All Violent Felony Antifa 2017 Trump Inauguration Protest Charges Dismissed, Peaceful J6 Protester Gets 15 Years

[Oldestyle]

Name anyone you believe was given a '15 year prison sentence for a non violent protest,' and you'll have a serious discussion.

Name anyone who was actually given a '15 year prison sentence for a non violent protest.'

Name any non-violent protester(s) that went to prison, vs other punishment after a plea or being found guilty in a court of law..

With all due respect, Dante? What do you think this string is about? Go back and read the first post!

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Why? There is no "whataboutism" or "eguivalency". J6 was an attempt to overthrow the government.

If you try it again, the same thing will happen.

Until Oldestyle names individuals, it's not worth the bandwidth to respond.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

With all due respect, Dante? What do you think this string is about? Go back and read the first post!

This creep was Not sentenced for being a peaceful protester. He was not sentenced for walking around the Capitol and taking selfies.
Quote:

Zach Rehl, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the alt-right Proud Boys, was sentenced Thursday to 15 years in federal prison for his role in fomenting the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The punishment — handed down by U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly — fell just shy of the longest prison term imposed against any of the hundreds of people sentenced in connection with the riot so far.

It is exceeded only by the 17-year sentence Kelly gave to Rehl’s codefendant — Joseph Biggs, a Proud Boy leader from Florida — who was sentenced earlier in the day, and the 18-year prison term handed to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes in May.

Still, the sentence Rehl received was half the minimum term recommended by federal sentencing guidelines and the 30 years that prosecutors sought for what they described as “an effort to change the course of American history” by force.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

With all due respect, Dante? What do you think this string is about? Go back and read the first post!

Portland Antifa rioter’s charges for assaulting police dropped, court says community service will do


A federal court has dropped its case against a Portland Antifa rioter accused of assaulting police officers, letting the defendant go in exchange for doing 30 hours of community service.

Eva Warner, a 26-year-old transgender woman from Beaverton, Oregon, was arrested by Portland police on three separate occasions for rioting. She was released without bail each time, according to multiple reports.

On one occasion the police said she pointed a high-power laser at officers’ eyes as they were attempting to disburse a crowd during a riot in August 2020.

She fought with the police during the arrest, according to the police.

Ms. Warner was taken into by U.S. Marshals and charged with felony civil disorder in September of last year amid a federal investigation.


Last week, acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, Scott Erik Asphaug, filed a motion to dismiss Ms. Warner’s charges noting that she had performed “30 hours of community service” as part of a Deferred Resolution Agreement, according to court documents.


U.S. District Court Judge Michael H. Simon dismissed the indictment the following day.

Portland Antifa rioter’s charges for assaulting police dropped, court says community service will do

A federal court has dropped its case against a Portland Antifa rioter accused of assaulting police officers, letting the defendant go in exchange for doing 30 hours of community service.

www.washingtontimes.com

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again, the story, even in the rightwing WashingtonTimes does not make the case made in the OP

 

[Oldestyle]

This creep was Not sentenced for being a peaceful protester. He was not sentenced for walking around the Capitol and taking selfies.
Quote:

Zach Rehl, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the alt-right Proud Boys, was sentenced Thursday to 15 years in federal prison for his role in fomenting the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The punishment — handed down by U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly — fell just shy of the longest prison term imposed against any of the hundreds of people sentenced in connection with the riot so far.

It is exceeded only by the 17-year sentence Kelly gave to Rehl’s codefendant — Joseph Biggs, a Proud Boy leader from Florida — who was sentenced earlier in the day, and the 18-year prison term handed to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes in May.

Still, the sentence Rehl received was half the minimum term recommended by federal sentencing guidelines and the 30 years that prosecutors sought for what they described as “an effort to change the course of American history” by force.

I'm curious...do you honestly believe that election not being certified on that day changed "the course of American history", Dante? That when it was certified the very next day in a Capitol building that was open and running again less than 24 hours after the riot that our democracy was damaged to such an extent that protesters needed to sent to prison for terms that we normally reserve for murderers and rapists?

 

[Oldestyle]

Portland Antifa rioter’s charges for assaulting police dropped, court says community service will do


A federal court has dropped its case against a Portland Antifa rioter accused of assaulting police officers, letting the defendant go in exchange for doing 30 hours of community service.

Eva Warner, a 26-year-old transgender woman from Beaverton, Oregon, was arrested by Portland police on three separate occasions for rioting. She was released without bail each time, according to multiple reports.

On one occasion the police said she pointed a high-power laser at officers’ eyes as they were attempting to disburse a crowd during a riot in August 2020.

She fought with the police during the arrest, according to the police.

Ms. Warner was taken into by U.S. Marshals and charged with felony civil disorder in September of last year amid a federal investigation.


Last week, acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, Scott Erik Asphaug, filed a motion to dismiss Ms. Warner’s charges noting that she had performed “30 hours of community service” as part of a Deferred Resolution Agreement, according to court documents.


U.S. District Court Judge Michael H. Simon dismissed the indictment the following day.

Portland Antifa rioter’s charges for assaulting police dropped, court says community service will do

A federal court has dropped its case against a Portland Antifa rioter accused of assaulting police officers, letting the defendant go in exchange for doing 30 hours of community service.

www.washingtontimes.com

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again, the story, even in the rightwing WashingtonTimes does not make the case made in the OP

Why was that violent protester arrested 3 times...each time being released back onto the streets almost immediately?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I'm curious...do you honestly believe that election not being certified on that day changed "the course of American history", Dante? That when it was certified the very next day in a Capitol building that was open and running again less than 24 hours after the riot that our democracy was damaged to such an extent that protesters needed to sent to prison for terms that we normally reserve for murderers and rapists?

Yes. Those people tried to overthrow the fair and square election of the President. At least six people died in part because of that day's idiocy by rampaging idiots.

If it happens again, they must be shot down.

You vote. The system is fair. You accept the result. Trump lost. Get over it.

 

[Oldestyle]

Yes. Those people tried to overthrow the fair and square election of the President. At least six people died in part because of that day's idiocy by rampaging idiots.

If it happens again, they must be shot down.

You vote. The system is fair. You accept the result. Trump lost. Get over it.

Six people died because of the actions of the protesters? Who pray tell? Ashli Babbitt was shot at point blank range because she tried to break a door down. Who was killed by a protester?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

You think a thousand unarmed protesters were going to "overthrow the government"? That was a protest to stop the certification of an election not to overthrow the government. Even making that claim is laughable.

Stopping the certification of a presidential election. That would stop the peaceful transfer of power.

"The criminal charges against the rioters include assault on law enforcement officers; "violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol ground"; trespassing; disrupting Congress; theft or other property crimes; weapons offenses; making threats; and conspiracy, including seditious conspiracy." - Wiki entry
"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Oldestyle]

Yes. Those people tried to overthrow the fair and square election of the President. At least six people died in part because of that day's idiocy by rampaging idiots.

If it happens again, they must be shot down.

You vote. The system is fair. You accept the result. Trump lost. Get over it.

And that election was not "fair and square"! There was obvious election interference by the FBI, the DOJ, the Main Stream Media and Social Media sites to coverup the Hunter Biden laptop story and the Biden family influence peddling scandal. The people behind THAT are the one's that need to be held to account for damaging our nation. They stuck us with the corrupt idiot we have for a President. No way that happens if the above groups didn't collude to MAKE it happen!

 

[Oldestyle]

Stopping the certification of a presidential election. That would stop the peaceful transfer of power.

"The criminal charges against the rioters include assault on law enforcement officers; "violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol ground"; trespassing; disrupting Congress; theft or other property crimes; weapons offenses; making threats; and conspiracy, including seditious conspiracy." - Wiki entry
"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

www.law.cornell.edu

LOL...for a day?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

When you're trying to make the case that a politician supported by nearly half the country is guilty of sedition and treason, you should err on the side of transparency, for the very reason that you're going to be accused of false accusations and maybe even kick off the kind of violence you claim you're trying to prosecute if you only release damaging bits and pieces. That's just common sense for everyone not in the fever swamp.

"The United States House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (commonly referred to as the January 6th Committee) was a bipartisan select committee of the U.S. House of Representatives established to investigate the U.S. Capitol attack." wiki entry
first: Try and refute a fact. The bold text in the wiki quotes vs the bold text in your narrative. The committee did not set out to make the case that Trump was guilty of treason or anything else.
"The committee alleged violations of four criminal statutes by Trump, in both the run-up to the riot and during the insurrection itself, as it recommended the former president for prosecution to the Justice Department. The charges recommended by the committee are conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, conspiracy to make a false statement and aiding an insurrection."

Jan. 6 committee issues criminal referrals against Trump and lawyer Eastman

The panel’s seven Democrats and two Republicans are recommending criminal charges against Trump and associates who helped him launch a multifaceted pressure campaign to try to overturn his 2020 election loss.

www.pbs.org

You people just can't accept facts. You make shit up.

 

[Oldestyle]

"The United States House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (commonly referred to as the January 6th Committee) was a bipartisan select committee of the U.S. House of Representatives established to investigate the U.S. Capitol attack." wiki entry
first: Try and refute a fact. The bold text in the wiki quotes vs the bold text in your narrative. The committee did not set out to make the case that Trump was guilty of treason or anything else.
"The committee alleged violations of four criminal statutes by Trump, in both the run-up to the riot and during the insurrection itself, as it recommended the former president for prosecution to the Justice Department. The charges recommended by the committee are conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, conspiracy to make a false statement and aiding an insurrection."

Jan. 6 committee issues criminal referrals against Trump and lawyer Eastman

The panel’s seven Democrats and two Republicans are recommending criminal charges against Trump and associates who helped him launch a multifaceted pressure campaign to try to overturn his 2020 election loss.

www.pbs.org

You people just can't accept facts. You make shit up.

Claiming that committee was a "bipartisan select committee" borders on farce, Dante! It was selected by Nancy Pelosi! She refused to seat the GOP members that the House Minority Leader named. That was a show trial. You know it and so do I.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I'm curious...do you honestly believe that election not being certified on that day changed "the course of American history", Dante? That when it was certified the very next day in a Capitol building that was open and running again less than 24 hours after the riot that our democracy was damaged to such an extent that protesters needed to sent to prison for terms that we normally reserve for murderers and rapists?

"Due to violent unrest in and around the Capitol, the electoral results were not certified until 3:44 a.m., the morning of January 7, 2021."

Rioters and insurrectionists were not 'sent to prison for terms that we normally reserve for murderers and rapists.'

You've completely ignored every question raised by your accusations.

you're not being serious here.

good bye.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Claiming that committee was a "bipartisan select committee" borders on farce, Dante! It was selected by Nancy Pelosi! She refused to seat the GOP members that the House Minority Leader named. That was a show trial. You know it and so do I.

not true.

your
spin sucks

 

[Oldestyle]

not true.

your
spin sucks

What's not true about my statement. Nancy Pelosi wouldn't seat the GOP members named by the House Minority Leader. Do you dispute that?

 

[Oldestyle]

When the House Minority Leader protested her actions (which I've NEVER seen a Speaker of the House do!) and refused to participate in the hearings unless the GOP members he named were seated on the Committee, Nancy Pelosi named Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger...two Republicans well known for their hatred of Trump.
Claiming that committee was "non partisan" is a joke and you know it! It was the most partisan committee seated on Capital Hill since the days of McCarthy.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

What's not true about my statement. Nancy Pelosi wouldn't seat the GOP members named by the House Minority Leader. Do you dispute that?

See?

You can't keep facts straight:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday rejected two Republican members for the select committee that will investigate the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy responded by threatening to pull House Republicans out of the process.

Pelosi rejects GOP picks Jordan, Banks on Jan. 6 committee; McCarthy threatens to pull out

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy responds that if Pelosi doesn't "reverse course," the GOP will launch their own Jan. 6 investigation.

www.usatoday.com

facts: Pelosi's principled argument

McCarthy on Monday selected five Republicans to join the committee: ranking member Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, North Dakota Rep. Kelly Armstrong and Texas Rep. Troy Nehls.

Earlier Wednesday, Pelosi said she "must reject the recommendations of Representatives Banks and Jordan to the Select Committee."

In a statement, Pelosi said she had spoken with McCarthy about "the objections raised about Representatives Jim Banks and Jim Jordan and the impact their appointments may have on the integrity of the investigation."

Both Banks and Jordan were among those who opposed certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election and have criticized the select committee's investigation. Pelosi cited both those factors in her rejection of the two.

 

[Oldestyle]

And that election was not "fair and square"! There was obvious election interference by the FBI, the DOJ, the Main Stream Media and Social Media sites to coverup the Hunter Biden laptop story and the Biden family influence peddling scandal. The people behind THAT are the one's that need to be held to account for damaging our nation. They stuck us with the corrupt idiot we have for a President. No way that happens if the above groups didn't collude to MAKE it happen!

Fake news? What in that statement is fake news? When the above groups colluded to trot out those 51 "former intelligence officials" to declare that the Hunter lap top was Russian disinformation THAT was fake news! They knew they were lying through their teeth and they did it to protect Joe Biden.

 

[Oldestyle]

See?

You can't keep facts straight:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday rejected two Republican members for the select committee that will investigate the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy responded by threatening to pull House Republicans out of the process.

Pelosi rejects GOP picks Jordan, Banks on Jan. 6 committee; McCarthy threatens to pull out

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy responds that if Pelosi doesn't "reverse course," the GOP will launch their own Jan. 6 investigation.

www.usatoday.com

facts: Pelosi's principled argument

McCarthy on Monday selected five Republicans to join the committee: ranking member Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, North Dakota Rep. Kelly Armstrong and Texas Rep. Troy Nehls.

Earlier Wednesday, Pelosi said she "must reject the recommendations of Representatives Banks and Jordan to the Select Committee."

In a statement, Pelosi said she had spoken with McCarthy about "the objections raised about Representatives Jim Banks and Jim Jordan and the impact their appointments may have on the integrity of the investigation."

Both Banks and Jordan were among those who opposed certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election and have criticized the select committee's investigation. Pelosi cited both those factors in her rejection of the two.

LOL...Nancy rejected those two because of "integrity" concerns? But she was OK with Adam Schiff? Now THAT is some funny shit!