All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss 2

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: The Palestinian Paradox
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,


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You really don't know what colonialism actually means.

"For true colonialism to exist two conditions are necessary. The land held as a colony must have no real political independence from the ‘mother country, but also the relationship must be one of forthright exploitation. The entire reason for having colonies is to increase the wealth and welfare of the colonial power, either by extracting resources, material or labour from the colony more cheaply than they could be bought on a free market, or by ensuring a market for one’s own goods at advantageous rates."​

SOURCE: The Routledge Dictionary of Politics • 3d edition published Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004. © 2004 David Robertson pp 89​

There is more to the concept of colonialism than this excerpt. But I thought this passage might help you. The Principal Allied Powers did not take control of the Occupied Enemy Territory and place them under civil Administration for exploitation. It was brought under Mandate control "for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations." The Allied Powers were politically well-meaning, but Arab Palestinians want the entire silver platter; not just a portion. Look at all the territories formerly under the Mandate. Point out to me which one is more developed than Israel. Point out to me, which one has more political and civil rights than Israel.

Look around and ask the Arab Palestinian, which country in the region would they like to emulate.

Most Respectfully,
R

Look around and ask the Arab Palestinian, which country in the region would they like to emulate.

Good question. How many Arab countries are not plagued by foreign intervention?

 

[Hollie]

Good question. How many Arab countries are not plagued by foreign intervention?

Can you cut and paste a youtube video that defines foreign intervention?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: The Palestinian Paradox
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Good question. How many Arab countries are not plagued by foreign intervention?

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Lebanon​

22 November 1943 (from League of Nations mandate under French administration)​

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Syria​

17 April 1946 (from League of Nations mandate under French administration)​

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Jordan​

25 May 1946 (from League of Nations mandate under British administration)​

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Egypt​

28 February 1922 (from UK protectorate status; the military-led revolution that began on 23 July 1952 led to a republic being declared on 18 June 1953 and all British troops withdrawn on 18 June 1956);​

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I don't think that you can look in any direction from the roof of the Plaza Hotel in Ramallah and see a country that was not under the authority of a foreign power and released in the 20th Century.

Can you? Next time you're in Ramallah, test this.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Can you cut and paste a youtube video that defines foreign intervention?

P F Tinmore replied:






Is the western nation’s contribution to the UNRWA welfare fraud “foreign intervention?

If so, refuse the welfare money, Show some integrity or is that too much to expect?

 

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While that information is not inaccurate, it does not tell the whole story. As explained in an article last year by Sue Surkes, the problem – like the potential ways to address it – is considerably more complex than Bateman’s reporting suggests.

“Jordan is one of the most water-starved countries in the world. It draws nearly 60 percent of its water from underground aquifers, extracting at twice the rate that the groundwater can be renewed. The rest comes from rivers and streams.

In the capital, Amman, water is supplied to rooftop tanks once a week; other areas of the country are supplied even less frequently.

According to one estimate, Jordan’s water is enough to sustain two million people, in a country that has close to ten million — a figure swelled over the past decade by 1.5 million refugees, most of them fleeing civil war in neighboring Syria.”

The week before Bateman’s reports appeared Israel signed a deal to double the amount of fresh water it supplies to Jordan.

“The two countries agreed then that Israel would sell 50 million cubic meters of water a year to Jordan, doubling what it already supplies. […]

“This is what good neighbors do, in line with Israel’s policy of connections with other countries,” Foreign Minister Yair Lapid said.

Jordan’s cooperation with Israel on water predates their 1994 peace treaty. Israel is also a hot, dry country, but desalination technology has opened opportunities for selling freshwater.

The additional water Israel will provide will come from the Sea of Galilee, said Shaked Eliahu, a spokeswoman for [Energy minister] Elharrar.”

The BBC has yet to inform its audiences of that new agreement between Israel and Jordan.

Notably, Bateman’s in vogue cross-platform reports a week later about a photoshoot near the Dead Sea by an American photographer (who flew in specially for the event) that was intended “to highlight environmental change” and “draw attention to its dramatically receding shoreline” failed to make any mention of the relevant subject of the chronic water shortage afflicting Jordan as a contributing factor to the reduction in the amount of fresh water reaching the Dead Sea from the Sea of Galilee.

(full article online)

BBC’s Dead Sea reports fail to tell the whole story

On October 18th the BBC Jerusalem bureau’s Tom Bateman produced audio (from 45:23 here) and filmed reports about a photoshoot by American photographer Spencer

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[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

I am excerpting from "The Silent Zionist Prayers - Containment Instead of Confrontation" by Ahmed Samir Quneita, published on October 31, 2021 in Arabic. Quenita

is a Master's student in Diplomacy and International Relations and who specializes in Syrian matters.

I post his writing so that we all are presented with the terminology and the framing of the true conceptualization of the Islamic opposition to Zionism.

He is bothered by "Zionist plans to Judaize Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa Mosque, through a series of provocative activities against Muslims and Arabs" so as "to impose a new reality that enhances the Zionist presence inside the courtyards of the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque at the expense of the original Palestinian right". The goal is "temporal and spatial division of the Al-Aqsa Mosque - similar to what is happening in the Ibrahimi Mosque in the city of Hebron - marking the establishment of the alleged temple on the ruins of the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque".

He is upset with "the official Arab political apostasy and the rush towards normalization with the occupying Zionist entity":
"What is new this time...is allowing the establishment of 'silent Talmudic prayers' inside the courtyards of Al-Aqsa Mosque, after these rituals were forbidden to the herds of rapists who stormed Al-Aqsa...this prohibition of 'silent prayers' was not related to Zionist judicial rulings or legal regulations, but rather in response to security assessments presented by the occupation police to the official authorities regarding the possibility of confrontations between Al-Mourabitat al-Quds and the Zionist police forces...such rituals provoke the religious feelings of Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims."

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Further, as the CST’s Dave Rich and others noted, IHRA is a non-legally binding definition, full of caveats making it clear that, in any situation where IHRA is considering being applied, the overall context, such as the legal protections for academic freedom that exist in a country, must be considered. As Michael Whine, one of IHRA’s co-authors, made clear in a piece at Fathom, the definition “was to be a guide for better understanding antisemitism, not a speech code etched in stone”. To strike the necessary balance, he stressed, they added the important, conditional phrase, “depending on the context”, and stated explicitly that “criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic”.

The Palestinian signatories then, ignoring that IHRA caveat about mere criticism of Israel not being antisemitic, write “the IHRA definition will not protect Jews from antisemitism, but will censure legitimate critique of Israel“. That sentence links to a statement by the antisemitic group ‘Jewish Voices for Peace’ – a movement so extreme that they partner with terror and terror-affiliated groups, and recently celebrated the escape of terrorists serving sentences for the murder of Israeli Jews.

The Palestinian signatories also seem to believe that they understand Judaism more than Jews themselves by claiming, in the letter, that IHRA “falsely conflates Judaism with Zionism”, ignoring the fact that the overwhelming majority of Jews see Israel as intrinsically linked to their Jewish identity. The letter also complains that the IHRA definition will only increase discrimination against Palestinian and pro-Palestinian scholars, citing, as a poster-boy for those ‘falsely accused’ of antisemitism, Professor David Miller, writing that “David Miller, was recently “accused of antisemitism over comments about Israel and fired”.

Miller of course was not fired due to “comments about Israel”, but, rather, because he’s consistently peddled classic antisemitic tropes, evoking the idea that Jews and Jewish groups in the UK are part of a global Zionist conspiracy to push an Islamophobic agenda. The letter also notes that “Prof Miller…accused the university of bowing to pressure from the Israel lobby”, a fact contradicted by Miller himself, who recently admitted that the original complaint against him was filed by one of his own Jewish students.

The misrepresentations and lies in the letter continue, as it argues that the “IHRA definition has been widely disputed since its inception”. This ignores the fact that it’s been adopted by over 30 (democratic) countries, including the EU Council, Parliament and Commission, Special Rapporteur for freedom of religion or belief Ahmed Shaheed, UN Secretary General Antonia Guterres and scores of municipalities, law enforcement agencies and universities.

(full article online)

The Guardian Palsplains antisemitism

For the third time in two years, the Guardian published a letter ("If we endorse the IHRA definition of antisemitism we put at risk Australia’s academic free

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[Sixties Fan]

 

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While the BBC’s film supposedly ticks the ‘impartiality box’ by including a much shorter interview with a young man who is going to meet his legal obligation to serve in the IDF, it is obvious that the actual aim of this report was the context-free promotion of an act of publicity-generating political activism that is misrepresented as ‘conscientious objection’ despite the fact that last month in a different interview Perets stated:

“I decided not to go before the conscientious objectors committee, a medical committee, or the IDF mental health officer,” says Perets, “because it is important for me to stand by my principles and not to create the impression that I am the problem and I should be exempted [from service]. I chose to go to jail and take part in a campaign because I hope it will reach the most people.” [emphasis added]

The editorial decision to feature a person who has deliberately broken the law in her own country in material promoted worldwide would appear to be at odds with the BBC editorial guidelines stating “[w]e must ensure that we do not glamorise, condone or encourage criminal behaviour”. Of course had Ms Perets chosen not to comply with any other Israeli law, she would have been of no interest to BBC journalists who bother less and less to hide the political motivations behind their reporting.

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BBC News misrepresents political activism as ‘conscientious objection’

Israeli law requires all citizens of relevant age to serve in the defence forces unless they have been granted exemption. Anyone failing to fulfil that obligati

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[rylah]

 

[Sixties Fan]

( Christians who cannot help themselves. Every Jew must convert to Christianity )

Goncalo used his association with her, including her Jewish family name, to deceive Israeli authorities, presenting himself as a Jew and gaining entry into the country. He later changed his name again, this time to Ariel Katzenberg.

Goncalo later decided to bring over the rest of his family. His parents and younger brothers made it into the country using deceitful means and settled in a haredi community, where they claimed to be descendants of a rabbinic family from Argentina. The children were enrolled in Torani schools, while at home they continued to live as practicing Christians – proclaiming in internal Christian forums their faith in Jesus

At this stage, Katzenberg began preaching Christianity to the people around him. When details of his missionary activity reached Yad L’Achim, activists were shocked to discover his true identity and to learn that one of his brothers, who presented himself as Yehoyakim, was learning in a Talmud Torah in a large haredi city.


"The extent to which Goncalo succeeded in 'passing' can be seen from the fact that he was accepted as a kosher witness in a Beis Din, where he testified as to the Jewishness of a fellow Christian missionary who had similarly masqueraded as a Jew and was seeking to be accepted among Am Yisrael," Yad L'Achim said.

(full article online)

Missionary family outed in haredi neighborhood in Jerusalem

Investigation by anti-assimilation group exposes missionary family living in Ramat Shlomo neighborhood in Jerusalem.

www.israelnationalnews.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

However, an examination of the facts shows that the PA is the primary and almost sole environmental contaminator in Judea and Samaria on multiple levels.

The Prat Stream is polluted from sewage coming from Al-Bireh. The Shiban Stream is polluted by the slaughterhouses of Ramallah. Nahal Alexander is contaminated by PA oil mills in Samaria. The Hebron River is polluted by Hebron’s marble industry.

The Ramallah municipality poured massive mounds of trash into an abandoned quarry in the Binyamin region. More than 10,000 cubic feet of garbage were dumped there for weeks and then set on fire. The fire burned for almost a week, and the smoke reached the outskirts of Jerusalem.

PA residents established a huge car wreck lot in the heart of a nature reserve in Samaria. Hundreds of similar sites are scattered throughout the PA-administered areas of Judea and Samaria, in almost every Arab village.

An illegal Arab quarry, covering thousands of dunams in eastern Gush Etzion, is the largest quarry between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. The extent of the environmental and scenic damage this quarry causes is indescribable, and this is only one of many more within the Palestinian Authority, without supervision, without control, and without rehabilitation operations.

A nature reserve controlled by the Palestinian Authority in the Judean Desert is crossed by miles of roads and pocked by hundreds of illegal structures.

A tire-burning site near Ramallah pollutes the area for the wire extracted from the tires.

The sewage from Bir Zeit University, from the town, and from nearby villages, flows openly as a stream of raw sewage in Samaria, without any treatment.

Eitan Melet, Field Coordinator for Judea and Samaria for Regavim, an NGO dedicated to the protection of Israel’s national lands and resources, documented these enviromental crimes and accused Shtayyah of “lying to the whole world.”

“The PA has zero control over the environment in Judea and Samaria, polluting and suffocating both Israeli and Arab communities,” he charged.

(full article online)

Who’s Polluting Judea and Samaria? | United with Israel

An examination of the facts shows that the Palestinian Authority is the primary and almost sole environmental contaminator in Judea and Samaria on multiple levels.

unitedwithisrael.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

Sigd Sameach! A very inconvenient holiday for "anti-Zionists"

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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Whitewashing the PA’s “Pay-for-Slay” policy

Since the PA was created, it has spent billions of dollars paying monthly salaries to imprisoned and released terrorists and allowances to wounded terrorists and the families of dead terrorists. These payments are collectively know as the PA’s “Pay-for-Slay” policy.

In 2018, 2019, and 2020, the PA cumulatively spent no less than 1.85 billion shekels ($577,048,429/ €495,453,782) on salaries and allowances to terrorists and their families.

The PA terror reward payments are a direct incentive for Palestinians to participate in terror. The 2018 US Taylor Force Act described the payments as an “incentive to commit acts of terror.” The goal of the Israeli law, also passed in 2018, is to reduce “terror activity and to cancel the financial incentive for terror activity.”

While the PA payments clearly breach numerus UNSC resolutions that deal with the international war on terror and even UNSC 2334, when addressing the payments Wennesland merely noted that “Israelis and Palestinians should urgently resolve the impasse over the prisoner payments,” not condemning it with even one word.

By minimizing the multi-billion dollar PA terror reward policy to mere “impasse over the prisoner payments,” Wennesland failed to convey to the world the true nature of the PA’s terror funding policy.

The PA terror rewards are far from being mere “prisoner payments.” Rather they are financial incentives and rewards for terror against Israel. The recipients of the payments include hundreds of murderers responsible for the deaths of thousands of Israeli civilians. As a direct result of these payments, the US, Australia, Holland, Canada, and others have stopped providing the PA with direct aid. Israel deducts the amount spent by the PA from the taxes it gives to the PA.

But Israel is not responsible for the financial difficulties of the PA. In order to reopen the doors to renewed aid and the taxes deducted by Israel (cumulatively, hundreds of millions of shekels/dollars/euro per year), all the PA has to do is stop squandering its money paying rewards for terror.

Whitewashing and diminishing the true nature of the PA’s “Pay-for-Slay” policy and referring to Israel’s refusal to fund it as an “impasse” does not and will not promote peace. It does however demonstrate the bias of the UNSCO against Israel, even on subjects like terror financing, which usually enjoy wide consensus.

Were UNSCO interested in promoting peace it would have condemned the PA’s rewarding terror, urged the PA to stop the program and use the money for its law-abiding citizens, and not ask Israel to participate in “resolving the impasse.”

Ignoring the constant PA incitement​

When it came to addressing the call of UNSC 2334 for the parties to refrain from “acts of provocation, incitement and inflammatory rhetoric,” Wennesland merely cited two examples, one from an Israeli Member of Parliament and the other from a senior Hamas official. The impression given, obviously, is that PA officials and other Palestinian leaders and groups are not involved in the constant incitement. Clearly, while relying on sundry reports about Israeli wrong-doing, Wennesland chose to positively ignore the materials regularly exposed by Palestinian Media Watch that document the PA’s incitement.

(full article online)

Whitewashing PA terror promotion in the UN Security Council | PMW Analysis

In 2018, 2019, and 2020, the PA cumulatively spent no less than 1.85 billion shekels on salaries and allowances to terrorists and their families

palwatch.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: The Palestinian Paradox
⁜→ Sixties Fan, et al,

While that information is not inaccurate, it does not tell the whole story. As explained in an article last year by Sue Surkes, the problem – like the potential ways to address it – is considerably more complex than Bateman’s reporting suggests.

“Jordan is one of the most water-starved countries in the world. It draws nearly 60 percent of its water from underground aquifers, extracting at twice the rate that the groundwater can be renewed. The rest comes from rivers and streams.

In the capital, Amman, water is supplied to rooftop tanks once a week; other areas of the country are supplied even less frequently.

According to one estimate, Jordan’s water is enough to sustain two million people, in a country that has close to ten million — a figure swelled over the past decade by 1.5 million refugees, most of them fleeing civil war in neighboring Syria.”

The week before Bateman’s reports appeared Israel signed a deal to double the amount of fresh water it supplies to Jordan.

“The two countries agreed then that Israel would sell 50 million cubic meters of water a year to Jordan, doubling what it already supplies. […]

“This is what good neighbors do, in line with Israel’s policy of connections with other countries,” Foreign Minister Yair Lapid said.

Jordan’s cooperation with Israel on water predates their 1994 peace treaty. Israel is also a hot, dry country, but desalination technology has opened opportunities for selling freshwater.

The additional water Israel will provide will come from the Sea of Galilee, said Shaked Eliahu, a spokeswoman for [Energy minister] Elharrar.”

The BBC has yet to inform its audiences of that new agreement between Israel and Jordan.

Notably, Bateman’s in vogue cross-platform reports a week later about a photoshoot near the Dead Sea by an American photographer (who flew in specially for the event) that was intended “to highlight environmental change” and “draw attention to its dramatically receding shoreline” failed to make any mention of the relevant subject of the chronic water shortage afflicting Jordan as a contributing factor to the reduction in the amount of fresh water reaching the Dead Sea from the Sea of Galilee.

(full article online)

BBC’s Dead Sea reports fail to tell the whole story

On October 18th the BBC Jerusalem bureau’s Tom Bateman produced audio (from 45:23 here) and filmed reports about a photoshoot by American photographer Spencer

camera-uk.org

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OK, I understand the basic concern: The receding level of "Salt" water. Normally, in the Middle East, the problem is: "Desalinization." The nature of the exploitation is the question: What would happen if the Israelis were to start to desalinate massive amounts of saltwater and begin to irrigate the Negev? What paradigm changes if the desert blooms?

(QUESTION)

Since the water flow runs from North to South, what happens if the banks have water lines from the Gulf of Aqaba (saltwater) carrying the saltwater via pumps (powered by water turbines) from South to North, emptying into the Dead Sea?

I'm having trouble understanding the problem.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

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