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All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss 2
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talk and never any evidence.
Not so. The rule of nationality and state succession in international law, and resolution 181 (that Israel invoked in its declaration of independence) states that the citizens of a former state get the citizenship of the successor state upon the change in sovereignty.Empty words Tinmore.
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What former State was there before Israel?invoked
Not so. The rule of nationality and state succession in international law, and resolution 181 (that Israel invoked in its declaration of independence) states that the citizens of a former state get the citizenship of the successor state upon the change in sovereignty.
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What former State was there before Israel?
The one that Israel has been lying about never existing.
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What was its name?
When did it become sovereign?
Who were their leaders through the centuries?
What currency did it use?
Which countries recognized this country you are talking about?
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What was its name?
When did it become sovereign?
Who were their leaders through the centuries?
What currency did it use?
Which countries recognized this country you are talking about?
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]
State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia
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So, what do you have?
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You did not answer the question.So, what do you have?
Merely went to your old theories, which are nothing more than theories and your endless wish to destroy Israel by lying about the treaties.
The Mandate for Palestine, the region, was to be Israel for the Jews to rebuild on their own ancient homeland.
The British chose the name Palestine, not Israel, to insult the Jews, as they never had any intention for the Jews to rebuild their Nation.
The Arabs never did build a State, or anything else, on that Jewish land after they invaded it from the 7th century on.
The Quran itself says the land belongs to the Jews.
The "Government" of Palestine were the British, who won the war over the Ottomans, and were to administer it until the Jews were ready to call it a State. Same thing the British did with Iraq, same thing he French did with Lebanon and Syria during those Mandates.
You do know all of that.
You cannot accept it.
You have a serious problem there.
Not accepting Israel as a legally rebuilt State has cost too many lives already. Something that too many do not care about, care only to make sure that the Jews return to be Stateless.
That is quite a nightmare you have. Nightmare because it is never going to happen again.
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WOW, so many Israeli BS talking points.You did not answer the question.
Merely went to your old theories, which are nothing more than theories and your endless wish to destroy Israel by lying about the treaties.
The Mandate for Palestine, the region, was to be Israel for the Jews to rebuild on their own ancient homeland.
The British chose the name Palestine, not Israel, to insult the Jews, as they never had any intention for the Jews to rebuild their Nation.
The Arabs never did build a State, or anything else, on that Jewish land after they invaded it from the 7th century on.
The Quran itself says the land belongs to the Jews.
The "Government" of Palestine were the British, who won the war over the Ottomans, and were to administer it until the Jews were ready to call it a State. Same thing the British did with Iraq, same thing he French did with Lebanon and Syria during those Mandates.
You do know all of that.
You cannot accept it.
You have a serious problem there.
Not accepting Israel as a legally rebuilt State has cost too many lives already. Something that too many do not care about, care only to make sure that the Jews return to be Stateless.
That is quite a nightmare you have. Nightmare because it is never going to happen again.
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That is your BS you cannot deal with.WOW, so many Israeli BS talking points.
You not being able to deal with it does not hurt Israel for a second.
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In December 2021, the Palestine News Network (SHFA) released a poll that found an astonishing 93% of Jerusalem’s Palestinians prefer Israeli to Palestinian rule.
These results were significantly higher than a previous survey done by the Bethlehem-based Palestinian Center for Public Opinion released in August 2015, which found that 52% of Jerusalem Palestinians would choose “Israeli citizenship with equal rights,” while only 42% would want to become citizens of a future Palestinian state.
Considering that the hegemonic political environment among Palestinians would tend to discourage the overt expression of such views, these results speak to a grossly under-reported reality. Though by no means Israeli patriots, Jerusalem’s Palestinians – like Arab Israelis – see the advantages of living in a successful, pluralist democracy with a Western standard of living and social services, over those of the authoritarian, corrupt and poorer Palestinian alternative.
In contrast to the much-propagated narrative, while not publicly celebrating 55 years from to the unification of the city, most Palestinian Jerusalemites would nonetheless elect to remain under Israeli jurisdiction. Of course, those who champion Palestinian rights are under no obligation to take into account the views of Jerusalem’s Palestinians.
Happy Jerusalem Day!
(full article online )
www.jpost.com
These results were significantly higher than a previous survey done by the Bethlehem-based Palestinian Center for Public Opinion released in August 2015, which found that 52% of Jerusalem Palestinians would choose “Israeli citizenship with equal rights,” while only 42% would want to become citizens of a future Palestinian state.
Do Palestinians want to move to Jerusalem?
A November 2011 poll by the same organization discovered that an amazing 42% of Jerusalem Palestinians would want to relocate into Israel if their present neighborhood became part of a Palestinian state.Considering that the hegemonic political environment among Palestinians would tend to discourage the overt expression of such views, these results speak to a grossly under-reported reality. Though by no means Israeli patriots, Jerusalem’s Palestinians – like Arab Israelis – see the advantages of living in a successful, pluralist democracy with a Western standard of living and social services, over those of the authoritarian, corrupt and poorer Palestinian alternative.
In contrast to the much-propagated narrative, while not publicly celebrating 55 years from to the unification of the city, most Palestinian Jerusalemites would nonetheless elect to remain under Israeli jurisdiction. Of course, those who champion Palestinian rights are under no obligation to take into account the views of Jerusalem’s Palestinians.
Happy Jerusalem Day!
(full article online )
Do Palestinians prefer united Jerusalem under Israeli rule? - opinion
There is much debate over the existence and route of the Jerusalem Day flag march which is planned to go through Damascus Gate.
www.jpost.com
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An Obama-era report found that, years ago, there were only about 20,000 Palestinian Arab refugees from the 1948-1949 Arab war against Israel – instead of the 5.3 million that UNRWA was falsely claiming at that time, by fraudulently padding numbers and improperly including descendants. (See “U.S. Report Finds Only 20,000 Palestinian Refugees in the World,” Israel Hayom, July 18, 2018.) The alleged numbers are even fewer or non-existent today – yet Rashida Tlaib’s resolution now absurdly claims that there are 7 million Palestinian Arab refugees today – including 5.7 million (illegitimately) supported by UNRWA. (See also “Morton Klein: Trump Wisely Ends U.S. Funding to UNRWA,” by Morton Klein, Breitbart, Sept. 6, 2018.)
Tlaib’s resolution also ignores the Egyptian, Syrian, Algerian and other Arab national origin of “Palestinian Arabs.” Arabs flooded into Israel in pre-state years to enjoy Jewish pioneers’ development of the previously barren land; to escape Egyptian military drafts and Algerian wars; and to work for the British mandatory government (which discriminated against Jews and instead imported Arab workers). Common “Palestinian” Arab last names are al Masri (meaning from Egypt) and Mughrabi (meaning from North Africa).
Under the U.S. and International Definitions of “Refugees,” Palestinian Arabs Never Qualified as “Refugees”: UNRWA’s unique definition of Palestinian Arab “refugees” counted any Arab who lived or worked in Israel for a mere two years as a “refugee.” UNRWA’s definition is contrary to U.S. law (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)) and all other international definitions, which require that a refugee must have “habitually resided” in a country to count as a refugee; two years of residence or work does not qualify. In addition, corrupt UNRWA added to its relief rolls hundreds of thousands of Arabs who never lived or worked in Israel, to try to justify contributions to UNRWA and protect thousands of UNRWA jobs. Under a normal definition of refugees, which does not include descendants, there are virtually no Palestinian Arab refugees today.
In addition, the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act’s “persecutor exception” (also known as the “persecutor bar”) declares that “The term ‘refugee’ does not include any person who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” 8 U.S.C. §§ 1101(a)(42). International refugee law contains a similar persecutor bar. Thus, no Arab who participated in, incited or assisted in persecuting, attacking or inciting hatred against the Jewish people, at any time, qualifies as a refugee. Arab rioters who attacked their Jewish neighbors in pre-state Israel; government officials, Imams, and teachers who incite or pay Arabs to murder Jews cannot legally be refugees. Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists who fire rockets at Jews indiscriminately cannot be refugees. Nor can tens of thousands of Hamas-incited Gazans who attempted to breach the border fence with knives and maps showing the routes to Jewish kindergartens in their hands, who were attempting to slaughter Jewish children.
Further, in order to legally qualify as a refugee, one must have left a country due to “persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution.” (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)) Because Palestinian Arab refugees left Israel at the request of Arab leaders and governments, to enable the slaughter of Jews, and because while Israel urged the Arabs to remain and live together in peace, the “Palestinian refugees” also do not meet this legal requirement.
In sum, there are no valid Palestinian Arab refugees today.
(full article online)
Tlaib’s resolution also ignores the Egyptian, Syrian, Algerian and other Arab national origin of “Palestinian Arabs.” Arabs flooded into Israel in pre-state years to enjoy Jewish pioneers’ development of the previously barren land; to escape Egyptian military drafts and Algerian wars; and to work for the British mandatory government (which discriminated against Jews and instead imported Arab workers). Common “Palestinian” Arab last names are al Masri (meaning from Egypt) and Mughrabi (meaning from North Africa).
Under the U.S. and International Definitions of “Refugees,” Palestinian Arabs Never Qualified as “Refugees”: UNRWA’s unique definition of Palestinian Arab “refugees” counted any Arab who lived or worked in Israel for a mere two years as a “refugee.” UNRWA’s definition is contrary to U.S. law (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)) and all other international definitions, which require that a refugee must have “habitually resided” in a country to count as a refugee; two years of residence or work does not qualify. In addition, corrupt UNRWA added to its relief rolls hundreds of thousands of Arabs who never lived or worked in Israel, to try to justify contributions to UNRWA and protect thousands of UNRWA jobs. Under a normal definition of refugees, which does not include descendants, there are virtually no Palestinian Arab refugees today.
In addition, the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act’s “persecutor exception” (also known as the “persecutor bar”) declares that “The term ‘refugee’ does not include any person who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” 8 U.S.C. §§ 1101(a)(42). International refugee law contains a similar persecutor bar. Thus, no Arab who participated in, incited or assisted in persecuting, attacking or inciting hatred against the Jewish people, at any time, qualifies as a refugee. Arab rioters who attacked their Jewish neighbors in pre-state Israel; government officials, Imams, and teachers who incite or pay Arabs to murder Jews cannot legally be refugees. Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists who fire rockets at Jews indiscriminately cannot be refugees. Nor can tens of thousands of Hamas-incited Gazans who attempted to breach the border fence with knives and maps showing the routes to Jewish kindergartens in their hands, who were attempting to slaughter Jewish children.
Further, in order to legally qualify as a refugee, one must have left a country due to “persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution.” (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)) Because Palestinian Arab refugees left Israel at the request of Arab leaders and governments, to enable the slaughter of Jews, and because while Israel urged the Arabs to remain and live together in peace, the “Palestinian refugees” also do not meet this legal requirement.
In sum, there are no valid Palestinian Arab refugees today.
(full article online)
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There is no law forbidding non-Muslim prayer on the Temple Mount. In fact, the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Jewish prayer several times. But the real decision-making power is in the hands of the police – and for them, there is always danger when non-Muslims pray on the Mount.
Even advocating for the freedom of all nations to visit and pray peacefully on the Temple Mount has become a dangerous occupation.
In 2014, an Arab terrorist shot me at point-blank range four times in the chest in an attempted assassination because of my advocacy on behalf of our holy Temple Mount. I survived, miraculously with God’s help, and I have not stopped fighting for the Temple Mount through my organization, the Shalom Jerusalem Foundation, because our holy Temple Mount continues to be desecrated by violent rioters whose sole purpose is to cause harm to security forces, limit the freedom of worship and curb access to holy places.
Please understand. It’s not about territory and it’s not about politics. It’s simply about destroying the 3,000-year-old holiness that permeates the entire Temple Mount.
The status quo is not acceptable.
Fifty-five years is too long. The Temple Mount is our responsibility.
Why shouldn’t all nations have the freedom to pray on the Mount in peace?
We must continue to advocate so we can restore the sounds of holiness once more to our holy Temple Mount.
(full article online)
www.jpost.com
Even advocating for the freedom of all nations to visit and pray peacefully on the Temple Mount has become a dangerous occupation.
In 2014, an Arab terrorist shot me at point-blank range four times in the chest in an attempted assassination because of my advocacy on behalf of our holy Temple Mount. I survived, miraculously with God’s help, and I have not stopped fighting for the Temple Mount through my organization, the Shalom Jerusalem Foundation, because our holy Temple Mount continues to be desecrated by violent rioters whose sole purpose is to cause harm to security forces, limit the freedom of worship and curb access to holy places.
Please understand. It’s not about territory and it’s not about politics. It’s simply about destroying the 3,000-year-old holiness that permeates the entire Temple Mount.
The status quo is not acceptable.
Fifty-five years is too long. The Temple Mount is our responsibility.
Why shouldn’t all nations have the freedom to pray on the Mount in peace?
We must continue to advocate so we can restore the sounds of holiness once more to our holy Temple Mount.
(full article online)
We should restore the sounds of holiness to Jerusalem’s Temple Mount
How much more will we allow this to happen before we wake up and change the music?
www.jpost.com
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(From left) Ambassador Dr. Sheikh Abdallah bin Ahmad Al Khalifa, Ambassador Eitan Na’eh and Ambassador Steve Bondy at a Yom Haatzmaut event in Bahrain on May 26, 2022. Photo: Provided.
The Israeli Embassy in Bahrain hosted on Thursday the first celebration of Israel’s Independence Day to be held in a Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) country.
The GCC states include Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman.
Hundreds of Bahraini government officials and business leaders attended the event, as well as heads of major companies from Israel’s oil and gas, cyber, manufacturing, fintech, high-tech, pharmaceutical and logistics sectors. Israeli “Fauda” star and singer Tsahi Halevi gave a performance, and Israeli chef Doron Sasson prepared a special menu combining Bahraini and Israeli dishes. The band of Bahrain’s Ministry of Interior played the Israeli and Bahraini national anthems.
The evening, which highlighted the ties that have developed between Bahrain and Israel since the signing of the Abraham Accords, included a recorded message from Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, who opened the Israeli Embassy in Bahrain in September 2021. There were also speeches by Ambassador Dr. Sheikh Abdallah bin Ahmad Al Khalifa, undersecretary in Bahrain’s Foreign Ministry, and Israel’s first Ambassador to Bahrain, Eitan Na’eh.
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Israel Hosts Its First Independence Day Celebration in Gulf Region
(From left) Ambassador Dr. Sheikh Abdallah bin Ahmad Al Khalifa, Ambassador Eitan Na’eh and Ambassador Steve Bondy at a Yom …
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There is a flip side to saying that anti-Zionism is antisemitism.
It is that Judaism is inherently Zionist.
Some posters I made .... and there are plenty more examples.
It is that Judaism is inherently Zionist.
Some posters I made .... and there are plenty more examples.
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