Am I wrong to bet on my immune system instead of the Covid vaccine?

The Vaccine wasn’t Created to “Save Us” from a Pandemic - The Plandemic was Created so we would take the Vaccine.
Hopefully, in light of Darwin's work, you have not yet bred.

I suppose you wouldn't want more intelligent people in the world that think for themselves. I guess you only want the sheeple reproducing. I actually have 3 kids and they are highly intelligent, so sorry to burst your little bubble.
 
The Vaccine wasn’t Created to “Save Us” from a Pandemic - The Plandemic was Created so we would take the Vaccine.
Hopefully, in light of Darwin's work, you have not yet bred.

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I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?

Well I think it is fair that if one side argues that there is such a low probability the vaccines will kill you, they should also recognize that there is also a low probability COVID will kill you too. I don't believe that all vaccines are equal. Eventually this virus could effectively die out and you be protected by everyone with whom you have contact getting the shot in your stead. Tis the nature of herd immunity. I personally think that the priority system they are using makes little sense. For instance cops are top priority, but the lawyers who defend the people they arrest are stage 3 priority, teachers are a priority but not janitors. Anyway, do as you like. It isn't like there are vaccine police who are going to be kicking your door in in the middle of the night to hold you down and inject you.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
I don't think you are wrong or right, it truly is up to you.

I just would like you to consider the full circumstances that surround you...the whole picture that only you would know before you make your final decision of whether to get a shot or not...

Let me say first, it is Great that you are healthy and fairly young for what is considered a senior cit!

-As a healthy person, you very well may catch covid and even be Asymptomatic and not notice anything....and that is really great for you!

but what you need to also consider is any family or friends or coworkers that you have... could catch it from you and get very sick from it, if not die....and if your contacts catch it from you, they in turn could pass the covid infection on to their family members or friends that are vulnerable.

This is a disease, that is hard to stop from spreading.... if you caught it... it is near 100% that you also gave it to someone else, or two someone elses or three someone elses, according to studies, and if you catch the new variant from the UK it is likely that you will pass it on to more than three, they are estimating through studies that you will likely pass on the UK Covid infection to 7 other people and those 7other people to another 7 each, and so on and so forth....

On the other hand, it could be that you have no family or friends near you, and don't work anymore and don't go out that much, but the grocery store, and then... you wear a mask, you may not pass it on to someone else less healthy?

Or, enough of the people surrounding and in your space, have had vaccines already, and you likely won't pass it on to them?

Or it could be that you don't give a hoot about others, one way or another? ;)



-the other thing I'd like you to consider is that even if you and the young-uns that don't get sick and are healthy....

by catching covid, you give Covid a chance to replicate and create a mutation, a new variant that spreads faster than the UK variant which is spreading now in the USA at a faster rate than the original Covid strain that we got in the U.S initially.... and the more people, even healthy people who catch it but do not get really sick from it, covid can create a variant different from the one you caught, and when you pass on the virus to someone else which studies show it is likely, there is a chance it is a new variant a mutated version...that you are passing on to them and this gets repeated until one variant gets stronger than the preceding one...and takes over, and this is repeated over and over again.

Well, bottom line is, eventually the vaccines given to those who took them that are the high risk vulnerable, along with others....will reach a point where the vaccines given, no longer protect all of society because the virus has changed so many times that it's structure is different enough, that the vaccines won't work.....

You personally, may not need one, and your circumstances may also dictate that you really don't need to get one, you can wait until it is fully approved by the FDA or choose not to at all... what ever!

But, there could be more to this than just you...that you should also consider??
I would say more proof this was manufactured with Dr Fakeys knowledge, approval,and illegal cash infusion to the Wuhan lab.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?

I'll probably get it, but I don't disparage people who don't. Or those who take a 'wait-and-see' attitude.

What bothers me is the propaganda war being waged to undermine, in general, our efforts to fight the pandemic.
That is interesting. What bothers Me is the propaganda war being waged to tell us we are all going to die unless we follwo the government recommendations --> to the letter.
The government wants half of us all dead. And they have Gates to assist with his poison. He is like Mengele, but instead of doing his experiments here, he goes to India. News here will not report the deaths of his "vaccines", but you might get info from India news.
Right - that's the kind of idiocy I'm talking about. A third of our country has gone q-anon-batshit insane.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
My guess Mike-----------is not so much your immune system BUT that you are a life long handwasher and don't invade others personal space which limits the transmission of virus's. I am from Texas too------my mom sure ingrained handwashing and avoiding others personal space which has saved me too from the FLU------but failed with the covid thanks to my husband bringing it into the house from one of his business trips. People with poor hygiene and poor manners are the ones getting infected mostly.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?

I'll probably get it, but I don't disparage people who don't. Or those who take a 'wait-and-see' attitude.

What bothers me is the propaganda war being waged to undermine, in general, our efforts to fight the pandemic.
That is interesting. What bothers Me is the propaganda war being waged to tell us we are all going to die unless we follwo the government recommendations --> to the letter.
The government wants half of us all dead. And they have Gates to assist with his poison. He is like Mengele, but instead of doing his experiments here, he goes to India. News here will not report the deaths of his "vaccines", but you might get info from India news.
Right - that's the kind of idiocy I'm talking about. A third of our country has gone q-anon-batshit insane.
That is pretty crazy but 1/3rd?
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?

I'll probably get it, but I don't disparage people who don't. Or those who take a 'wait-and-see' attitude.

What bothers me is the propaganda war being waged to undermine, in general, our efforts to fight the pandemic.
That is interesting. What bothers Me is the propaganda war being waged to tell us we are all going to die unless we follwo the government recommendations --> to the letter.
The government wants half of us all dead. And they have Gates to assist with his poison. He is like Mengele, but instead of doing his experiments here, he goes to India. News here will not report the deaths of his "vaccines", but you might get info from India news.
Right - that's the kind of idiocy I'm talking about. A third of our country has gone q-anon-batshit insane.
That is pretty crazy but 1/3rd?

Here's hoping that's an exaggeration.
 
The Vaccine wasn’t Created to “Save Us” from a Pandemic - The Plandemic was Created so we would take the Vaccine.

You built your case on pure emotion & zero facts, yet you rant & rave because we don't believe you & won't allow your kind to run the country!
 
I'll pass I'm 73 and with a host of medical problems. When they first started giving flu shots I always took the shot and always developed flu symptoms immediately afterward and then still likely as not caught the flu later on. So I quit taking them and caught the flu less often. Frankly too many people that I definitely do not trust seem far too determined that I will take the shot. I'll pass, thank you.
It’s a bad move !! You’re at extreme risk of catching it and not surviving
Talk to a doctor
This virus is no joke
Lighten up Dude. I'm 73. Odds are I'll die pretty soon no matter what I do or don't do. Nobody gets out of this life alive. Death is natural and universal and people are organic and biodegradable. I learned long ago that it's pretty stupid to fear the inevitable. Far too many people let fear of death ruin our one shot to enjoy life.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
My guess Mike-----------is not so much your immune system BUT that you are a life long handwasher and don't invade others personal space which limits the transmission of virus's. I am from Texas too------my mom sure ingrained handwashing and avoiding others personal space which has saved me too from the FLU------but failed with the covid thanks to my husband bringing it into the house from one of his business trips. People with poor hygiene and poor manners are the ones getting infected mostly.
Yet, we don't see them dying by the hundreds or thousands in homeless camps.
 
I have a good friend that recently died of the Covid.

He was robust 72 year old. Strong, active and had good energy. No chronic problems.

He pretty much adhered to the guidelines because he knew he was at risk because of his age. He wore a mask and really limited his trips outside the home. He was doing all the right things.

He was waiting to get the vaccine appointment but it hadn't been arranged yet.

He had severe flu symptoms. Got so bad he went to the emergency room. Was tested and had Covid. The pneumonia was pretty bad and it started to affect his other organs. He was on a ventilator for two weeks and finally everything gave out.

I went ahead and got the vaccine because of my age. However, if I was younger I wouldn't.

My 36 year old son had the Covid and only had mild symtoms for a couple of days. His wife got it at the same time and it was a little worse but nothing serious. My six year old granddaughter living with them never showed any signs of being sick.
 
So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
It reinforces my presumptions/prejudices/observations to find that in America it's all about the individual and the common good is not considered.
And that's exactly as it should be. The "common good" is-at best-a matter of opinion. At worse it is simply a lame excuse for people in power doing exactly as they please for whatever actual reason they please. Acting for the common good is only a virtue when it is the choice of the individual. Individuals can be, and often are, altruistic; never governments no matter what they claim.
 
I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
It’s obviously a judgement call and personal decision for everybody. I don’t do the flu shots and don’t plan to in the future. I’ve had all required vaccines needed to work in the school system as I’m a coach. I got the COVID vaccine for the sole reason to not risk catching and spreading it to my mother and pregnant sister. So for me it came down to concern for others and not a matter of personal security.
 
If you ask a scientist or a doctor they’re likely to tell you you are wrong to bet on your immune system instead of one of the vaccines
 
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I'm in my 60s, quite healthy haven't had a cold in at least 2 years. I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu. People don't believe me when I tell them that, but it's true. So why would I monkey with a proven robust immune system with (IMO) an unproven vaccine? I know there are plenty of anti-vaxxers out there but I have no problem with people opting for it, particularly if they are old and/or unhealthy. Covid numbers are coming down but no one KNOWS that it is because of the vaccines. Viruses do die out, you know. So that's my opinion, what is yours on the vaccine?
Yep, its your personal call.
 
I have a good friend that recently died of the Covid.

He was robust 72 year old. Strong, active and had good energy. No chronic problems.

He pretty much adhered to the guidelines because he knew he was at risk because of his age. He wore a mask and really limited his trips outside the home. He was doing all the right things.

He was waiting to get the vaccine appointment but it hadn't been arranged yet.

He had severe flu symptoms. Got so bad he went to the emergency room. Was tested and had Covid. The pneumonia was pretty bad and it started to affect his other organs. He was on a ventilator for two weeks and finally everything gave out.

I went ahead and got the vaccine because of my age. However, if I was younger I wouldn't.

My 36 year old son had the Covid and only had mild symtoms for a couple of days. His wife got it at the same time and it was a little worse but nothing serious. My six year old granddaughter living with them never showed any signs of being sick.
I’m sorry about your friend. You realize that he caught it because of the massive spread which comes from everybody, especially the younger generations, right? Likely a friend or family member that he came in contact with. The purpose of the vaccine isnt only to protect the vulnerable but also to slow and stop the spread of it. I’m young and not of a health risk but I’m vaccinated out of concern of spreading it to those around me who are. Wouldn’t you encourage your kids to do the same?
 
If you ask a scientist or a doctor instead they’re likely to tell you you are wrong to bet on your immune system instead of one of the vaccines
I spoke with a doctor who, although a fan of the vaccination, understands the individual right to decision. He said the person who had Covid but never knew it will likely have a strong reaction to the first shot...as the immune system already recognizes what the virus is and wants to fight it off. The first shot to someone who hasnt had the virus is likely to be more mild as it is a small unfamiliar intruder...but then recognized on the second shot and therefore gets a more severe response. I think a logical explanation helps people decide what to do.
 

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