Amazing what the human race has accomplished

[irosie91]

irosie91 hey Google search says "The cuneiform script, created in Mesopotamia, present-day Iraq, ca. 3200 BC, was first. It is also the only writing system which can be traced to its earliest prehistoric origin"

oh----but that one is sorta sophisticated. I would consider decipherable
PICTOGRAPHS -----as writing too for my effort in deciding when HUMAN HISTORY
begins ----anything that could actually record history

Human history does not begin with the ability to write it down. Why would it? You are merely asking what the oldest examples of written language we have actually found are. of course, for such written records to exist, the discovered, written language would have taken some time to evolve from primitive symbols and to gain syntax and agreed meanings of words, etc. So you would still not have come very close to delineating "the first wri8tten language", even if you arbitrarily choose that standard for "the beginning of history".

Beginning of HUMAN---aka HOMO SAPIEN history. All human brains across the board
have the capacity to engage in language and writing and reading excluding those
that are damaged or malformed. That which I described refers to the SAPIEN---in
homosapien ----not the course of evolution <<< opinion

 

[HaShev]

As a species : we’re almost brand new at 250,000 yrs or so

If you just examine the last few centuries it’s utterly astounding!!
From mastering electricity to computers to jet rocket engines to discovering planets and stars on the far side of the Milky Way

Maybe time travel and visiting the stars might be beyond us but it’s amazing that we accomplished more in the last 200 yrs than the previous 200,000

It would be much more amazing if it wasn't for the silly stasists through the ages, holding us back. If it didn't take everyone 20+ years to catch up and prove me and others like minded right, where would we be if we just listened and believed in our visionaries?

 

[harmonica]

Quasar44
raping/torture/murder/genocide/wars/greed/physical defects/...torture special needs people/hate/etc etc

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Beginning of HUMAN---aka HOMO SAPIEN history. All human brains across the board
have the capacity to engage in language and writing and reading excluding thos

But you still haven't answered. Let me let you in on it: the point in time you are describing does not exist. The transition of our brains from no language to language was a continuous process over a long, long time.

 

[irosie91]

Beginning of HUMAN---aka HOMO SAPIEN history. All human brains across the board
have the capacity to engage in language and writing and reading excluding thos

But you still haven't answered. Let me let you in on it: the point in time you are describing does not exist. The transition of our brains from no language to language was a continuous process over a long, long time.

did I deny that transition------but that "LONG LONG TIME" idea actually is not
consistent with the REAL POTENTIAL of the human brain and even actual clinical
observation. Completely isolated infants-----in barbaric experiments of the past---
revealed that the babies DID develope a language -----one cannot HOLD THAT
BRAIN DOWN -----uhm---mostly the left Parieto--temperal thingamagig----it
BREAKS THRU. Long ago----some jerk decided to isolate twins at birth to see
WHAT LANGUAGE they would develope on their own. (he was not jailed---it
was medieval times. They did actually develope a kind of LANGUAGE----the poor
kids) Somewhere along the line---SAPIENS leaped forward into actual LANGUAGE

 

[Stryder50]

irosie91 hey Google search says "The cuneiform script, created in Mesopotamia, present-day Iraq, ca. 3200 BC, was first. It is also the only writing system which can be traced to its earliest prehistoric origin"

Cuneiform evolved out of a pictographic language of earlier usage. One of the interesting items recorded in some of the earliest cuneiform texts is the boast of an early Sumerian king on how he was so well educated and literate he could read the written text from the civilizations that predated the Deluge.

It's quite probable that humans had civilization prior to this current cycle, which looks to have waited out the last Ice Age to get a start, that within the past 12-15,000 years.

In fact, the early Sumer records claim their cities were but on the same sites as in use before the Deluge washed such away.

Some have seen where the dating used in the earliest cuneiform would suggest more closer to about 3,700 B.C. as when it was developed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Beginning of HUMAN---aka HOMO SAPIEN history. All human brains across the board
have the capacity to engage in language and writing and reading excluding thos

But you still haven't answered. Let me let you in on it: the point in time you are describing does not exist. The transition of our brains from no language to language was a continuous process over a long, long time.

did I deny that transition------but that "LONG LONG TIME" idea actually is not
consistent with the REAL POTENTIAL of the human brain and even actual clinical
observation. Completely isolated infants-----in barbaric experiments of the past---
revealed that the babies DID develope a language -----one cannot HOLD THAT
BRAIN DOWN -----uhm---mostly the left Parieto--temperal thingamagig----it
BREAKS THRU. Long ago----some jerk decided to isolate twins at birth to see
WHAT LANGUAGE they would develope on their own. (he was not jailed---it
was medieval times. They did actually develope a kind of LANGUAGE----the poor
kids) Somewhere along the line---SAPIENS leaped forward into actual LANGUAGE

Which took a long, long time. And this idea is consistent with every single bit of evidence we've ever collected. To the point in time that you are looking for simply does not exist there was no first human. There was no first language. There's no clearly delineated boundary between language and not language.

 

[Mark Richard]

Fort Fun Indiana I read once that the Inca people in Peru tied knots into some kind of rope to convey a message.

A written language may have possibly started from one group of people and got popularized by them and others followed their lead and possibly created their own style of letters and words.

The letters that we use here I think we're first demonstrated by the Egyptians and then after that the phoenicians. But the letters that we have are completely different than Chinese letters or Arabic letters.

 

[Mark Richard]

Fort Fun Indiana That's for sure.

 

[Quasar44]

Death Angel
Yes the Bible is great for many things but it’s 100 percent wrong in any science matter

 

[Quasar44]

Humans have been around 200-250,000 yrs

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Death Angel
Yes the Bible is great for many things but it’s 100 percent wrong in any science matter

Example

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Humans have been around 200-250,000 yrs

Maybe 400,000

 

[Quasar44]

Death Angel
Humans been around much longer than 6,000 yrs
The universe has been in existence 14.2 billion years

 

[Quasar44]

Earth is 4.5 billion yrs old

 

[borninnj]

As a species : we’re almost brand new at 250,000 yrs or so

If you just examine the last few centuries it’s utterly astounding!!
From mastering electricity to computers to jet rocket engines to discovering planets and stars on the far side of the Milky Way

Maybe time travel and visiting the stars might be beyond us but it’s amazing that we accomplished more in the last 200 yrs than the previous 200,000

Formation of cities permitted the intelligent to seek each other out and breed.

 

[Stann]

As a species : we’re almost brand new at 250,000 yrs or so

If you just examine the last few centuries it’s utterly astounding!!
From mastering electricity to computers to jet rocket engines to discovering planets and stars on the far side of the Milky Way

Maybe time travel and visiting the stars might be beyond us but it’s amazing that we accomplished more in the last 200 yrs than the previous 200,000

With a Little help from our Friends.

 

[itfitzme]

good point-----fact is "lower forms" did start using tools-----long long ago. Anyone
know when "man" first began to develope written language

I don't know that but a 3700 year old clay tablet with Pythagorean triplets was found in Australia, and finally deciphered by a mathematician this August.

Australian mathematician discovers applied geometry engraved on 3,700-year-old tablet

Old Babylonian tablet likely used for surveying uses Pythagorean triples at least 1,000 years before Pythagoras

www.theguardian.com

Plimpton 322: A Study of Rectangles - Foundations of Science

Plimpton 322 is one of the most sophisticated and interesting mathematical objects from antiquity. It is often regarded as teacher’s list of school problems, however new analysis suggests that it relates to a particular geometric problem in contemporary surveying.

link.springer.com

 

[itfitzme]

good point-----fact is "lower forms" did start using tools-----long long ago. Anyone
know when "man" first began to develope written language

Also, Robert Sapolsky is an excellent resource.




I think, here, he's demonstrating the first signing for milking an elephant. JK

1:42:47NOW PLAYING

No, seriously, this guy is brilliant.

 

[Likkmee]

"Man" was created 6,000 years ago. There is debate as to the humanoid creatures that roamed the earth before that, but at the creation of Man there was a huge difference between Man and those creatures that never even invented the wheel.