All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[Mac-7]

Not go with 'babies of mass destruction' , like some Bush the lesser redux Mac

Not go with their 'right to exist' at the USA's expense....


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Israel is one of our best allies

Maybe the best

 

[sparky]

Israel is one of our best allies

what have they done for us Mac?

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[Mac-7]

what have they done for us Mac?

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Our only ally in the ME

 

[sparky]

Our only ally in the ME

who've done what for the USA Mac?

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[toomuchtime_]

what have they done for us Mac?

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What have the Europeans ever done for us other than cost us 400,000 dead soldiers and 1,500,000 wounded?

In the 1960's and 1970's, when the US seemed to be losing the Cold War everywhere else, Israel was able to defeat Soviet client states, Egypt and Syria, which led to the Soviets being booted out of Egypt, and the US was able to build upon those Israeli victories to block the Soviets out with the treaty between Israel and Egypt. If Israel hadn't been there or had lost the wars, only Jordan would have stood between the Soviet and the Gulf oil fields, and the US would have had to send troops to Saudi Arabia to stop the Russians.
That was long ago, but that alliance still blocks Russia from becoming a threat to US interests in the ME.

Today, the US would have to deploy significant military power to the ME to prevent the Iranian empire, which reaches all the way to the Mediterranean, to contain it from coming all the way to Africa if not for Israel.

 

[sparky]

If Israel hadn't been there or had lost the wars, only Jordan would have stood between the Soviet and the Gulf oil fields, and the US would have had to send troops to Saudi Arabia to stop the Russians.

uh huh

so tell us how much support we had from them in the last 2 decades protecting our oilocracy in the middle east .....

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[sparky]

Was Israel involved in the Iraq war?


During the war, Israel was one of the main suppliers of military equipment to Iran. Israel also provided military instructors during the war and direct support to Iran's war effort, when it bombed and destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, during Operation Opera.

some 'allie'.....

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[Mac-7]

who've done what for the USA Mac?

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The only democracy in the ME

It was Israel that destroyed Saddam’s nuclear reactor

 

[sparky]

The only democracy in the ME

while true, i would only say they've lowered that bar substantially Mac ~S~

 

[toomuchtime_]

uh huh

so tell us how much support we had from them in the last 2 decades protecting our oilocracy in the middle east .....

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While the US has huge fossil fuel reserves, it is not an oilocracy.

 

[sparky]

It was Israel that destroyed Saddam’s nuclear reactor

As well as the USS Liberty

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[toomuchtime_]

while true, i would only say they've lowered that bar substantially Mac ~S~

Why would you say that?

 

[sparky]

While the US has huge fossil fuel reserves, it is not an oilocracy.

The term implies political influence TMT

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[toomuchtime_]

As well as the USS Liberty
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There have been many investigations, starting with the US Navy and Congress and several administrations including the last Bush administration, and all concluded the ship was not clearly identified. Friendly fire incidents are not uncommon in wartime.

 

[sparky]

Why would you say that?

define democracy TMT

fact is, most folks can't formulate a metric anymore than they can for freedom

I'd gladly read the upper quintile's take here, being merely a pig farmer from an inconsequential state in the north east does beg such cerebral desires at times.... ~S~

 

[sparky]

Friendly fire incidents are not uncommon in wartime.

true
nor are false flags

WMD.....

Gulf of Token......

the list is appreciably distinguished in our history

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[toomuchtime_]

The term implies political influence TMT

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So your question is how did Israel help the US increase its influence with the Gulf oil states? I didn't know the US needed any, but the fact remains that with Israel as an ally the US doesn't have to deploy many US troops to protect it interests in the ME.

 

[toomuchtime_]

define democracy TMT

fact is, most folks can't formulate a metric anymore than they can for freedom

I'd gladly read the upper quintile's take here, being merely a pig farmer from an inconsequential state in the north east does beg such cerebral desires at times.... ~S~

We all know what democracy means, a system of government in which the government is selected by all the people it governs.

 

[sparky]

but the fact remains that with Israel as an ally the US doesn't have to deploy many US troops to protect it interests in the ME.

I'll go out on a limb and say the Mossad does a lot of our dirty work , w/out any US fingerprints TMT ~S~

 

[toomuchtime_]

true
nor are false flags

WMD.....

Gulf of Token......

the list is appreciably distinguished in our history

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Since many investigations, including the Navy's found it was a friendly fire incident, why do you doubt it?