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None of those are in Gaza.
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I can’t imagine why but hotels in Gaza don’t get great reviews.
Awful place - Review of ArcMed Hotels Al Mashtal Gaza, Gaza City, Palestinian Territories - TripAdvisor
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Of course they are. This is where the envoys from Qatar and Iran stay while Hamas tries to wheedle more money from them and where the UNRWA people stay so they won't have to mingle with the masses. It's where the Hamas leadership parties after sending children to the fence in the hope of being shot.
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A Guide to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict by the United Church of Christ.
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A "Guide" to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict by the United Church of Christ
by Denis MacEoin
September 15, 2019 at 5:00 am
A "Guide" to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict by the United Church of Christ
- Titled, "Promoting a Just Peace in Palestine-Israel", and sub-headed "A Guide for United Church of Christ Faith Leaders", this toxic document is a desperately one-sided, inaccurate, and counter-factual exercise in futile politics.
- There is no room in it for a Jewish, Israeli or moderate Christian voice; just hatred of Israel and defence of the Palestinians who, time after time, have turned down generous offers of peace. The naïvety of the UCC is particularly striking in its choice to take at face value the Palestinian statement that if Israel ended its occupation, "Then they will see a new world in which there is no fear, no threat but rather security, justice and peace." That is simply bunkum. Sadly, the Palestinians have a history of regarding every goodwill gesture by Israel as a retreat, as the triumph of aggression over diplomacy -- as if to say: We shoot at Israelis and they leave; so, let's keep shooting!
- Palestinian terrorism against Israelis has continued up to 1967, right through the period of Israeli non-occupation. There were no "settlements" then. Rather, the Palestinians have always regarded all of Israel as one big "settlement". Just look at any Palestinian maps; they cover both the entirety of Israel and the Palestinian territories.
- The UCC boasts that it is "a just peace church", but instead of supporting peace and justice, it defends mass murderers. It complains about the defensive actions of the Jews but is knowingly silent about the horrors wrought by Palestinian wars and terrorism.
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Wafa Samir al-Biss personifies the deep dehumanization of Jews by Palestinian terrorists and those multitudes who praise and honor them. Ms Biss attempted to bomb Soroka Hospital in Beersheba, Israel -- the very hospital where, as a burn victim, she had been treated for months by Jewish and Muslim doctors and nurses. Pictured: Soroka Hospital. (Image source: Avishai Teicher/PikiWiki/Wikimedia Commons)
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I suppose that Hamas, flush with Iranian welfare dollars, feels emboldened and is performing their usual blustering chicken dance.
Israel appears poised to react quickly to Islamic terrorist rocket attacks. I suspect that Iran is prompting their proxy forces, Hamas and Islamic
gee-had, toward a confrontation as dead Sunni Islamists is in the interest of the Mullocrats.
Hamas leader: Israel will pay 'heavy price' if it attacks Gaza
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/268891
Hamas member Khalil al-Hayya claims Israeli threats to carry out military operation in Gaza do not scare the "resistance organizations".
Israel appears poised to react quickly to Islamic terrorist rocket attacks. I suspect that Iran is prompting their proxy forces, Hamas and Islamic
gee-had, toward a confrontation as dead Sunni Islamists is in the interest of the Mullocrats.
Hamas leader: Israel will pay 'heavy price' if it attacks Gaza
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/268891
Hamas member Khalil al-Hayya claims Israeli threats to carry out military operation in Gaza do not scare the "resistance organizations".
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Out of curiosity, what would you consider a "good" offer?
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US military aid to Israel is for weapons systems and missile defense, not on prisons.
But the real hypocrisy is that McCollum is pretending to care about children and our tax dollars. In fact, the only children that she seems to actually care about are those whom she can use as political pawns against Donald Trump or Israel.
Israel currently holds some 210 children, 27 between 14-16 and only 1 under 14, according to B'Tselem.
Let's compare that to the number of children locked up in the US in both youth detention facilities and adult prisons:
That's over 53,000 children locked up in the US, today.
4,600 kids are in in adult prisons, where they are far more likely to be sexually abused than adults are.
There are 500 kids 12 or under who are locked up!
These children are incarcerated with US tax dollars, whether on the state or federal level. (Yes, there are children in federal prisons as well.)
Yet somehow, McCollum's interest in children and tax dollars evaporates when the children are in her own back yard.
(full article online)
US Rep @BettyMcCollum04 doesn't care about tens of thousands of American kids who are locked up - only a few Palestinian kids ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News
But the real hypocrisy is that McCollum is pretending to care about children and our tax dollars. In fact, the only children that she seems to actually care about are those whom she can use as political pawns against Donald Trump or Israel.
Israel currently holds some 210 children, 27 between 14-16 and only 1 under 14, according to B'Tselem.
Let's compare that to the number of children locked up in the US in both youth detention facilities and adult prisons:
That's over 53,000 children locked up in the US, today.
4,600 kids are in in adult prisons, where they are far more likely to be sexually abused than adults are.
There are 500 kids 12 or under who are locked up!
These children are incarcerated with US tax dollars, whether on the state or federal level. (Yes, there are children in federal prisons as well.)
Yet somehow, McCollum's interest in children and tax dollars evaporates when the children are in her own back yard.
(full article online)
US Rep @BettyMcCollum04 doesn't care about tens of thousands of American kids who are locked up - only a few Palestinian kids ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News
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In addition, this ambiguity, encourages those who propose that Area C – including its settlements – be taken over by the Palestinian Authority (PA), along with eastern Jerusalem, thereby moving Israel’s boundaries back to the 1949 armistice lines and establishing a second (or perhaps third in Gaza) sovereign Palestinian state. Not only would this be a strategic security disaster and imperil Jews living there, but it will also have serious political and economic ramifications.
It would mean that Jews would no longer be permitted to build in their communities there, since approval would be denied by the PA. Jewish communities and the roads between them would be vulnerable to terrorist attacks. PA-controlled checkpoints would cripple Israel’s transportation system. Tourism would plummet. Ben-Gurion Airport and major population centers would be within short missile range of PA territory. Israel would no longer control access to water aquifers and resources; this would affect Israel’s entire economic system. Housing prices would increase drastically, since less land would be available for growth.
Ironically, withdrawal of Israeli control would condemn Arab Palestinians to Hamas control and promote violent power struggles between warring Muslim factions. This chaotic situation would enable other countries and Islamic militants in the region to join the conflict and would likely destabilize the entire region. In addition, it would further Syrian aspirations to recover the Golan Heights, and encourage Islamic militants – such as ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah – to continue attacking Israel.
This scenario is the danger of the “two-state-solution” (TSS). The TSS would not resolve any Arab and Palestinian objections to Israel’s existence as declared in the PLO Covenant and Hamas Charter; it would neither change their fundamental narrative of the Nakba, and the “Right-of-Return” for Arab “refugees,” nor their demand that Israel return to the UN-proposed plan of 1947. The TSS means, therefore, ending Israel’s existence.
On the other hand, declaring Israeli sovereignty over Area C – annexation – would confirm and protect the right of Jews to live in their homeland and it would promote a constructive, productive future for all residents of the area. It would eliminate the “military occupation” by the IDF/COGAT. It would allow Israel’s security forces to apprehend terrorists in PA towns and cities. It would strengthen Israel’s security and would enable Arabs in the area to live in peace and enjoy economic and social benefits.
(full article online)
Area C: ‘Occupation’ or annexation
It would mean that Jews would no longer be permitted to build in their communities there, since approval would be denied by the PA. Jewish communities and the roads between them would be vulnerable to terrorist attacks. PA-controlled checkpoints would cripple Israel’s transportation system. Tourism would plummet. Ben-Gurion Airport and major population centers would be within short missile range of PA territory. Israel would no longer control access to water aquifers and resources; this would affect Israel’s entire economic system. Housing prices would increase drastically, since less land would be available for growth.
Ironically, withdrawal of Israeli control would condemn Arab Palestinians to Hamas control and promote violent power struggles between warring Muslim factions. This chaotic situation would enable other countries and Islamic militants in the region to join the conflict and would likely destabilize the entire region. In addition, it would further Syrian aspirations to recover the Golan Heights, and encourage Islamic militants – such as ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah – to continue attacking Israel.
This scenario is the danger of the “two-state-solution” (TSS). The TSS would not resolve any Arab and Palestinian objections to Israel’s existence as declared in the PLO Covenant and Hamas Charter; it would neither change their fundamental narrative of the Nakba, and the “Right-of-Return” for Arab “refugees,” nor their demand that Israel return to the UN-proposed plan of 1947. The TSS means, therefore, ending Israel’s existence.
On the other hand, declaring Israeli sovereignty over Area C – annexation – would confirm and protect the right of Jews to live in their homeland and it would promote a constructive, productive future for all residents of the area. It would eliminate the “military occupation” by the IDF/COGAT. It would allow Israel’s security forces to apprehend terrorists in PA towns and cities. It would strengthen Israel’s security and would enable Arabs in the area to live in peace and enjoy economic and social benefits.
(full article online)
Area C: ‘Occupation’ or annexation
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There are a lot of benefits to annexation of Area C, for everyone who lives there. And no real problems which are not already problems.
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Knowing him, if Israel would agree to self-destruct and just hand over its entire country to the Palestinians. After all, he recently called the city of Haifa "occupied."
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RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
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There will always be those that are not satisfied with any political arrangement on any Question of Palestine.
There is no reasonable expectation that can be given:
At this point, the positions held by the Arab Palestinian Negotiation Affairs Department and absolute minimum, and all that is required in the negotiation is Israeli acceptance and surrender.
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Most Respectfully,
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There will always be those that are not satisfied with any political arrangement on any Question of Palestine.
(COMMENT)
There is no reasonable expectation that can be given:
◈ That no matter the arrangement, the Arab Palestinians will live in peace along side of the Jewish Community.
◈ That there is no agreement protection. Once the Israelis surrender the State (or any portion there of), if the Arab Palestinians do not live up to their side of the contract, there is no reliable enforcement mechanism and reason to believe that the Arab Palestinians will make restitution to the degree that the Jewish Community is whole again.
◈ There is no reason to believe that the impact on any agreement that places the mechanisms of that made Israel the most developed country in the region will not have a downward spirialling effect on the economy, commerce, scientific advances and trade with the great ecomoniesIsrael has now.
◈ There is no reason to believe that the unsavory and nathereous contract the Arab Palestinians have established will be neutralized and disbanded.
There is no real personality within the current leadership of the Arab Palestinians that is considered having unquestioned honesty, integrity, and good moral character from which to initiate good that negotiations.◈ That there is no agreement protection. Once the Israelis surrender the State (or any portion there of), if the Arab Palestinians do not live up to their side of the contract, there is no reliable enforcement mechanism and reason to believe that the Arab Palestinians will make restitution to the degree that the Jewish Community is whole again.
✧ The 2005 unilaterial withdrawal from the Gaza Strip demonstrates that the UN cannot be a trustworthy or effective garentueer for any arrangment made.
✧ There is no method of repossession that can be implemented. Once lost, there is no means of recovery.
✧ There is no method of repossession that can be implemented. Once lost, there is no means of recovery.
◈ There is no reason to believe that the impact on any agreement that places the mechanisms of that made Israel the most developed country in the region will not have a downward spirialling effect on the economy, commerce, scientific advances and trade with the great ecomoniesIsrael has now.
◈ There is no reason to believe that the unsavory and nathereous contract the Arab Palestinians have established will be neutralized and disbanded.
At this point, the positions held by the Arab Palestinian Negotiation Affairs Department and absolute minimum, and all that is required in the negotiation is Israeli acceptance and surrender.
.........
Most Respectfully,
R
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