Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

The shame was the practice of slavery. Let's not forget even the Brits didn't abolish slavery until 1833. It's not like the US, of all the nations in the world as many anti-Southerners like to imply, was the only nation to allow slavery.

The Civil War itself was more about answering the question of State's autonomy vs. the "Union", as President Lincoln clearly stated in his famous letter to Horace Greeley.

Horseshit. It was about Slavery.

Which is why I don't trust anything you say. Comparing all Southerners to the Nazi genocide of 11 million human beings is beyond stupid.

The enslavement and abuse of 4 million people wasn't bad.

heres the diffrence. Most Germans didn't participate in the holocaust and didn't even know it was going on until after the war ended. They are STILL contrite about it.

Billy-Bob and Cleetus still talk about the "War between the States" like that's something to be proud of.
. Billy Bob and Cletus have different reasons to be talking about the past, and what the affect of it all was upon them as a culture that ultimately had become their future. They see it as actually creating the Billy Bob and Cletus effect that is being disrespected by other cultures that exist today. Now after the feds and their intervention in it all, Billy Bob wonders, did they get it wrong therefore causing Billy Bob and Cletus to become the result of their getting it wrong by the way in which they have handled the situation over the years ??? Billy Bob and Cletus says well Hail yeahya they did.. lol.
 
Joke all you want, but at least I'm a step ahead of an antisemitic authoritarian dictatorship supporter.

Right. You are totally cool with AIPAC sending young American servicemen off to die so Israel can play, "God Loves us the Very best." And anyone who questions that is anti-semitic. (Even though the Arabs are just as much "Semites" as the Jews are.)

Guy, you know, you aren't supposed to actually drink the Bong Water, right?
 
Naw... nobody really wants to live in the shitty times of the Founding Slave Rapists. You Libertarians talk a lot of shit, but you keep drinking the GOvernment Water, floridation and all.
It's one thing to call a person an anti-American asshole, but it's another when they prove it all themselves. LOL

Nice straw man. I have no problem with fluoridation, municipal water nor even the FDA. Your misconceptions are only exceeded by your hatred of Jews, your fellow Americans and the US military.
 
Billy Bob and Cletus have different reasons to be talking about the past, and what the affect of it all was upon them as a culture that ultimately had become their future. They see it as actually creating the Billy Bob and Cletus effect that is being disrespected by other cultures that exist today. Now after the feds and their intervention in it all, Billy Bob wonders, did they get it wrong therefore causing Billy Bob and Cletus to become the result of their getting it wrong by the way in which they have handled the situation over the years ??? Billy Bob and Cletus says well Hail yeahya they did.. lol.

Okay, but the thing is, Billy Bob and Cleetus still don't understand what they did wrong.

Here, let me help.

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It's one thing to call a person an anti-American asshole, but it's another when they prove it all themselves. LOL

Nice straw man. I have no problem with fluoridation, municipal water nor even the FDA. Your misconceptions are only exceeded by your hatred of Jews, your fellow Americans and the US military.

Again, you need to stop drinking the Bong Water.

The Founding Slave Rapists saved us from the horror of being Canadians. I think that's a little underwhelming.
 
Joke all you want, but at least I'm a step ahead of an antisemitic authoritarian dictatorship supporter.

Right. You are totally cool with AIPAC sending young American servicemen off to die so Israel can play, "God Loves us the Very best." And anyone who questions that is anti-semitic. (Even though the Arabs are just as much "Semites" as the Jews are.)

Guy, you know, you aren't supposed to actually drink the Bong Water, right?
AIPAC doesn't give orders to US troops, the Commander in Chief does. Are you saying AIPAC tells President Obama what to do? Are you saying President Obama is a Jew-lover?
 
...The Founding Slave Rapists saved us from the horror of being Canadians. I think that's a little underwhelming.
Clearly it's you who are having a problem with drugs or some other problem distorting your grip on reality.
 
It's sad that some people on both sides are still fighting the Civil War, basically this is just another extension of it.
Sad, true, but that's because the central point of the Civil War existed back to Jefferson and Hamilton all the way to today: The right of individuals and States vs. the domination of an all-powerful central government.

The issue of slavery was resolved and corrected in the Constitution, but the battle between Nanny Staters and those who believe in strong individual freedom remains.
. Well after the event of slavery, there are groups or individuals out there, who will work tirelessly to make sure whites never agree or group together to do such a thing again, and so as we all go foward here, then the idea is to keep the whites separated, and the idea will become worse and worse as other groups pile on like we have seen over the years.
 
Well after the event of slavery, there are groups or individuals out there, who will work tirelessly to make sure whites never agree or group together to do such a thing again, and so as we all go foward here, then the idea is to keep the whites separated, and the idea will become worse and worse as other groups pile on like we have seen over the years.
While I tend to agree, I'd also take out the race element (meaning "whites") and replace it with "human beings". It's human nature for people to contest for resources, power and control over their environment.
 
Why should we celebrate traitors to our country ?

It's history. What next? Remove Civil War information from text books because the Confederacy has to be mentioned?

Nope, just write the confederacy for what it was .. a shit stain on American history.

Nothing 'glorious' about it.
. Set aside the need for slave labor as was thought of back in that time period, and then let's look at what type of white culture existed back then, and for which had existed outside of the workings of slavery, plantations, and all that was going on in that area of the time period. Otherwise let's look at the difference between Nazi's and Germans in the same ways maybe...

Now how do you think the white culture (aside from the plantation owners) looked at a people who were pulled out of Africa, put onto plantations as slave labor back then ????? A people who were put there because of their physical attributes, mentality, and vulnerabilities right ???

Is it perceived that the whites were a more acceptable civilized white culture & society at that time period ?? The fear of the unknowns found in the African people was a sad state of affairs in which they (the Africans) were caught up in, and it made whites highly skeptical of the Africans being accepted into their society at large back then, and for years to come afterwards... This caused a rejection of them (the Africans) to be openly accepted by the majority of whites at the time, and it was of no fault of the Africans that this was happening, because they were brought here from a culture that was so very different than the European culture here was at the time ??

It's sad in the way that the two were brought together back in that time period, but that's all history now... It made for a sad situation that had consequences for years and years to come for both sides. Now to be fair, the African Americans if we're established here first back then, would they have also have rejected a people in the same way if the shoe were on the other foot maybe ? For example below :

African Americans are just like anyone else right, where as they are not willing to compromise their culture, ideals, family values, and safety as Americans by allowing for example, a skin head culture to come into their community for a myriad of reasons right ?? Not to say there is a comparison between African Americans and the skin heads, but the perception was the same back then or during slavery time I mean to illustrate maybe... The same thinking would also be found amongst the African Americans as were the whites back then on the matter if the situation was the same I think.. So what if the skin heads wanted to join up with, and infiltrate the black culture, and go with their daughters, and impact their childrens thinking etc. ???

Now what if these skin heads were brought here from another land to be worked as slaves on plantations, and then you as a black person were to see them in the fields working, and you would say to your father " father, why are those people out there in those fields working like that father", and why do you see some of them with chains on their feet father ??? Then your black father would says to you son, "well son you see they came here from a land far far away, and they were sold here as laborers by the other skin heads that occupied their lands". The black son says next... Father, did they do something wrong that they were sold like that, and now they have to be in that situation ???? The black father says, I'm not sure son, but that probably could be the case, so stay away from them ok... I ask would the same rejection be given by the blacks unto them in such a case ? Do they really understand what's wrong with skinhead culture, and would they be willing to work to help them reform or would they just want them dead or sent back if we're freed ??

Was there a huge cultural clash between what the whites knew about these Africans, and what they didn't know about the Africans fully at the time, and for whom had a very strange culture in which had allowed them to be captured by their own people, and then sold into slavery across vast stretches of oceans all over the world ? Was there a fear that Africans weren't living right as a culture, and this was thought of by the whites throughout time because of the situation they were in, and then to have allowed such a thing to take place against them as it were ?? Did this cause a looking down upon or a disrespect to happen because of the terrible things that they had allowed to take place against them as a people back then ??? Did the whites figure that such a thing was not to be allowed to be transferred into the white culture, so the white culture felt it best to reject the Africans at the time, because of the situation that they had gotten themselves into, and couldn't get themselves out of ?? Just trying to understand history, and why things happen is all. It was all a huge misunderstanding on everyone's parts back then, but we sure have come along way from that craziness over time.

I suggest that you read slave narratives such as those posted below. The words you're missing in your premise is 'racist hate.'
American Slave Narratives

The horrors of slavery and the ungodly treatment of captured Africans were about far, far more than misunderstanding. The divide that still exists to this day is testament to that truth. The very fact that blacks have been in this country for more than 400 years and have only been relatively free for 51 years demonstrates that misunderstanding had little to do with it.
 
Taking arms up against the government in an attempt to overthrow . Killing a bunch of soildiers . Ya know, typical traitor stuff .
Your history is off. First, the secessionist states did not attempt to overthrow the Union. They fought a defensive battle from Northern aggression well into the war.

There were no battle deaths at Ft. Sumter. The only deaths (two) were when a mortar exploded during a 100-gun salute. Fort Sumter - American Civil War - HISTORY.com

The first battle deaths of the Civil War were when Union troops attacked Confederates at the Fairfax Court House in Virginia. Battles of the Civil War | Fairfax County, VA
Battle of Fairfax Court House (June 1861) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the map below proves, most Civil War battles were by invading Union troops attacking Southern states.

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Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

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Why should we celebrate traitors to our country ?

Um, because you morons in 2008/2012 elected Obama twice?

-Geaux

far better than the morons who voted for Romney and thought it was a good idea to let sawah bawwacuda anywhere near the white house.

perhaps you should look at the economic numbers now versus what the numbers looked like after baby bush crashed the economy with the same rightwingnutty trickle down garbage you keep trying to sell.

just saying

it's also time for you loons to start understanding that you can't pass personhood laws and appoint justices who are anti equality and anti-women.
 
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far better than the morons who voted for Romney and thought it was a good idea to let sawah bawwacuda anywhere near the white house.

perhaps you should look at the economic numbers now versus what the numbers looked like after baby bush crashed the economy with the same rightwingnutty trickle down garbage you keep trying to sell.

just saying
LOL. Meowwww! Watch those claws, sweetie. You don't want to snag them into something you can't easily pull yourself out from.

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