Shusha
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Wait, what? Are you saying that basic, universal, inalienable rights belong to some peoples, but not to others? What is your criteria for that? Other than Jooooooos?!
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Wait, what? Are you saying that basic, universal, inalienable rights belong to some peoples, but not to others? What is your criteria for that? Other than Jooooooos?!
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The Palestinians are a nation of people who are citizens of a territory defined by international borders.
The Jews are foreign colonial settlers.
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Maybe in Your twisted narrative, but not according to international law.
Jews are the sovereigns of Palestine by right.
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The Palestinians are a nation of people who are citizens of a territory defined by international borders.
Citizens of a territory? LOL!
Territories aren't nations. Palestine isn't a nation. Never has been.
At the rate the Palestinians are screwing up, if they ever become a nation, it will be the size of Lichtenstein.
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Ah, I see. So your invented “country of Pal’istan” is actually described as “the country of a nation of Islamist settler colonists who occupy a territory”
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1. From Ottoman subjects into Palestinian citizens Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens. This is what Article 1, Clause (1) , of the 1925 Palestinian Citizenship Order declared with regard to those persons who formed, according to domestic law, the first ‘Palestinians’.
As already concluded in Chapter III above, the ‘Palestinian people’ had been defined according to international law on 6 August 1924, the date at which the Treaty of Lausanne was enforced. Hence, the just quoted clause was a mere declaration of pre-existing international law. This clause refers to the automatic, or ipso facto, acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by those persons resident in Palestine who had replaced their former Turkish, or Ottoman, nationality. Although the term ‘ipso facto’ is not literally employed, it should be easily understood as the clause is a direct application of Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne, 1923, which stated that “Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which... is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto... nationals...”. Thus, Turkish individuals who were covered by this clause became Palestinians by the operation of law without further action.
https://doc.rero.ch/record/9065/files/these.pdf
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By that time Palestine was already established as Jewish National Homeland in international law.
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Oh, please. Not this silly cut and paste again where you try and claim the Treaty of Lausanne created your invented “country of Pal’istan”.
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"Treaty" means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instru ment or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation;
San Remo conference (April 26 1920)
The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on the 8th [2nd] November, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
San Remo Convention - Palestine Mandate - 1920
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The Palestinians are a nation of people who are citizens of a territory defined by international borders.
The Jews are foreign colonial settlers.[/QUOTE]
According to your definition, then, the "peoples" who have basic, universal, inalienable rights are those who:
are a nation
are citizens
have a territory defined by international borders
In other words, the only "peoples" who hold those rights are existing nations and the only "peoples" with the right to self-determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity are existing nations. That's problematic on a number of levels:
Jordan had better give that territory back to Palestine.
Czech Republic and Slovakia had better reunite
Someone had better fix Yugoslavia and the USSR and the Koreas
Palestine (all of it) is the National Homeland of the Jewish people
Did you want to try again?
Shusha
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No one is arguing that all Arab Palestinians and all Jewish Palestinians became citizens of the territory under the Mandate for Palestine. We ALL agree on that. For the obvious reasons laid out above.
This is meaningless under the context of what ELSE happened between 1920 and 1950.
For example, if this is the be all and end all and the only thing that matters with respect to "Palestine", if this created a "State of Palestine" (which is utterly ridiculous) and etched in stone and unchangeable -- how did Jordan happen?
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Shhh.,, Don’t tell him that. You’ will l upset Him.
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Fighting the double standard: Palestinians file case to demolish illegal settlement homes
Two Ramallah-area Palestinian villages — Deir Dibwan and Anata — have filed a case in the Israeli High Court, asking Israeli authorities to demolish illegal structures in the Israeli settlement of Kfar Adumim — the same settlement which has ceaselessly pushed for the state’s decision to demolish Khan al-Ahmar.
The villagers are arguing for the demolition of some 120 homes and structures and four outposts in Kfar Adumim which were built without permits from Israeli authorities and lie outside of the planned borders of the settlement.
The structures in question were built on privately owned land belonging to residents of Deir Dibwan and Anata.
Fighting the double standard: Palestinians file case to demolish illegal settlement homes
Two Ramallah-area Palestinian villages — Deir Dibwan and Anata — have filed a case in the Israeli High Court, asking Israeli authorities to demolish illegal structures in the Israeli settlement of Kfar Adumim — the same settlement which has ceaselessly pushed for the state’s decision to demolish Khan al-Ahmar.
The villagers are arguing for the demolition of some 120 homes and structures and four outposts in Kfar Adumim which were built without permits from Israeli authorities and lie outside of the planned borders of the settlement.
The structures in question were built on privately owned land belonging to residents of Deir Dibwan and Anata.
Fighting the double standard: Palestinians file case to demolish illegal settlement homes
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This is something I have posted more then once which includes the Old City where Israel’s Sacred and Religious Sites are.Of course, there is NO Response. One more reason why Israel will never go back to the “ borders “ that weren’t recognized before
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Indeed, the aid has been going to the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
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