All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Do you mean that fake state inside those fake armistice lines?

Link?

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

Israel has borders shared with Arab nations you are aware of, but in denial of. Are you just feigning ignorance or in denial of your ignorance?

You can ask your heroes in either of the islamic terrorist enclaves of Gaza or the West Bank. They know where the israeli border is. Both of those Islamic terrorist franchises have pushed children to the border with the intent of making them gee-had casualties.

That's really perverse. Congrats. How does it feel to be an accomplice to perversion?

 

[Hollie]

It's difficult to imagine anyone taking Rashida Talib seriously.

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Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D.-Mich.) is criticizing the COVID-19 relief measure which is providing $1,400 per resident of the United States with incomes under $75,000.

The $1,400 payment begins phasing out for people whose incomes exceed $75,000.

Instead, Tlaib wants the government to give people monthly payments of $2,000 “every month.”

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

 

[Hollie]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

That's been cut and pasted any number of times. It's another of silly attempts you make to make a geographic area something of your imagined Arab-Moslem Wonderland.

Palestine is a geographic area of the former Ottoman caliphate. It's not the ''Magical Kingdom of Pal'istan'' you believe it to be.

I can post a map of Disneyland if you want a real Magical Kingdom to obsess over.

 

[Hollie]

Map of Old Testament Israel

View attachment 474355

 

[rylah]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

Still Palestine!

And still not what you pretend it was...

Q. And what difference does it make, if even Arabs call it the "Jewish desert"?

 

[rylah]

Sahara Yahudin - The Jewish Desert

صحراء يهودا

The Judaean Desert or Judean Desert (Hebrew: Midbar Yehuda, both Desert of Judah or Judaean Desert; Arabic:‎ Sahara Yahudin صحراء يهودا ) is a desert in Israel and the West Bank that lies east of Jerusalem and descends to the Dead Sea. It stretches from the northeastern Negev to the east of Beit El, and is marked by natural terraces with escarpments. It ends in a steep escarpment dropping to the Dead Sea and the Jordan Valley. The Judaean Desert is crossed by numerous wadis from northeast to southeast and has many ravines, most of them deep, from 1,200 feet in the west to 600 feet in the east. The Judaean Desert is an area with a special morphological structure along the east of the Judaean Mountains.

Judaean Desert - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

That's been cut and pasted any number of times. It's another of silly attempts you make to make a geographic area something of your imagined Arab-Moslem Wonderland.

Palestine is a geographic area of the former Ottoman caliphate. It's not the ''Magical Kingdom of Pal'istan'' you believe it to be.

I can post a map of Disneyland if you want a real Magical Kingdom to obsess over.

Israel is not mentioned on the map or in the document. In both it is Palestine.

Deal with it.

 

[Hollie]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

That's been cut and pasted any number of times. It's another of silly attempts you make to make a geographic area something of your imagined Arab-Moslem Wonderland.

Palestine is a geographic area of the former Ottoman caliphate. It's not the ''Magical Kingdom of Pal'istan'' you believe it to be.

I can post a map of Disneyland if you want a real Magical Kingdom to obsess over.

Israel is not mentioned on the map or in the document. In both it is Palestine.

Deal with it.

Israel is labeled on the map.

You're in denial.

 

[toastman]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Official Palestinian Authority TV

What Palestinian law or policy states that they pay terrorists?

Link?

Link: PA TV repeats Abbas’ vow to pay terrorists no matter what – even “if we are left with only one penny” | PMW Translations
(COMMENT)

What they will do, is what most criminal enterprises do, create front so PA activities can go unmolested. It would be easy for the PA to list them as employees.

​

While the PA has been heavily pressured to cease the payment program, Abbas remains committed. “Since the martyrs are the most sacred among us, and since the wounded are the most sacred among us, and since the prisoners are the most sacred among us, we cannot abandon them and their families,” he said on PA TV news on March 13. "If we are left with only one penny, we will give it to their families."​

SOURCE: Jerusalem Post​

​

​

The International Covenant also prohibits material and financial support to the terrorists.

​

​

◈ Requires parties to take steps to prevent and counteract the financing of terrorists, whether direct or indirect, through groups claiming to have charitable, social or cultural goals or which also engage in illicit activities such as drug trafficking or gun running;​

​

◈ Commits States to hold those who finance terrorism criminally, civilly or administratively liable for such acts; and​

​

◈ Provides for the identification, freezing and seizure of funds allocated for terrorist activities, as well as for the sharing of the forfeited funds with other States on a case-by-case basis. Bank secrecy is no longer adequate justification for refusing to cooperate.​

SOURCE:​

1999 International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism​

​

​

Most Respectfully,
R

“Since the martyrs are the most sacred among us, and since the wounded are the most sacred among us, and since the prisoners are the most sacred among us, we cannot abandon them and their families,”​

You are ducking. I don't see terrorists mentioned in the quote.

I suppose that is a part of the pathology that afflicts those in the Pally enclaves. It's a complete inversion of societal norms where killers of innocent people are regaled as heroes. I suppose that is why life is cheap in the Pal Islamic terrorist enclaves. It's an inversion of hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution when mothers actively assist and then celebrate the death of their children. Nature has pre-programmed life with a survival instinct. It's evident in all living animals. It's as though the Pally's have made a choice to undue basic human instincts and societal norms.

Flail your Pom Poms.

It's a complete inversion of societal norms where killers of innocent people are regaled as heroes.

They are all settlers.

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Do you have a constructive comment to make relative to the "content" of the fmr-SECSTATE, or are you just blowing hot air.

View attachment 473795​

Mike Pompeo (@mikepompeo) Tweeted:
Laundering our taxpayer money to support Palestinian terrorists is not only unlawful under the Taylor Force Act — it is immoral.

Is Pompeo Italian for pompous ass? Glad he's gone.

(COMMENT)

It might be helpful if you would tell us what is inaccurate in the statement by fmr-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Is there something you know about the application of the Taylor-Force Act (TFA) 22 §2378c–1. Limitation on assistance to the West Bank and Gaza (have revoked any law, decree, regulation, or document authorizing or implementing a system of compensation for imprisoned individuals that uses the sentence or period of incarceration of an individual imprisoned for an act of terrorism to determine the level of compensation paid, or have taken comparable action that has the effect of invalidating any such law, decree, regulation, or document)?

Most Respectfully,
R

What Palestinian law or policy states that they pay terrorists?

Link?

Why didn’t you answer his question ? Ducking as usual Tinmore ?

Because it was based on the false assumption that it is the Palestinians who are attacking Israel.

Well hey, at least you admitted that you ducked the question...

Well if the Palestinians aren’t attacking Israel, they are defending themselves, right ? So can you give several specific examples with links of Palestinians defending themselves ?

Stupid post of the day!

I simply asked you to give me several specific examples of Palestinians ‘defending’ themselves and provide links. But I see that all you have are childish insults. No surprise to me . But then again, even if you had tried your very hardest, You would not be able to find examples of Palestinians defending themselves. Mainly because it never happened .

 

[toastman]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Map of Palestine, 1949. After the Mandate. After Resolution 181. After the 1948 war.

Still Palestine!

That's been cut and pasted any number of times. It's another of silly attempts you make to make a geographic area something of your imagined Arab-Moslem Wonderland.

Palestine is a geographic area of the former Ottoman caliphate. It's not the ''Magical Kingdom of Pal'istan'' you believe it to be.

I can post a map of Disneyland if you want a real Magical Kingdom to obsess over.

Israel is not mentioned on the map or in the document. In both it is Palestine.

Deal with it.

So because you posted a map of the former geographical area known as Palestine, the sovereign state known as Israel , who is also a member of the U.N , simply disappears from the face of the earth. Hmmm. What’s even more ridiculous is that you referred to another post of mine as “STUPID POST OF THE DAY”.
But this Tinmore , this takes the cake ! Your desperation to prove to us that Israel doesn’t exist is more pathetic than your attempts to prove rove to us that Palestine was always a country . Very childish Tinmore... Very very childish....

 

[toastman]

Do you mean that fake state inside those fake armistice lines?

Link?

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

Israel’s real borders are the ones that are defined by treaties with Jordan and Egypt. Interesting how no mention of Palestine was in there

Edit: forgot to mention how Israel’s borders are internationally recognized. Palestine however, does not have borders .. what a shame .

 

[P F Tinmore]

Do you mean that fake state inside those fake armistice lines?

Link?

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

Israel’s real borders are the ones that are defined by treaties with Jordan and Egypt. Interesting how no mention of Palestine was in there

Edit: forgot to mention how Israel’s borders are internationally recognized. Palestine however, does not have borders .. what a shame .

Palestine however, does not have borders

It depends on who you ask.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Map Reading 101 • Armistice Lines 102
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Back in the day, Maps were not generated until they were requested. If you look at the "reference Block, below the Title Block, you will notice that the basic map was generated at a time before the State of Israel was established:

Compiled, drawn & printed by Survey of Palestine, Aug 1944.

​

Israel is not mentioned on the map or in the document. In both it is Palestine.
Deal with it.

(COMMENT)

The Map Maker could not have set the boundaries of Israel in 1944 which didn't come into existence until 1948.

The criteria for a "state" does not necessitate a "map." But it must have evidence that the claim has a measure of ground truth.

I don't really understand your hang-up on the Regional Map of Palestine. The 1922 Palestine Order in Council specifically stated:

"The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine."​

I don't understand your fixation on the Armistice Lines. The Lines were only in force up and until a peace agreement was reached.

As far as the former Armistice Lines are concerned for the force operating in the former territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applied, they are only a faded reference. They are no longer legitimate boundaries except as a reference.

"Any serious violation by one party gives the other the right of denunciation and even of recommencement of hostilities at once in case of urgency:" (Article 40 • The Hague Regulation, 18 October 1907. "But an infraction by an individual confers upon the aggrieved party only the right of demanding punishment of the offender and an indemnity:" (Article 41 • The Hague Regulation).

Why are you so interested in this aspect of history. It is not like an Umpire is going to roll the clock back so that the Arab Palestinians can replay the event in their favor.

No matter what you may think is right or fair, moral or honest → in 1948, the State of Israel was declared. And that does not require approval by the Hostile Arab Palestinians of that time period.

The 21st Century State of Palestine "might" have been created in December 2012. But where do the Arab Palestinians actually have a defined territory that the Palestinian Government (whichever one that ultimately turns out to be)? State territory might be considered that surface area of the Earth that is subjected to the sovereignty of a state.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Do you mean that fake state inside those fake armistice lines?

Link?

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

Israel’s real borders are the ones that are defined by treaties with Jordan and Egypt. Interesting how no mention of Palestine was in there

Edit: forgot to mention how Israel’s borders are internationally recognized. Palestine however, does not have borders .. what a shame .

Palestine however, does not have borders

It depends on who you ask.

No. It doesn’t.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Do you mean that fake state inside those fake armistice lines?

Link?

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

Israel’s real borders are the ones that are defined by treaties with Jordan and Egypt. Interesting how no mention of Palestine was in there

Edit: forgot to mention how Israel’s borders are internationally recognized. Palestine however, does not have borders .. what a shame .

Palestine however, does not have borders

It depends on who you ask.

No. It doesn’t.

Who asked you?

The Zionists have been trying to disappear Palestine for over a hundred years. The Palestinians aren't buying it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with the former Armistice Agreement. In the case of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they were between the "military commands" of Israel and the commands of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The Arab Palestinians were NOT a party to any of the four agreements.

Look at any map of your so called Israel. Its supposed territory is defined by the 1949 UN armistice lines. Those lines were specifically not to be political or territorial boundaries. Where are Israel's real borders?

(COMMENT)

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan. The Peace Treaty (Israel-Jordan) was signed on 26 October 1994. THEN the Oslo Accord II (Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization {PLO}) was agreed on 28 September 1995 (after the Israeli-Jordan Treaty).

The Israeli-Jordan Treaty ignored any prior claim on the territory formerly sovereign to Jordan. Jordan agreed the boundary between Israel and Jordan would be recognized as an "administrative boundary between" Jordan and the territory which came under Israeli military government control in 1967. Any treatment of this line shall be without prejudice to the status of that territory.”

The PLO never entered into good-faith talks on the Permanent Status of Negotiations (including "settlements").

You can forget the Armistice Lines (except for historical reference purposes). The Armistice lines were only in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties was achieved (Article XII(2) of the Armistice Agreement) → 26 October 1994. On that date, the new agreement on the International Boundary took effect.

On the matter of the Gaza Strip, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew leaving the territory to the powers that be. The official blockade of Blockade of Gaza Strip took effect on January 2009, as an entirely separate action.

The blockade was established on similar grounds to Item 13, Part II Measures to prevent and combat terrorism, Annex Plan of Action to A/RES/60/288:

To step up national efforts and bilateral, subregional, regional and international cooperation, as appropriate, to improve border and customs controls in order to prevent and detect the movement of terrorists and prevent and detect the illicit traffic in, inter alia, small arms and light weapons, conventional ammunition and explosives.​

Most Respectfully,
R

With respect, to the West Bank, the Peace Treaty which established the International Boundary (without prejudice) between Israel and Jordan.

Neither has any authority over Palestine's borders.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Neither has any authority over Palestine's borders.

(COMMENT)

You (in some very strange way) have your concept twisted backward.

◈ The Israelis establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

◈ The Jordanians establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

◈ A peaceful agreement between the Israelis and the Jordanian establish the common demarcation between the territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

Now you are talking about the Arab Palestinians. I don't see where the Arab Palestinians established the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule. The old demarcations that established the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, were the British and the French. Their authority came from the Principle Allied Powers, and the demarcation was authorized to be established within such boundaries as may be fixed by them.

The territorial boundaries came from the British and the French. NOT from the Arab Palestinians. The Arab Palestinians WERE NOT involved with the decisions behind ANY territorial integrity nor any ground truth for the extension of sovereign rule.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Willing to live in peace (Not Arab Palestinians)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Neither has any authority over Palestine's borders.

(COMMENT)

You (in some very strange way) have your concept twisted backward.

◈ The Israelis establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

◈ The Jordanians establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

◈ A peaceful agreement between the Israelis and the Jordanian establish the common demarcation between the territory over which they extend sovereign rule.​

Now you are talking about the Arab Palestinians. I don't see where the Arab Palestinians established the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule. The old demarcations that established the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, were the British and the French. Their authority came from the Principle Allied Powers, and the demarcation was authorized to be established within such boundaries as may be fixed by them.

The territorial boundaries came from the British and the French. NOT from the Arab Palestinians. The Arab Palestinians WERE NOT involved with the decisions behind ANY territorial integrity nor any ground truth for the extension of sovereign rule.

Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The Israelis establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.◈ The Jordanians establish the ground truth for territory over which they extend sovereign rule.◈ A peaceful agreement between the Israelis and the Jordanian establish the common demarcation between the territory over which they extend sovereign rule.

They were both military occupations. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.