Allright going to play the game. If this guy was black... would he have been dead?

[Lockback]

So? If you spend that much and it ends up in some rich person's pocket, is that helping?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

In that situation, what's the very first thing you do?

Stop spending.

That will never happen with the bloated bureaucratic monstrosity the US Government has become. It's way past time to cut the Fed back to the Constitutional limits it was founded on. If the people want to have all of the entitlement crap then the individual States can do that. The Fed has no business providing or legal standing to provide that shit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's perpetual dependence on the Federal Government and never enriching anyone.

Dealing with poverty should be about creating situations where people can succeed.

In the US that seems to difficult for politicians who aren't interested in anything but making money.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Dealing with poverty should be about creating situations where people can succeed.

In the US that seems to difficult for politicians who aren't interested in anything but making money.

The only scenario that works is for the Fed to stay out of the way. Free market capitalism is the only thing that can lift people out of poverty.

Never in the history of the world has things gotten better with more government.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The only scenario that works is for the Fed to stay out of the way. Free market capitalism is the only thing that can lift people out of poverty.

Never in the history of the world has things gotten better with more government.

I totally disagree. Free market capitalism has been shown to be totally inept at dealing with poverty.

It's difficult to compare statistics. Poverty rates are arbitrary, income inequality doesn't quite define it.

But the US with all its free market capitalism has inner city ghettos, lots of towns falling apart and people being left behind. Other countries in Europe with more government helping people, has less poverty, more opportunities for all.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I totally disagree. Free market capitalism has been shown to be totally inept at dealing with poverty.

It's difficult to compare statistics. Poverty rates are arbitrary, income inequality doesn't quite define it.

But the US with all its free market capitalism has inner city ghettos, lots of towns falling apart and people being left behind. Other countries in Europe with more government helping people, has less poverty, more opportunities for all.

How many poor people in socialist countries own the shit that the poor here in the US own ?

Free market capitalism makes things more affordable and in more variety than any other economic system in history.

If you think European countries don't have ghettos you are a moron.

 

[frigidweirdo]

How many poor people in socialist countries own the shit that the poor here in the US own ?

Free market capitalism makes things more affordable and in more variety than any other economic system in history.

If you think European countries don't have ghettos you are a moron.

It does. That doesn't mean people aren't in poverty.

And lots of capitalist countries are in poverty. Because you have the huge countries like the US who go out there and control everything, so the smaller capitalist countries get eaten up by the US and other rich countries.

Bolivia was told to privatize by the World Bank (read US government) in exchange for money. They did so, foreign companies bought up the milk industry, the water industry. Profits left the country, people paid more for those products, or didn't get them at all. La Paz ended up with 25% of people not getting clean water at all.

Bolivia got poorer because of going full capitalist.

The problem is you only see it from the point of view of the lion at the top which leeches off of the other countries and gets super rich, all the while this money does not trickle down, it just leads to resentment and problems and more crime. None of that money went to paying for better education, better communities.

Whereas you go to countries like Denmark where people live better lives because of the socialism.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It does. That doesn't mean people aren't in poverty.

And lots of capitalist countries are in poverty. Because you have the huge countries like the US who go out there and control everything, so the smaller capitalist countries get eaten up by the US and other rich countries.

Bolivia was told to privatize by the World Bank (read US government) in exchange for money. They did so, foreign companies bought up the milk industry, the water industry. Profits left the country, people paid more for those products, or didn't get them at all. La Paz ended up with 25% of people not getting clean water at all.

Bolivia got poorer because of going full capitalist.

The problem is you only see it from the point of view of the lion at the top which leeches off of the other countries and gets super rich, all the while this money does not trickle down, it just leads to resentment and problems and more crime. None of that money went to paying for better education, better communities.

Whereas you go to countries like Denmark where people live better lives because of the socialism.

Your last comment done it for me.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

Democratic Socialists have presented Denmark as the elusive nation where socialism has been successful, and thus a model for the policies they would implement in the United States. Bernie Sanders regularly invoked Denmark during the 2016 presidential campaign, and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez...

www.acton.org

 

[frigidweirdo]

Your last comment done it for me.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

Democratic Socialists have presented Denmark as the elusive nation where socialism has been successful, and thus a model for the policies they would implement in the United States. Bernie Sanders regularly invoked Denmark during the 2016 presidential campaign, and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez...

www.acton.org

I'm sorry you're not interested in talking about this topic.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I'm sorry you're not interested in talking about this topic.

Because you are hilariously wrong, about everything.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Because you are hilariously wrong, about everything.

Yeah, and you prove I'm wrong with all those stats, facts and logic.... not.

It's hilarious when people come on here and think an argument is just "well, this is what I think". Makes me wonder whether any of you have ever been to school.