the evangelical Biblicism that characterizes some Protestant non-conformist sects. So there is no particularly religious reason from tradition for Europeans to be pro-Israel or pro-Muslim.

Hollywood movies tend to be made by Jews and they have been, without exception, pro-Israel and especially anti-German and their Nazi Final Solution. So influential are the movies that the name "Holocaust" comes from an American miniseries from 1978 to refer to the Final Solution. Hollywood has had more of an influence in the USA than Europe.

There was goodwill from the Europeans toward Israel in the beginning when the Jews who survived the Final Solution in Europe were seen as an underdog against their Semitic Arab neighbors and the most important country of the European Union, Germany, has a guilt complex because of its history. More than anything, however, the European people have accepted that the occupation of the Palestinian people's land and the awful pulverizing of the defenseless people in Gaza is a David and Goliath contest. The underdog now is Palestine and the days of support for Israel have passed.

On the bright side, cheese shall be served for whiners like you at the US embassy in Jerusalem.